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Better is not the word to define this, it's rather wicer and different. Recyling the events will eventually make you realize everything, there'r people who don't want anyone to be their friend/beloved as they don't want to feel the pain of loosing(And that is because they've experienced it numberous times or felt them really graving, as they'r living in solitude). Humans live is just normally too short to realize this as there's not enaught such events. Quote:
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2008-09-17, 18:48 | Link #2723 | |
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Even if the event renews, it's still slightly different in some way and hence it's a new experience which provides you with wisdom. Wisdom is knowing about events and facts, it doesn't nescessarily have to involve something certain. And what she has been doing, with the given information at the moment, she hasn't made any stupid act twice or so that concerns the geass. But then again, there's no universal definition for wisdom nor wice.
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2008-09-17, 18:54 | Link #2724 | |||
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And again, this has more to do with personality than it does with immortality. You can also look at it from this perspective. A child that is born into the world and loses its relatives over time knows that, eventually, it will out live everyone who helped raise them. Should they then shun all the people older then them knowing that they will all die? As I've been saying, this sounds like an excuse. Quote:
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If you've never read about Kafka or Metamorphosis, I suggest you do. By comparison to Kafka, C.C.'s existence has been pretty damn good. |
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2008-09-17, 19:02 | Link #2725 |
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The story portrays "immortality" a curse rather than a "blessing." The Nun and CC wanted to rid themselves of immortality. As people (probably) under 50, we have no basis to even debate on the subject about whether or not "immortality" is a blessing or a curse. It's like arguing against a guy who got bitten by a poisonous snake about whether or not the snake was poisonous.
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2008-09-17, 19:04 | Link #2726 | |||
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Ok, from your point of view. That's fine, but I do not agree because her life could have been sunshine and roses and she could still say the same thing because she simply got bored of living with sunshine and roses. |
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2008-09-17, 19:26 | Link #2729 | ||
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Humans long-term memory is infinite. And considering that her cells won't die she should have perfect memory. Yet this is not the case which is a paradox in this case. aside from that she remembers more events, as a % of her experiences than a normal person. Ofcourse a younger person can be wicer than older one in certain areas. But it's rather hard to say which judgement was right, given that each entity has their own preferenses. By experiencing something you learn something. You learn what happpened to you or to somebody at that exact time, and you'r able to share that knowledge/information. But well, I agree that judgement is part of being wice. Then again, there's no univeral definition for the term "wice" Quote:
But then again, I would personally be friends with you, as you seem to share some interrests with me, such as arguing over stuff like this which I like, and yet I haven't smirked nor smiled even once.
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2008-09-18, 05:04 | Link #2731 |
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Eh. Carpe diem. Who cares if people and nations are eventually gonna die? Just enjoy what you have, while it lasts.
A lot of people live without worrying about stuff like "purpose" or the eventual death of their loved ones. Just get up, earn a living, eat, watch TV... Whether you do it for 60 years or 600, what's the difference? Sure, it'd be a pain to be alone in an unchanging world. But that's not CC's position. She's in a big world. By the time she'd be done exploring it all, it'd have changed and be ripe for another tour. Books are no doubt being published faster than a single person can read them. And there's a wide variety of other hobbies she could pick up. I'd understand her being depressed from time to time. But all the time? No. |
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C.C is a strong and adventurous. She has to in a way. It's not saying she's not depressed all the time. But she has never been truly happy either. During this long journey.. she just want some "real" love and she's never really had it. Living for 600 years without truly smiling is really painful. It is stated in Turn 15... she wanted to die already. If she's alright with her current life? Why would she actually decided to die? Until a certain someone sorta made her feel that's she's important.. she felt that spark that she needed to live just a bit more. Like I said everyone has different opinion on how they see life. We wouldn't REALLY REALLY know unless we're really C.C and living for 600 years.
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2008-09-18, 05:28 | Link #2733 | |
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2008-09-18, 06:30 | Link #2734 | |
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It reminds me the conversations about lelouch when some people decided that "he has to act like that", but we are not lelouch. Pointless debate. |
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2008-09-18, 07:13 | Link #2735 | |
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All I'm saying is, there's no particular reason to pity CC just because she's immortal. Just like everyone, she had her chance to be happy, and her chances to be unhappy. There's myriad of things she could do to make herself think "Eh, it's ok if I die later rather than today". Grief? A lot of people experience grief. Very few, in fact, never get to experience it in their lives. And then we heal. Loneliness? Hers is largely self-inflicted. And it's not like she's really alone. Tiredness? We've more than doubled our life expectancy since the stone age. Anyone feels we live too long? And it's not like she suffers any of the various disabilities that come with age. And if she wants to get involved in causes - well, what stops her? Nothing. In fact, she has gotten involved at least twice, that we know of. Sure, very few causes will last all her life. So what? You can find another five causes on every street corner. If she gets tired, she can change. |
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But well, it could be that she really wants to end the cycle, maybe after Lelouch is about to pass away or something, in spite of that?
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If she indeed didn't want to grow close with anyone because of the pain and sadness, she wouldn't want get close to Lelouch, but sometimes things happen even if you don't want it. (Which seems to have happened to her (maybe mao, and then lelouch) And assuming that she has never really experienced real/pure love, and she would be afraid of growing close with somebody as friends not as a lovers, the case is slightly different here as the experience itself is new for her. If we assume that she's to loose her code, she would no longer posses immortality and hence, she would no longer pursue death, the "desire" for solitude in this case is caused by the immortality, not by her nature, atleast I see it so. In this case the "problem" would dissappear.
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