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View Poll Results: Valkyria Chronicles - Episode 22 Rating | |||
Perfect 10 | 1 | 2.38% | |
9 out of 10 : Excellent | 9 | 21.43% | |
8 out of 10 : Very Good | 11 | 26.19% | |
7 out of 10 : Good | 4 | 9.52% | |
6 out of 10 : Average | 5 | 11.90% | |
5 out of 10 : Below Average | 1 | 2.38% | |
4 out of 10 : Poor | 1 | 2.38% | |
3 out of 10 : Bad | 1 | 2.38% | |
2 out of 10 : Very Bad | 2 | 4.76% | |
1 out of 10 : Painful | 7 | 16.67% | |
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2009-09-02, 22:51 | Link #121 | |
Catholic = Cat addiction?
Join Date: Jul 2006
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Why did Damon not recruit her? Simply put, he didn't know. He never did, even until his fall from grace he never knew what the hell was that thing which not only saved Gallian forces but thrashed an Imperial stronghold in the process. Nobody from the regular army recognized Alicia, why should they? After all, she was orphaned at a young age and from the countryside. Moreover, Eleanor kept the incident in a low profile and probably did not make a full report. Moreover, the platoon commanders had no authority to speak to the general directly unless summoned upon, thus severing any possibility for the truth behind this case to be known by Damon.
Moreover, why should being frightened be their only response to Alicia's transformation? You are really not convincing me. Because she changed? That it? I mean, thats your best argument? That we should be frightened because a dear person we know changed? Hell, I felt more pity than fright. Quote:
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2009-09-02, 22:53 | Link #122 |
Observer/Bookman wannabe
Join Date: Oct 2006
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Reading historical accounts of WWII would be enough to steel your stomach. Goes back to the first rule of war: to fight, you must disregard the humanity of your opponent, for if you hesitate to shoot, you may not have the luck of the other guy hesitating.
Like I said above, there can (and should) be whispers. But ultimately, the soldiers want to go home in one piece ASAP.
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2009-09-02, 22:57 | Link #123 | |
Army of One
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My problem with this ep is mainly due to squad 7's reaction towards Alicia like many have stated. The episode was extremely predictable and the talk between Welkin and Fabio felt generic. I still think it was a decent episode though! I mean come on! Last edited by Sassarai; 2009-09-03 at 00:34. |
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2009-09-02, 23:28 | Link #124 | |
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This is fake drama. Unrealistic drama. Poorly written, out of place drama. This anime is so pathetic compared to the game, I won't spend one penny for the DVDs'. Why support something had horribly written, directed, and animated as this? Disagree all you want. But go talk to real soldiers before drawing up your conclusions about how realistic Squad 7 acted here. |
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2009-09-02, 23:42 | Link #127 |
Observer/Bookman wannabe
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Singapore
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Well, that I can. I was in the Army for 2 years, so I do know a thing or two about military bonding. If soldiers can't bond, operations would be compromised. Wild Blue from the late Stephen Ambrose says it better than I do:
"It was critical for each crew to develop and maintain a close bond....." "They were on their way to being men at war. They would need to have a closeness unknown to civilians, no matter what the civilians did. Their lives would be at stake. Every one of them had to depend, absolutely, on everyone else doing his job right. They had to not only get along with one another but also to have unquestioning faith in each other... "
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2009-09-02, 23:51 | Link #128 | |
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2009-09-02, 23:56 | Link #129 | |
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2009-09-03, 00:47 | Link #130 |
Army of One
Join Date: Apr 2007
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I would be so happy if I fought with a super soldier. More chances of winning the war and surviving. It's when the super soldier is on the other side that I'm afraid of! I wouldn't piss them off and get myself killed! What is there for squad 7 to ponder? Getting killed by Alicia? She already saved them once so they owe her their lives anyway.
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2009-09-03, 01:12 | Link #131 | |
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Now going back from the anime I have to admit that how the squad talks behind Alicia is nothing unusual. That is what you regular do, but it was actually unnecessary. From the game I know that after Alicia has transformed into a Valkyria, Welkin gave the order to avoid her or get too near of her because she was not concious in her Valkyr status and through this friendly fire may be possible.
