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molitar · 2013-12-19, 15:29

I was expecting to find out what was special about Mirai and Akihito as his mother promised to tell him. But instead we did not find out.

Izumi, I'm glad to see she is gone as could she have dreamed up anything more evil than what she did to them? All she did was nearly destroyed the world and it all ended back the way it originally had end the end except the destroyed beliefs and relations.

She could never face Akihito or her brother again with them knowing that she was out to kill Akihito and Mirai both in the end.

EnOfEridu · 2013-12-19, 17:24

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Originally Posted by molitar

I was expecting to find out what was special about Mirai and Akihito as his mother promised to tell him. But instead we did not find out.

I'm sure that will be the basis for a second season and/or an OVA. Or maybe is just a trick to boost the LN sales. (I started reading the translation and it's kinda nice)

Kaoru Chujo · 2013-12-19, 17:35

I spent some time defending this show. And I did enjoy it, particularly the two leads. But looking at it now that it's over, I can't help thinking the show was quite a mess. Not completely logical, with odd amounts of time devoted to its various elements, and with relationships not particularly well portrayed.

Marcus H. · 2013-12-19, 19:18

^ It's a lesson for KyoAni to get someone who can chuck a nice story within a short period ala Kamachi. If the author continues to give this sluggish pace to his story, I doubt that his story would be even more intact than it was today.

rulfo · 2013-12-19, 21:00

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Originally Posted by Marcus H.

^ Kyoukai no Tomogara?

It would be nice if the OVA supported the speculation that Mirai is no longer just a human/spirit hunter but a Youmu in the end conjured by Aki/KnK.

I feel that this would've been great if they hadn't showed Mirai so quickly during the end. I'm not saying that they should have killed her permanently but the mental whiplash I got just annoys me.

Triple_R · 2013-12-19, 23:58

I went in expecting a fairly generic climax where the good guys win definitively and most/all loose ends are tied up.

Well, I guess we did kinda get that, but with two odd twists...

1) The whole pointless "Mirai disappears, seems to be dead, then miraculously returns for no apparent reason" bit.

2) The fact that Akihito absorbed Beyond the Boundary back into himself.

Both of those were surprises to me, but largely unpleasant ones. When you take them together, it feels like nothing of consequence happened in the anime, other than some relationship development for Akihito and Mirai. While that relationship was nice, it's undermined by a bit too much forced drama. This ending would have been better if it had just played things more straightforward and not bothered with the two twists above (or at least not the first one). It turned something that could have been emotionally effective into a caricature of itself.

The show entertained me at times, annoyed me at times, and was often a pleasing visual spectacle (and this final episode certainly delivers on that level). But ultimately, I feel like it's a very forgettable work that's undermined by not having the guts to do anything truly bold, and/or not having the focus and internal logic necessary to have a good tight plot.

In many ways, Kyoukai no Kanata is like a microcosm of much of modern anime - Flash and dash and popular set-pieces and heavy emotionality over sensible plot development and even a modicum of realism.

I don't hate this anime or its ending, but it is a bit disappointing.

molitar · 2013-12-20, 00:15

It was a strange ending. Maybe if we had found out what was special about Mirai but from the latter hints and the way they talked maybe a part of the beyond was in her also so it took time but her blood came back together to resurrect her. That is about the only thing I can think of to explain her re-appearing without any explanation from the mother.

The one that was trying to destroy the world kept mentioning Mirai so I expect that she probably housed a small part of it in her too. Akihito contained the core and she probably contained part of the other.

VTHokiePride · 2013-12-20, 00:46

Just watched the final episode? Is this all the material? We still don't know why the Cursed Blood clan is special, the Society of Spirit World Warriors, and now 2 of the strongest characters have youmu inside of them.

Marcus H. · 2013-12-20, 03:26

^ Nakulas (the most known active translator) said that this anime series covered only 2/3 of the original light novel's first volume and the rest is all anime-original.

EnOfEridu · 2013-12-20, 03:39

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Originally Posted by Marcus H.

^ Nakulas (the most known active translator) said that this anime series covered only 2/3 of the original light novel's first volume and the rest is all anime-original.

I wonder why. I think this ending is a means to preserve the status quo and allow another season, but it would be justified if the source material is not available in full. But who knows.

I started Nakulas translation Yesterday, and it's very enjoyable. The anime seems to follow the novel very closely.

