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Obelisk ze Tormentor · 2013-12-08, 04:05

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Originally Posted by Rising Dragon

Considering what's been done to the Spiderman franchise lately, can anyone really blame them for preferring Punisher over Spiderman?

Comics or movies?

Also, do they prefer Punisher's overall story or just his character over Spiderman?
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Sorry for being off-topic. To make up for it, let me share a pic of the new & upcoming Master Grade Destiny Impulse Gundam Regenes here

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I love purple ^^

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S.Freedom · 2013-12-08, 13:20

I'm pretty sure RD is referring to the comics. I still shudder at the thought of what One More Day did to spidey's backstory. *shakes head*

monster · 2013-12-08, 13:39

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Originally Posted by Obelisk ze Tormentor

Destiny Impulse Gundam Regenes here

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I love purple ^^

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Royalty indeed.

Washu-Chan · 2013-12-08, 14:42

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Originally Posted by Aquaman OS

Personally I find it rather sad that people prefer a brooding angry berserker over a pacifistic nicer person, but I guess that's why people prefer Batman over Superman, and Punisher over Spiderman too.

Isn't is also because Batman and The Punisher don't have superpowers? Spider-Man (at least the original, Earth-616 incarnation) also doesn't have superpowers.

Kira is kind of like Pre-Crisis Superman:

Just picture Kira, Athrun, and Shinn in the places of Superman, Jimmy, and Aquaman, respectively.

CBredbeard · 2013-12-08, 15:01

^ Admit it. You just wanted to have an excuse to post that picture without it being off-topic.

weirdguy · 2013-12-08, 16:53

I have been wondering, are there anyone else besides me that liked the second half of Destiny? I could careless about how invincible Kira was, and paid more attention to the Destiny Plan. I also didn't mind how Shinn didn't change into a character like how Kamille changed. To me, the way he was represented someone that did what he thought was the correct thing to do. In his case, he thought that the Destiny Plan will change the world for the better, which in a sense it can. Which this leads to the other point of why I liked the second half of the series. It's the question about whether it would have been better to have the Destiny Plan or not.

Soaring Griffin · 2013-12-08, 17:49

I also like Destiny including the second half for what it is. It has its flaws but I find it more misunderstood then anything.

~~DuelGundam2099~~ · 2013-12-08, 20:40

I know this is off topic, but is that a real comic book? If so was Superman under some sort of mind control or something?

Edit: Oh wow, that is a real comic. What happened to Sups?

Anyway, anyone think that Final Plus footage will be edited into the last episode of the remastering?

brightman · 2013-12-08, 22:40

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Originally Posted by DuelGundam2099

Anyway, anyone think that Final Plus footage will be edited into the last episode of the remastering?

The last episode WILL be Final Plus, most likely. Its meant to replace Ep 50 after all.

CBredbeard · 2013-12-08, 23:34

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Originally Posted by DuelGundam2099

Edit: Oh wow, that is a real comic. What happened to Sups?

http://www.superdickery.com/

Nothing more needs to be said on that.

As far as Destiny goes, Gil's full transition into villain was a little too subtle. The full scope of what he was capable of and what he was responsible for wasn't explored very thoroughly. It's hard to tell if he was merely opportunistic or a very shrewd operator manipulating practically everyone. It's also hard to understand why he's fixated on Lacus and Kira.

They seemed to end up fighting him not because of what he wanted to do, but because of what he was willing to do to accomplish it. I think I would have liked it to have been more clear that he was an ends justify the means type, but the way he kept playing everyone made it very hard to see him as a villain right up until the end.

At least, that's my feeling. If I watched it again, maybe it would be more clear.

Rising Dragon · 2013-12-08, 23:52

Actually I think Durandal's biggest issue as far as villainy goes is that there was hardly any foreshadowing to his master plan. His Destiny Plan just comes out of nowhere. It should've been foreshadowed earlier on in the series, like, say, that big dinner he had with the Minerva crew.

monster · 2013-12-09, 00:01

I think it was foreshadowed back when he had the flashback of talking with Rau.

CBredbeard · 2013-12-09, 00:25

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Originally Posted by Rising Dragon

Actually I think Durandal's biggest issue as far as villainy goes is that there was hardly any foreshadowing to his master plan. His Destiny Plan just comes out of nowhere. It should've been foreshadowed earlier on in the series, like, say, that big dinner he had with the Minerva crew.

The Destiny Plan was not his master plan. Laying the ground work so he could implement it, that is the master plan. That's where there is a problem with his build up as a villain. We don't even know if he did have a master plan or if he just took advantage of the situation and decided what he believed to be the best course of action.

I mean, I'm sure there'd be lots of people that would be curious as to what their genes have to say about them. He could have easily promoted it on a voluntary, cultural basis, and allowed it's merit to speak for itself, but no, first chance he got, he held a gun to the world's head and declared that THIS is what we're going to do or else. And that felt like it came out of nowhere.

monster · 2013-12-09, 01:14

I guess it should've been obvious, but after watching this latest episode, I just realized that Legend really is fast. It's about as fast as Destiny, and both the Legend and the Destiny are much faster than the Gouf.

