2008-02-10, 00:36 | Link #201 | |
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In the Jimbei fight, Nami should definitly take part. That is if Jimbei fights. I always kind of wanted him to be something of a gentle giant, or more precisely he is tired of his former days of violence and wants to relax in his old age. Whatever, it'll be fun. But, I have to agree Sanji and Zoro need to beat a Shichibukai. They will not have "world" respect until they defeat a Shichibukai. |
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Actually, we don't know if Jimbei (meaning whale-shark I believe) really is a fishman. We have to wait and actually see what he looks like before we can see what species he is. Although, I do find it hard to believe that Arlong would serve a captain that is not of his same species. He does hate humans after all. We also don't know that Nami has a past with Jimbei, but I can see how you would want her to fight him considering her past history with Arlong and the fishman species.
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2008-02-10, 01:33 | Link #204 | |
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I guess I want, more than anything else, a villian you can hate. Like Crocodile or Enel. You can not help but love to hate these bastards. They look down on their broken victims laughing maniacally. |
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2008-02-10, 09:54 | Link #205 | |
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One interesting thing to note is that Donflamingo's ideologies directly oppose those of Blackbeard's as well. I can definitely see some friction between these characters. I wonder what would happen if Donflamingo tried to provoke Blackbeard into a fight?
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Actually, if they were fighting on the sea, I could see DonFlamingo winning easily by simply forcing Blackbeard to walk into the sea. Then again, this is all assumption, we do not actually know much about Blackbeard's powers let alone DonFlamingo's. So, it is too hard to say right now. |
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Now that Gecko Moria's fight is over in Thriller Bark, I wanted to know what you people think of him. Do you all feel that he lived up to his warlord status? Were you all pleased with his fight? Did you all like him as a character? I'm interested in reading your opinions.
I personally feel that he did live up to his warlord status. He has a former bounty of 320 million, and he definitely showed why he was able to accumulate such a big bounty. His shadow fruit ability showed just how dangerous he could potentially be. He is able to revitalize corpses by extracting the shadows of his opponents and placing them into the said corpses. If his shadowless victims are exposed to sunlight, they are consequently disintegrated resulting in their deaths. The ability to switch positions with his doppleganger shadow at any time allows for good defense and trickery on his behalf. The doppleganger is also good for using sneak attacks when Moria's opponents are caught off guard. Finally, his shadows asgard technique exponentially increases his physical strength to the point of surpassing even Oz's physical strength. Moria splitting thriller bark in half with one punch exemplifies this feat of strength. All of the above abilities deemed him worthy of being a warlord in my opinion. Moria's fight was really well done and unique in my opinion. One could argue that it wasn't as epic as Crocodile's battle, but it was definitely special and unprecedented. This is the first time we ever got to see a team battle against the main villain. It was a collaborative effort from the strawhats against Moria using Oz as his fighting weapon. We got to see many great new and innovative techniques from the strawhats working together and just how disastrous Moria's devil fruit ability can be when used to awaken a monstrous fighting machine. Luffy using a combination of Gear 2 and 3 was also a spectacular finish against Moria. As a character, I really do like Moria. His design is vastly different from the other characters in this series. He doesn't even look human; he looks more like a demon which does complement his nightmare theme. It's hard for me to say if I like him better than Crocodile. I do like Kuma better than him (you can probably tell by my name ) and I have a feeling that I am also going to like the other warlords more than him. I am not trying to downgrade Moria, I just feel that the other warlords are going to be more promising for me based on their personalities and significance to come. They also do seem to be more intimidating I feel.
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Couldn't agree with you more. Moria was a great secondary villian. He had a solid dream, similiar in fact to Luffy's, had a semi-tragic background, some good if simple henchman, and a cute ghost-controlling girl named Perona . As you said, he had a great design and a great setting to work with his design, there were several interesting designs actually and the boat 'Thriller Bark' was quite fun ("Its and old man with a large wound" is still the phrase that I use now to describe all zombies ). And of course the fights were suitably epic (OZD was and is cool). All in all a great introduction to the "New World".
...Oh yeah, and Brooke. How can you go wrong with a sword-weilding afro-wearing rude crude skeletal dude. Added to that he had one of the best "Manly Emotions" backstory since Montblanc Norland and Calgara's vow to meet each other again that was finally fullfilled after 400 years. Truly great emotional stuff here. Spoiler for Spoilers for one of the Movies:
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Sorry for taking so long to respond back to your spoiler James3wk. It's been a while since I've seen that movie, so I thank you for providing an abstract for the villain in this movie. Yes, I absolutely do agree with you that Moria and this villain seem to be remarkably similar for the reasons you stated.