~~Pocari_Sweat~~ · 2013-12-20, 04:11

What I thought I would get:

Spoiler for Video:

What I actually got:

Spoiler for Video:

Such a shame...

RobotCat · 2013-12-20, 04:36

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Originally Posted by ZodiacBeast

If there is I would seriously want to read it. Hope that it starts up again or somebody else picks it up.

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Originally Posted by EnOfEridu

I wonder why. I think this ending is a means to preserve the status quo and allow another season, but it would be justified if the source material is not available in full. But who knows.

I started Nakulas translation Yesterday, and it's very enjoyable. The anime seems to follow the novel very closely.

Spoiler for Comparison to the Novel:

jeroz · 2013-12-20, 04:40

The big question is, is the original LN any good anyway?

RobotCat · 2013-12-20, 04:43

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Originally Posted by jeroz

The big question is, is the original LN any good anyway?

Spoiler for Comparison to the Novel:

MartianMage · 2013-12-20, 05:47

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Originally Posted by Pocari_Sweat

What I actually got:

Spoiler for Video:

Such a shame...

I got a few good laughs from this...

MeisterBabylon · 2013-12-20, 10:22

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Originally Posted by Kazu-kun

Does that mean she's inside Akihito?

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Originally Posted by ZodiacBeast

Wow. That would be quite the (awkward) twist.

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Originally Posted by EnOfEridu

That would be really unpleasant, won't it?

Exactly.

My theory: As a Kyoukai no Tomogara, she's is but a manifestation of Kyoukai no Kanata created from the blood left inside Akihito. For all intents and purposes, she is Mirai, as much as Shana is Shana from before and after she became a Flame Haze.

And of course inextricably ties Akihito and Mirai together, forever. And you can spin it any way you wish.

Fuyukai desu.

MgMaster · 2013-12-20, 10:58

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Originally Posted by Pocari_Sweat

What I thought I would get:

Spoiler for Video:

What I actually got:

Spoiler for Video:

Such a shame...

Watching that video is probably the sole reason why watching KnK wasn't a complete waste of time.

ZodiacBeast · 2013-12-20, 11:49

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Originally Posted by Pocari_Sweat

What I thought I would get:

Spoiler for Video:

What I actually got:

Spoiler for Video:

Such a shame...

"WHAT A SOCIAL MISFIT HAHAHA"

Oh god, thank you. This would have worked if it were a comedy, but no, it just had to be a serious work.

bastek66 · 2013-12-20, 19:45

Crossover

orion · 2013-12-20, 21:07

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Originally Posted by MeisterBabylon

Exactly.

My theory: As a Kyoukai no Tomogara, she's is but a manifestation of Kyoukai no Kanata created from the blood left inside Akihito. For all intents and purposes, she is Mirai, as much as Shana is Shana from before and after she became a Flame Haze.

And of course inextricably ties Akihito and Mirai together, forever. And you can spin it any way you wish.

Fuyukai desu.

Or...one could just accept that Mirai came back to life, not as a demon but as a human. She is the "light" to Aki's "dark". He said it himself.

Why not accept a happy ending for what it is? It'll bring them more money and open up for more sequels.

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molitar Senior Member Join Date: May 2004	I was expecting to find out what was special about Mirai and Akihito as his mother promised to tell him. But instead we did not find out. Izumi, I'm glad to see she is gone as could she have dreamed up anything more evil than what she did to them? All she did was nearly destroyed the world and it all ended back the way it originally had end the end except the destroyed beliefs and relations. She could never face Akihito or her brother again with them knowing that she was out to kill Akihito and Mirai both in the end.

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molitar Senior Member Join Date: May 2004	It was a strange ending. Maybe if we had found out what was special about Mirai but from the latter hints and the way they talked maybe a part of the beyond was in her also so it took time but her blood came back together to resurrect her. That is about the only thing I can think of to explain her re-appearing without any explanation from the mother. The one that was trying to destroy the world kept mentioning Mirai so I expect that she probably housed a small part of it in her too. Akihito contained the core and she probably contained part of the other.

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~~Pocari_Sweat~~ <em style="color:#808080;">Disabled By Request</em> Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Australia	What I thought I would get: Spoiler for Video: YouTube https://youtu.be/aK1fLm4VrDA Sorry; dynamic content not loaded. Reload? What I actually got: Spoiler for Video: YouTube https://youtu.be/I6cyKZZMFE0 Sorry; dynamic content not loaded. Reload? Such a shame...

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