Then there is the Impulse being faster than the Murasame and probably almost as fast, if not as fast, as the Freedom.

With such disparity in speed alone, it's no wonder the mass-produced mobile suits can suffer major losses even with superior numbers.

Deadpool2000 · 2013-12-09, 02:41

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Originally Posted by Washu-Chan

Would any of you like a glass of tears courtesy of the YT commentators?

Why are they crying?

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Originally Posted by Rising Dragon

Actually I think Durandal's biggest issue as far as villainy goes is that there was hardly any foreshadowing to his master plan. His Destiny Plan just comes out of nowhere. It should've been foreshadowed earlier on in the series, like, say, that big dinner he had with the Minerva crew.

Funny, my problem is the exact opposite: I always thought Durandal being a villain was TOO obvious from the very beginning.

I feel this may be a function of expecting less from your anime...

CBredbeard · 2013-12-09, 03:48

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Funny, my problem is the exact opposite: I always thought Durandal being a villain was TOO obvious from the very beginning.

I feel this may be a function of expecting less from your anime...

Rather it's expecting more. I didn't say I was surprised that he ended up being a villain. That basically no one in the series had any idea whatsoever what he was up to is the issue I have. Even Lacus only had one excerpt from a journal to peg him as a bad guy and that only alluded to the Destiny Plan, which in of itself was merely a theory on social engineering.

Was it really his plan all along to destroy the world in order to save it? Was he manipulating basically everything and everyone from the start including the Gundam Jacks at the armory?

Rising Dragon · 2013-12-09, 03:52

That wasn't what I was saying. I didn't say that Durandal's villainy was too subtle, I'm just saying that his plan--the Destiny Plan--came out of left field with its suddenness. It got very little foreshadowing.

weirdguy · 2013-12-09, 16:24

That shouldn't be that big of an issue since it was foreshadowed a few times already. Even if it was sudden, the message that Durandul was trying to get across was pretty clear. Well, in my opinion it is.

Rising Dragon · 2013-12-09, 16:32

It was foreshadowed maybe ONCE.

Skye629 · 2013-12-09, 16:36

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Originally Posted by Rising Dragon

It was foreshadowed maybe ONCE.

Which was that Durandal used to work with the Genetics/science division or whatever.......

Even that is an extremely vague indication of what he was planning.....

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Rising Dragon Goat Herder Author Join Date: Jun 2008 Age: 36	Actually I think Durandal's biggest issue as far as villainy goes is that there was hardly any foreshadowing to his master plan. His Destiny Plan just comes out of nowhere. It should've been foreshadowed earlier on in the series, like, say, that big dinner he had with the Minerva crew. __________________

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Rising Dragon Goat Herder Author Join Date: Jun 2008 Age: 36	That wasn't what I was saying. I didn't say that Durandal's villainy was too subtle, I'm just saying that his plan--the Destiny Plan--came out of left field with its suddenness. It got very little foreshadowing. __________________

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Rising Dragon Goat Herder Author Join Date: Jun 2008 Age: 36	It was foreshadowed maybe ONCE. __________________

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S.Freedom Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: On the edge of insanity Age: 44	I'm pretty sure RD is referring to the comics. I still shudder at the thought of what One More Day did to spidey's backstory. shakes head

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CBredbeard Banned Join Date: Jul 2013	^ Admit it. You just wanted to have an excuse to post that picture without it being off-topic.

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weirdguy Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2013	I have been wondering, are there anyone else besides me that liked the second half of Destiny? I could careless about how invincible Kira was, and paid more attention to the Destiny Plan. I also didn't mind how Shinn didn't change into a character like how Kamille changed. To me, the way he was represented someone that did what he thought was the correct thing to do. In his case, he thought that the Destiny Plan will change the world for the better, which in a sense it can. Which this leads to the other point of why I liked the second half of the series. It's the question about whether it would have been better to have the Destiny Plan or not.

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Soaring Griffin Member Join Date: Dec 2009	I also like Destiny including the second half for what it is. It has its flaws but I find it more misunderstood then anything.

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~~DuelGundam2099~~ Disabled By Request Join Date: Feb 2013	I know this is off topic, but is that a real comic book? If so was Superman under some sort of mind control or something? Edit: Oh wow, that is a real comic. What happened to Sups? Anyway, anyone think that Final Plus footage will be edited into the last episode of the remastering?

2013-12-09, 00:01	Link #10132
monster Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2005	I think it was foreshadowed back when he had the flashback of talking with Rau.

2013-12-09, 01:14	Link #10134
monster Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2005	I guess it should've been obvious, but after watching this latest episode, I just realized that Legend really is fast. It's about as fast as Destiny, and both the Legend and the Destiny are much faster than the Gouf. Then there is the Impulse being faster than the Murasame and probably almost as fast, if not as fast, as the Freedom. With such disparity in speed alone, it's no wonder the mass-produced mobile suits can suffer major losses even with superior numbers.

2013-12-09, 16:24	Link #10138
weirdguy Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2013	That shouldn't be that big of an issue since it was foreshadowed a few times already. Even if it was sudden, the message that Durandul was trying to get across was pretty clear. Well, in my opinion it is.