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Thess · 2014-08-13, 20:45

Got it. But I don't really think he's making a 'sacrifice' by following his beliefs and intuition to stay alive away from a clear hostile and abusive enviroment.

Archon_Wing · 2014-08-13, 22:16

That may be part of it, but it'd be hard to deny he'd be putting a lot on the line when he's doing what he feels is right.

Thess · 2014-08-15, 09:12

Name: Slaine Troyard.
Height: 170 cm.
Age: 16 years old.
Birthrate: January 11th.
Blood Type: A.

Queen of Corners · 2014-08-21, 17:30

I'm not sure if I've seen anyone mention it before, so I've gotta ask. Am I the only person who finds Slaine looking absolutely wicked during his first scene in the opening? That smile... that wicked, wicked smile.

I love it.

Thess · 2014-08-21, 20:31

He's smiling?

He looks pretty neutral and stressed.

Queen of Corners · 2014-08-22, 03:21

Watched again because of a nagging doubt and you're right. He's not smiling.

Still, he looks wicked, maybe because of the light or something, but it's only a blink and miss it moment. The rest... well, I wouldn't really say he's neutral or anything, but stressed, definitely.

Thess · 2014-08-22, 06:07

He looks just pretty with the lighting. He's in space, so there's only artificial light in his side of the opening until he's on Earth. Yeah, he's obviously stressed.

novalysis · 2014-08-30, 14:03

Seeing the vitrol against Slaine in some places, and after seeing female Slaine pictures, I shudder to imagine the cries of misogyny that would have rang out had Slaine been female in Aldonah, but underwent precisely the same events and took the same reactions.

Thess · 2014-08-30, 14:11

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Originally Posted by novalysis

Seeing the vitrol against Slaine in some places, and after seeing female Slaine pictures, I shudder to imagine the cries of misogyny that would have rang out had Slaine been female in Aldonah, but underwent precisely the same events and took the same reactions.

Slaine's the show more popular character. The vitriol is from a loud minority.

He's also now getting his very own "what if" CD drama.

Irenesharda · 2014-09-07, 23:15

You know, I would like to thank TVTropes for introducing me to this word: deuteragonist.

I had just continued calling Slaine the co-MC or co-protagonist, not knowing that there was actually a word already for that. Silly me.

So, from now on, I will try to call Inaho the protagonist, Slaine is the deuteragonist, and Asseylum is the tritagonist. Saazbaum stays the antagonist.

mechalord · 2014-09-08, 02:05

I smell he could be the main focus for season 2. He's "mysterious."

I wouldn't be surprised if he's an original Martian or time traveler.

Slaine's father may have just been the scientist who found his stasis pod.

Thess · 2014-09-08, 02:30

I wonder if we'll ever get a flashback of the mysterious Doctor Troyard.

Kazu-kun · 2014-09-08, 04:47

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Originally Posted by Irenesharda

I will try to call Inaho the protagonist, Slaine is the deuteragonist,

At this point in the story you can't tell who is the protagonist and who is the deutoragonist though. This will be more clear in the second season.

Also there are stories starring two protagonists instead of a protagonist and deutoragonist. They're somewhat uncommon but they do exist.

Irenesharda · 2014-09-08, 09:58

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Originally Posted by Kazu-kun

At this point in the story you can't tell who is the protagonist and who is the deutoragonist though. This will be more clear in the second season.

Also there are stories starring two protagonists instead of a protagonist and deutoragonist. They're somewhat uncommon but they do exist.

That's the thing, the deuteragonist is just as important as the protagonist, he's pretty much the 2nd protagonist. Since Inaho is making the big push against Vers, he's the protagonist. Slaine's events are just as important and so are Asseylum's, so they get deuteragonist and tritagonist status.

You could make the push that Slaine could be the protagonist since he's the the story that we actually see first and in is the main character that starts it off. And so that might just be the case. But, I'll just leave it as is.

Kazu-kun · 2014-09-08, 11:20

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Originally Posted by Irenesharda

That's the thing, the deuteragonist is just as important as the protagonist, he's pretty much the 2nd protagonist.

The deuteragonist is the second in importance. If they were equal, you wouldn't be able to tell which one is the protagonist. If they both have equal importance, which almost never happens, both are protagonists. Although I say "importance" but it's really more about focus.

You can tell who is the protagonist because the events the story focuses on revolve around that person. So far in this series the protagonist is indeed Inaho. It doesn't matter if all the battles and scenes he was involved in were a bit irrelevant plot-wise, that was definitely what the series centered on so far. The situations Slaine got involved with, while arguably more important plot-wise, were more in the background. That might change in the second half when the actual plot kicks in though.

Irenesharda · 2014-09-08, 11:57

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Originally Posted by Kazu-kun

No, the deuteragonist is the second in importance. If they were equal, you wouldn't be able to tell which one is the protagonist. If they both have equal importance, which almost never happens, both are protagonists. Although I say "importance" but it's really more about focus.

