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2013-03-30, 23:02 | Link #122 |
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They weren't 20 nameless jonin. They were elite mooks named the Kinkaku Force. Which were probably similar to Konoha's 12 Fire Guardians and Kiri's 7 Swordsmen of the Mist.
The problem is Kishi has overpowered his Kages to the point where they are Super Saiyan clones who can level countries. The Third Raikage took on 10,000 ninja by himself for three days. So people can't see how 20 really good jonin could take out Tobirama. But what if they were all similar in power to Kakashi, Gai, and Ino-Shika-Cho? That is why it is best to ignore the power levels in the manga. They'll change to fit the story. |
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But sometimes the anime filler just makes it obviously clear that such anomalies exist: for example in the recent episode when the alliance army fought the Edo tensei mizukage without Gaara and other kages. It was funny as hell All they could do is throwing Kunai at him and then he yells at them that they are idiots, then they slowly and sadly collect their weapons and walk back to the starting position to try it again You have to see it to appreciate how funny it is Seeing that scene i was thinking the only way that they can defeat the mizukage is if they use the super-secret weapon: the deadly joke that would make the mizukage lough so hard that he can't stop until he is sealed |
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2013-03-31, 08:56 | Link #124 |
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Then we find out that the world is already under a genjutsu created by the Sage.He created the ninja world right,he's considered a god right,he split the universe into yin and yang(his two sons that inherit his powers).Everything is already an illusion.That's messed up.
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2013-03-31, 09:41 | Link #125 | |
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2013-03-31, 09:53 | Link #126 | |
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2013-03-31, 10:03 | Link #127 | |
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But before the mutual assure destruction politics all world wars ended by the destruction of loser, for example the german military power was destroyed twice, in the second case even the country was divided into two parts (i could imagine if Konoha was destroyed the neighbours would divide the Fire country into 3-4 parts ) Maybe the author wanted us to believe that the kage not leaving the village and the host of the tailed beast (like Mito or Bee) being with him would have a defensive effect that would be scary enough so that enemy armies would not attack the village directly. Last edited by Ero-Senn1n; 2013-03-31 at 14:10. |
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2013-03-31, 18:41 | Link #130 |
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You dramatically underestimate the destructive power of the Jinchuuriki, a single Bijuudama can destroy a significant part of a village and we've seen that they can be fired in quick succession. The Juubi isn't just a WMD, it's apocalypse incarnated, capable of casually wiping out countries and eventually probably entire continent.
There are of course every now and then exceptional ninja with the same kind of power as Bijuu but the Jinchuuriki allowed the deterrent to be perpetual since they didn't age nor die. And Germany wasn't destroyed after WW1, nor was its military. Historically speaking it's very rare for a country to completely cease to exist just because it was defeated. |
2013-03-31, 21:16 | Link #131 |
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I wasn't even really referring to the the Jinchuuriki. There are plenty of non-Jinchuuriki that can blow shit up. Thankfully, there are plenty of minor villages out there for all these monsters to go in and have their pissing contests without worrying about "nuclear retaliation" from places with actual power (ala every "war" America fought in during the Cold War).
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2013-04-01, 05:28 | Link #132 |
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Thanks for the links back to the previous chapters.
I'm re-reading Chapter 486 and it's pretty much the same as the current chapter. Uchiha and Senju = Uchiha and Uzumaki => Let's die together in a lover's embrace! Sasuke's saying the same thing as Madara did.. "why do you love me so much Hashirama/Naruto?" ROFL.. oh dear... anyway. |
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In the manga it seems that Kishimoto doesn't want to tell anything about the country itself, he just focuses on the villages. I expected that the forming of ninja villages would be also the birth of the fire country, but it seems that the author tells the opposite, the fire village seems to be a constant thing in the story. |
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