Marineford Arc discussion (Anime-only)

[FlareKnight]

Well I knew it wasn't looking good for Sabo when he went out like that. We know what kind of guys are on that ship to begin with and Sabo decided that putting up a pirates flag was a good idea. Sure he might only be a kid but still....

I wouldn't be surprised if he turns up alive somewhere and has the major impact of giving Luffy a brother that still exists in this world. If not than it just hits harder how much Luffy has lost to this point .2 brothers going down at different times and not being able to do anything about it.

But on the positive side seems like we're almost through this flashback arc. Has been good to fill in gaps, but I've been ready to get back into the present for some time

[ars89]

Wow got to see Dragon, Ivan, and Kuma when hey were just starting out was a nice treat. Wonder how long Dadan and Ace have been missing. Loved how she came to the rescue and deflected that bullet. Really feel for Sabo. Good planning by him to finally just leave. First i thought he would crash his ship, but not surprised that the CD shot his boat. Hopefully he survives.

[Maxtro]

What a bummer this arc turned out to be.

Ace: "I'll never die!" yeah...

[FlareKnight]

Some progress made in the last episode. Got to see a bit more about what happened to Sabo and if that guy is alive it'd be pretty shocking. Dadan and Ace get back, and the date Ace and Luffy will set sail is determined (their 17th birthdays).

Doesn't seem like this will be much longer besides an episode or so for training and showing Ace and Luffy growing up. Might end it with the day that Ace sets off to sea ahead of Luffy.

[Demonicpoodle]

Originally Posted by Maxtro

Ah, so it is cannon. I definitely had my doubts.

Right now Sabo feels very much like a filler character because he doesn't affect the plot in any way. So far he's just a new friend who was created just to be in a few episodes then is never seen again.

Though if he isn't dead and actually shows up in the "present day" episodes, then I'll change my view of him.

I'm still waiting for him to end a phrase with dattebayo.

Could you name some more of those filler characters please ^^? Oh and what's the plot of One Piece?

503 was fantastic, can't wait for 504.

[Kuroi Hadou]

Originally Posted by Demonicpoodle

Oh and what's the plot of One Piece

Wh-what?

[Kallen4life]

thank heaven this is almost over, we'll get some real action soon

[Sylky]

^ yeah i agree kinda want to see the crew again especially Usopp as hes now fat >.> and needs to slim down a little XD

[Jaieni]

So episode 504,

Spoiler for ep 504:

confirms that Sabo survived the attack by the world noble. He was saved by Dragon. I don't remember it being that explicit in the manga so I wonder if the anime staff took additional liberties.

[karumofin]

Originally Posted by Jaieni

So episode 504,

Spoiler for ep 504:

confirms that Sabo survived the attack by the world noble. He was saved by Dragon. I don't remember it being that explicit in the manga so I wonder if the anime staff took additional liberties.

Spoiler for 504:

Yeah I thought the same. Sabo better have a very good excuse for just disapearing on his borthers like that though...

[MihawkXGP]

Originally Posted by karumofin

Spoiler for 504:

Yeah I thought the same. Sabo better have a very good excuse for just disapearing on his borthers like that though...

Amnesia obviously.

Good final episode to end the flashback.
Next episode will be cool. Looks like WB & Aces funeral next episode

[Undertaker]

Originally Posted by Jaieni

So episode 504,

Spoiler for ep 504:

confirms that Sabo survived the attack by the world noble. He was saved by Dragon. I don't remember it being that explicit in the manga so I wonder if the anime staff took additional liberties.

The scene is in the manga but without specific mention of going to check on Tenryubito ceremony. However the manga did also imply that Zoro's dojo supplied ration for Dragon's crew.

[FlareKnight]

Well definitely making it clear that Sabo was rescued by Dragon. Though considering how seriously injured he was it should be interesting to see him in the present. He'd either have to be disabled in some way or have amnesia to not go after Ace when he saw the paper.

Was fun to see Dadan bawling when getting Ace's message and listening to Luffy's goodbye. They really were like family to her and can imagine the news about Ace will hit her really hard.

Still good that we are getting back to the present and can start moving ahead now.

[ars89]

Wow so Sabo is alive. Nice to see little Zoro for a bit. Liked how Dadan was crying when Ace and Luffy left, she grew on me. Nice little payback to start his journey like that. So he said he wanted a crew of 10, so hopefully we'll b getting a new crew member soon. Enjoyed the flashback but happy we're back to the present. I guess with his statement he's going to go through some serious training.

[PixelCreek]

It'd be cool if Dragon had mind erasing powers. Perhaps there's another reason why they showed Zoro's old village. Dragon could have used a mind erasing power on Sabo and then maybe even used it on Kuina from Zoro's home town and faked her death. Maybe Dragon got Kuina to work from "within" the marines ^^ That'd be so awesome.

[Kallen4life]

well it was SO NICE to see the original happy-go-lucky 17 y.o. Luffy

now ONWARDS TO THE NEW WORLD

[Pwnago]

Wow.. I liked the flash back. They were pretty good, better than most flash backs in other animes in my opinion. But now it's going to be GOOD! Luffy and the Crew are going to New World Woop!

[ronin myael]

Originally Posted by Maxtro

Ah, so it is cannon. I definitely had my doubts.

Right now Sabo feels very much like a filler character because he doesn't affect the plot in any way. So far he's just a new friend who was created just to be in a few episodes then is never seen again.

Though if he isn't dead and actually shows up in the "present day" episodes, then I'll change my view of him.

I'm still waiting for him to end a phrase with dattebayo.

hmmm... if there's anything i learned from oda's writing style is to never take anything for granted. he usually doesn't waste a lot of characters. he often recycles them by finding them new roles to play. and when he introduces a new character or a new idea, there's usually a very good reason for it.

if sabo is really alive, i have two questions. one, why didn't he try to come after ace when he was arrested and sentenced to die? two, would takeuchi junko also voice his older self? i would welcome junko aboard, it would be nice to hear naruto's voice next to luffy's. ichigo's seiyuu will surely return as marco. it would be nice to have the big 3 seiyuu come together in one series. lol

[Watashi no Saki]

Originally Posted by PixelCreek

It'd be cool if Dragon had mind erasing powers. Perhaps there's another reason why they showed Zoro's old village. Dragon could have used a mind erasing power on Sabo and then maybe even used it on Kuina from Zoro's home town and faked her death. Maybe Dragon got Kuina to work from "within" the marines ^^ That'd be so awesome.

Wow that's a nice speculation.

But I still believe that Dragon got the power to control storms. Because of the incident in the Logue town way back then, when Luffy almost got executed and saved by the thunder strike, and the storm helped them to escape the ruckus. People may think it was simply because of miracles or Luffy is loved by the God, but I thought it's possible that it was Dragon's doing. Considering he's the most wanted criminal in the world, I don't think that kind of awesome power is exaggerating.

[karumofin]

I believe that controlling storms is done with an ancient weapon and more over, the same ancient weapon that Roger used to control storms.