Now, there is one thing that I would like to discuss regarding Mihawk. Apparently from one of those SBS data books, it is stated that Mihawk can actually cut through elements. What I am wondering is, if Mihawk is to cut a logia user, would he just cut right through the element or would he actually hurt the person? The only way I could see him hurting the logia user is if his sword is made out of seastone. This greatly intrigues me because I think it would be rather silly for Mihawk, a person of such a high stature in the one piece universe, to not be able to match up against logia users.
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Now for your question, I do not know the definite answer, then again only Oda does right now, but here is my interpretation of Mihawk's and Zoro's abilities. In regards to Mihawk's ability to cut elements, let us look at Zoro and his evolution with his sword(s). To cut an element goes back to Zoro's training. Zoro's sensei esplained that the greatest swordsman can cut through anything and nothing. Zoro proved this theory during the Alabasta Arc by being able to cut through rock (and steel) while not being able to cut through a palm leaf. He descibed it as hearing the 'breath' of the world around him. It is a very metaphysical concept, but in many respects, it could be said that Zoro became 'one' with the universe, or at least gained a higher understanding of the universe. As fans have noticed, before the Mr. 1 fight, all of his attacks had animal names (even a demon can be considered an animal), but after the Mr. 1 fight, his attacks gained spirtual names (His cannon techniques as well as his 'Asura' techniques as seen in the fight with Kaku are all based around spiritual principles etc.). Zoro can cut through steel and iron, next is presumably diamond or something a little below that. After he learns to cut through the hardest materials, it is possible that he will be able to learn how to cut through immaterial substances. It is a very zen-ish philosophy mixed in with Zoro's fighting style. By gaining a greater understanding of himself as well as the universe around him, he is slowly achieving a sense of enlightenment. With his enlightenment comes the ability to exert his will over the basic properties or the 'breaths' of the things around him. As his understanding of this technique improves, presumably he will eventually gain the ability to cut through elements. This is what Mihawk allready does. A good indication as to how ready Zoro will be for a fight with Mihwak is whether or not Zoro can cut an element. Until he can cut through fire, etc. Zoro will not be ready to fight Mihwak. |
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The weakness to this attack is to have a greater will than Mihawk (Mihawk's will is what allows him to attack a logia user, his will is greater, thus he believes he can cut, so he will cut...as I said very metaphysical), something very few characters can claim right now. |
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I'm not explaining myself clearly. It has nothing to do with the sword, it is all Mihawk. The training that Mihawk has gone through allows him to 'see' past the devil fruit abilities of his opponents, and to 'see' simply the person he is fighting. By understanding the 'breath' of the world around him, Mihawk is able to exert his will upon the 'breath'. Much the same as Zoro, by actively controlling the 'breath' of the univere around him, Mihawk can make it so that he wills his sword to cut through a logia body. To put it another way, there is no way that Zoro's sword could not have cut through that palm tree in the Alabasta arc, while fighting Mr. 1, the very fact that he did not cut through the tree, implies that he can exert his own willpower of his sword forcing it to cut or not to cut (that's the question , sorry couldn'y resist). This is what Mihawk does to fight Logia bodies, he forces his sword to hurt them. Damn, I can explain my idea further, but it gets into some freaky philosophical sh*t, and, well, I don't feel like going through all the hassel of trying to explain everything when I am not even sure if I am correct. |
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I guess what I have been trying to convey here is that, yes, logia users are indeed at the top of the food chain in the one piece universe but they are not so invincible to the point where they dominate everyone else in the series. I am pretty sure that characters like Garp, Sengoku, and Whitebeard, all of which have many years of battle experience, would know how to deal with logia users. I am quite certain they have had encounters with logia users in the past.
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What does everyone think of this concept art for Jimbei? I think that this is truly a work of art and it is an interesting design for Jimbei.
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Well, it is a nice design... however, knowing Oda's style for character design, i'm thinking that design is probably way off. If he really is a whale shark, i'm guessing he's gonna be HUGE (about Kuma/moria size) and probably have a pretty big mouth
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[QUOTE=Blackbeard D. Kuma;1403701]Agreed.
What does everyone think of this concept art for Jimbei? I think that this is truly a work of art and it is an interesting design for Jimbei.[/QUIt is a good picture, pretty sinister, but I am expecting Jimbei to be as large if not larger than Shipwright Tom. This design looks a little smaller than Arlong. Besides Luffy, and the CP9, a physically strong individual is generally shown as being strong by how tall or large-set the individual is. Arlong, Tom, Garp (to an extent), etc. are all 'large' individuals. If this figure was much larger with a bigger mouth (something the Whale Shark is known for) adn hugely broad shoulders, then the design would proably be more accurate. |
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