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2009-09-03, 01:14 | Link #132 |
Observer/Bookman wannabe
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Like I said, at the end of the day, what most soldiers want, more than anything else, is to return home in one piece, and try to forget that they fought in a war. Guess why historians usually have a hard time compiling accounts of ground troops in any war?
Also, avoiding friendly fire is an important skill which should not be underestimated.
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2009-09-03, 01:34 | Link #133 | |
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I agree aisha's reaction and some them call for her gone was well bluntly melodramatic and unnecessary (just stating concern would have been enough). i think the base idea of the squad airing out concerns was a necessary component. which would have been one welkin rousing speech to get everyone back to their senses. everything in the series could have been better done in many ways. but since the having alicia there to hear it screwed that up we have Operation "sorry we were wrong! come back!" at least i hope that is what happens. less moping more action next episode is also a hope Last edited by Illieas; 2009-09-03 at 01:38. Reason: redunacy department needed more redundancy |
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2009-09-03, 01:48 | Link #134 |
Your wife is hot...
Join Date: May 2008
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Lulu Max need some wins against squad 7, kinda feel sorry for that guy, he is seriously the coolest dude in the show imo but never get a major victory in the battle field (from what I see in the show).
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2009-09-03, 03:34 | Link #136 | |
The Spirit of Steel
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Yes, undoubtfully Alicia is one important member of 7th, or like you said a family member of it. She's one of the kindest person in the squad, and some of them are also her long-time friends......But these are basing on the fact (or the knowledge) that she is an ordinary, Voluntary Army soldier------Not the unconscious walking WMD (and she doesn't even know about it, since it's a completely different matter if she knew but not saying it) from a race that exterminated its own race like when she fought Selveria. When she's not conscious, who knew when she will attack her comrades? You may say it's unappropriate for thsoe long-time comrades to fear a member from a family, but they have the right to fear. History already showed us that unknown to something may lead to fear towards it------from ancient-enough fire to modern Typhoon Sub. Simply said, if you watched Band of Brothers (or read its novel version) then the "legends" of Lt. Speirs had already spread fear among 506th even when almost no one saw his "deeds" in person.
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2009-09-03, 05:05 | Link #137 | |
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To be a comrade does not limit to the unit or the armed force type. If you are in the army, then you are comraded with all soldiers of your nation or even cross border in allied forces. At the end comradism only means that you are civilians wearing the same ugly clothes, sharing the same toilet, showers, working for nation and country and share the same housings. In addition you help each other out if your comrades get in trouble against other comrades
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2009-09-03, 05:44 | Link #138 |
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Just watched this episode and I don't know whether to laugh at how corny it all is or cry at how they butchered such a great game...
I'm sick of the stupid anime love cliches and the scene where Welkin questioned Faldio was pathetic. In the game Welkin had some balls on him when he confronted Faldio man to man and had a good idea on what had happened. In the anime as usual Welkin didn't have a bloody clue and looked about as good as a stunned Mullet when Faldio in all his glory simply rattled off his latest list of achievements where shooting Alicia was just thrown in as after thought. Shooting Alicia? A kidnapped the Princess! *Achievement Unlocked* And then the nerve of his parting comment. The only thing I'll give the anime is the plans of the Army to use Alicia against her will. That was one of the things in the game I thought was odd. And don't get me started about the whole Alica and Selvaria in the research lab/orphanage together.
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2009-09-03, 05:52 | Link #139 |
Zetsubou gunsou
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True, Illeas has a point about Damon. It was odd in the game how he didn't attempt to draft Alicia under his direct subordination. But then again this is General Damon we are speaking about...
The way Alicia's breakdown is portrayed is radically different however. In the game it was more gradual Spoiler for game spoiler:
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2009-09-03, 05:53 | Link #140 |
Observer/Bookman wannabe
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Singapore
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Now, linking Selvaria and Alicia together could have been a decent plot point. But, this team had gotten so many other aspects wrong that I won't bet on them making something good out of this particular point.
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