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FatPianoBoy · 2006-12-21, 10:44

*Sits off to the side and waits until the conversation is safe again*

Ascaloth · 2006-12-21, 13:06

Okay, this just weirded me out....

Is it merely something wrong with either my computer, or the copy that I have, but on Episode 11 10:29-10:35......why isn't Nayuki's lips moving when she's speaking?!

If this is a blooper on KyoAni's part......it's an unforgivably huge blooper.

**Klashikari** · 2006-12-21, 13:11

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Originally Posted by Ascaloth

Okay, this just weirded me out....

Is it merely something wrong with either my computer, or the copy that I have, but on Episode 11 10:29-10:35......why isn't Nayuki's lips moving when she's speaking?!

If this is a blooper on KyoAni's part......it's an unforgivably huge blooper.

now that you mention it... you are right oO
it's like the scene is freezing while the sound is still going on ~~

panzerfan · 2006-12-21, 13:23

That was funny. Reminds me of the shifting bag of spacetime in Suzumiya Haruhi. Nayuki might be pulling a Kyon and talking to herself? Although that's really unlikely.

IRJustman · 2006-12-21, 15:30

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Originally Posted by Ascaloth

Okay, this just weirded me out....

Is it merely something wrong with either my computer, or the copy that I have, but on Episode 11 10:29-10:35......why isn't Nayuki's lips moving when she's speaking?!

If this is a blooper on KyoAni's part......it's an unforgivably huge blooper.

I was examining our HQ print last night before I shipped it off to the labs to strike prints (read: Uploaded the torrents for all to enjoy). I saw that and was wondering if x264 was overanalyzing that scene. Turns out that our other print did the exact same thing. The "Kyon" thought hit my mind, though it was more "thinking to herself" than anything else.

Also, in ep 5 where Makoto caught a cold, the sound cut completely out for about a quarter of a second. Thankfully, I was able cover that one up (yay REAPER). However, I don't think there was anything anyone could have done to that item in ep 11 without ruining the show. However, there was no evidence whether that filling in that drop-out in 5 would be a detriment to the story or not, so I opted to fill it in.

--Ian.

Mentar · 2006-12-21, 20:08

Yea, the best explanation I could find was that the mouth movements were too small to register *cough* ... indeed, this wasn't a problem of the raws, that was what was really shown.

I admit that I was tempted to manually "fix" this with some creative avisynth scripting, basically re-adding mouth movements, but then I thought that tampering with the original is bad, so I left it as it was.

Ascaloth · 2006-12-21, 20:50

Okay, so this is KyoAni's blooper, then.

If I had noticed this earlier, a straight -1 from my original rating from this episode it would have been. I mean, c'mon. Those guys can animate photorealistic cloudy skies....but they slip up on the basics? Give me a well-done foundation over extravagant posturing, anytime.

IRJustman · 2006-12-22, 03:06

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Originally Posted by DanielSong39

Not sure. Maybe they were thinking about Code GEASS?

<belated>

Uh, no. Kanon is the only anime from this season I'm actually focusing on presently, whether it's as an anime fan or fansubber. (Not that I don't want to watch the others; I just haven't had the time or disk space to allocate, plus I am in the process of doing an in-town move, so time is REALLY at a premium).

</belated>

--Ian.

Richard 23 · 2006-12-23, 06:47

Actually, I noticed the same thing the first time I watched it (Nayuki's mouth not moving during that sequence) and when I rewatched I think that Ayu's mouth wasn't moving either. I don't really mind that much since I've got to look lower to read the subtitles and since the animation in episode 12 was so great.

I just checked my SS-Eclipse fansub...@10:45

Ayu: "What are you talking about?"

No lip movement. Aha. But still a great episode. What was funny is that while both Nayuki and Ayu do their Charlie McCarthy act, Yuuichi is unable to copy them. For some reason KyoAni decided animating Yuuichi was more important than animating the gurls.

OkamiNoKaze · 2010-07-21, 19:29

Awesome I like that we're getting in to Mai story, she's my favorite character. This episode had lots of funny moments too.

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2006-12-21, 13:23	Link #104
panzerfan Name means little... Graphic Designer Join Date: Dec 2004	That was funny. Reminds me of the shifting bag of spacetime in Suzumiya Haruhi. Nayuki might be pulling a Kyon and talking to herself? Although that's really unlikely. __________________ It would be enough for the depressing things in life to only exist in reality. It is because that I think the birth of a story... is from people dreaming of a happy ending. ~Misaka Shiori

2010-07-21, 19:29	Link #110
OkamiNoKaze Senior Member Join Date: May 2009	Awesome I like that we're getting in to Mai story, she's my favorite character. This episode had lots of funny moments too. __________________

2006-12-21, 10:44	Link #101
FatPianoBoy Dansa med oss Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Near Cincinnati, OH, but actually in Kentucky Age: 36	Sits off to the side and waits until the conversation is safe again

2006-12-21, 13:06	Link #102
Ascaloth I don't give a damn, dude Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: In Despair Age: 37	Okay, this just weirded me out.... Is it merely something wrong with either my computer, or the copy that I have, but on Episode 11 10:29-10:35......why isn't Nayuki's lips moving when she's speaking?! If this is a blooper on KyoAni's part......it's an unforgivably huge blooper.

2006-12-21, 20:08	Link #106
Mentar Banned Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Hamburg Age: 54	Yea, the best explanation I could find was that the mouth movements were too small to register cough ... indeed, this wasn't a problem of the raws, that was what was really shown. I admit that I was tempted to manually "fix" this with some creative avisynth scripting, basically re-adding mouth movements, but then I thought that tampering with the original is bad, so I left it as it was.

2006-12-21, 20:50	Link #107
Ascaloth I don't give a damn, dude Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: In Despair Age: 37	Okay, so this is KyoAni's blooper, then. If I had noticed this earlier, a straight -1 from my original rating from this episode it would have been. I mean, c'mon. Those guys can animate photorealistic cloudy skies....but they slip up on the basics? Give me a well-done foundation over extravagant posturing, anytime.

2006-12-23, 06:47	Link #109
Richard 23 piko piko pikori Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Western WA, USA	Actually, I noticed the same thing the first time I watched it (Nayuki's mouth not moving during that sequence) and when I rewatched I think that Ayu's mouth wasn't moving either. I don't really mind that much since I've got to look lower to read the subtitles and since the animation in episode 12 was so great. I just checked my SS-Eclipse fansub...@10:45 Ayu: "What are you talking about?" No lip movement. Aha. But still a great episode. What was funny is that while both Nayuki and Ayu do their Charlie McCarthy act, Yuuichi is unable to copy them. For some reason KyoAni decided animating Yuuichi was more important than animating the gurls.