You can tell who is the protagonist because the events the story focuses on revolve around that person. So far in this series the protagonist is indeed Inaho. It doesn't matter if all the battles and scenes he was involved in were a bit irrelevant plot-wise, that was definitely what the series centered on so far. The situations Slaine got involved with, while arguably more important plot-wise, were more in the background. That might change in the second half when the actual plot kicks in though.

I'm just going with definition I was given, and that a deuteragonist is just as important and their story and events that surround them are just as important as the protagonist. However, the story's already been set up to have several protagonists, but instead of calling them all protagonists, you just number them as they come. The first one the story revolves around in the protagonist. The second person the story revolves around in the deuteragonist, and the third person is the tritagoist. It's not a ranking, and they can probably be interchangeable, since all of them have equal importance to the story. It's different from a supporting protagonist, which is a main character that's very important, but yet, he doesn't influence the main plot as much as the main protagonist. And Slaine's definitely more than a supporting protagonist.

Kazu-kun · 2014-09-08, 11:59

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Originally Posted by Irenesharda

The second person the story revolves around in the deuteragonist.

Second in the sense of attention and importance, not in the sense of chronological order or something like that.

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Originally Posted by Irenesharda

It's not a ranking, and they can probably be interchangeable

It is a ranking, and is definitely not interchangeable unless the story changes its center of attention, or more accurately, reveals its actual center of attention to be elsewhere than where it was at first.

Thess · 2014-09-09, 00:58

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Originally Posted by Irenesharda

The first one the story revolves around in the protagonist.

By that definition, it's Asseylum. The story revolves around her, including Inaho and Slaine characters.

Konja9 · 2014-09-20, 10:27

I really like the character of Slaine and his loyalty to the princess. I wonder what the future holds for this character.

I have a question, do you know when is the birthday of Slaine?

Death Usagi · 2014-09-20, 12:04

Well Slaine just became the most asshole of the series now...

2014-08-13, 20:45	Link #61
Thess Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2010	Got it. But I don't really think he's making a 'sacrifice' by following his beliefs and intuition to stay alive away from a clear hostile and abusive enviroment. __________________ *"Who* would understand you after I die? Who else would march forward by your side?"**

2014-08-15, 09:12	Link #63
Thess Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2010	Name: Slaine Troyard. Height: 170 cm. Age: 16 years old. Birthrate: January 11th. Blood Type: A. __________________ *"Who* would understand you after I die? Who else would march forward by your side?"**

2014-08-21, 20:31	Link #65
Thess Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2010	He's smiling? He looks pretty neutral and stressed. __________________ *"Who* would understand you after I die? Who else would march forward by your side?"**

2014-08-22, 06:07	Link #67
Thess Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2010	He looks just pretty with the lighting. He's in space, so there's only artificial light in his side of the opening until he's on Earth. Yeah, he's obviously stressed. __________________ *"Who* would understand you after I die? Who else would march forward by your side?"**

2014-09-07, 23:15	Link #70
Irenesharda Senior Member Join Date: May 2013 Location: Chicago	You know, I would like to thank TVTropes for introducing me to this word: deuteragonist. I had just continued calling Slaine the co-MC or co-protagonist, not knowing that there was actually a word already for that. Silly me. So, from now on, I will try to call Inaho the protagonist, Slaine is the deuteragonist, and Asseylum is the tritagonist. Saazbaum stays the antagonist. __________________ "Someone who cannot forgive lies or secrets, will never trust another." - Major Kyosuke Hyobu

2014-08-21, 17:30	Link #64
Queen of Corners Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Half way to the moon	I'm not sure if I've seen anyone mention it before, so I've gotta ask. Am I the only person who finds Slaine looking absolutely wicked during his first scene in the opening? That smile... that wicked, wicked smile. I love it.

2014-08-22, 03:21	Link #66
Queen of Corners Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Half way to the moon	Watched again because of a nagging doubt and you're right. He's not smiling. Still, he looks wicked, maybe because of the light or something, but it's only a blink and miss it moment. The rest... well, I wouldn't really say he's neutral or anything, but stressed, definitely.

2014-08-30, 14:03	Link #68
novalysis Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2011	Seeing the vitrol against Slaine in some places, and after seeing female Slaine pictures, I shudder to imagine the cries of misogyny that would have rang out had Slaine been female in Aldonah, but underwent precisely the same events and took the same reactions.

2014-09-08, 02:05	Link #71
mechalord Deploying Funnel Cakes Join Date: Jan 2008	I smell he could be the main focus for season 2. He's "mysterious." I wouldn't be surprised if he's an original Martian or time traveler. Slaine's father may have just been the scientist who found his stasis pod.

2014-09-08, 02:30	Link #72
Thess Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2010	I wonder if we'll ever get a flashback of the mysterious Doctor Troyard. __________________ *"Who* would understand you after I die? Who else would march forward by your side?"**

2014-09-20, 10:27	Link #79
Konja9 Senior Member Join Date: May 2014	I really like the character of Slaine and his loyalty to the princess. I wonder what the future holds for this character. I have a question, do you know when is the birthday of Slaine?

2014-09-20, 12:04	Link #80
Death Usagi Banned Join Date: Jan 2014 Age: 28	Well Slaine just became the most asshole of the series now...