Character Discussion - Suzaku

[El_Negro]

Originally Posted by True Warrior

Uh...without Suzaku Lelouch would have died in the first episode by those grunts

Um u seem 2 forget C.C. was there as well and the fact that she's an immortal and can bestow geass.

[Dream_Traveller]

If Suzaku didn't object in the first place, there wouldn't have been any Lelouch to give Geass to, nor any C.C. to give Geass. Lelouch would have been shot dead, and C.C. would have been ferried off to Clovis.

[True Warrior]

Originally Posted by El_Negro

Um u seem 2 forget C.C. was there as well and the fact that she's an immortal and can bestow geass.

no you seem to forget that was after the fact, the time when Suzaku refused to take out Lelouch when given an order he was struck down which gave Lelouch time to escape with C.C. and when they were found again that's when she stood up, why don't you rewatch the first episode okay

[morbosfist]

If you're going to trace things back, do it all the way back. Suzaku was the one that called in their location. Were he not there, C.C. and Lelouch would have had plenty of time to talk, and the threat of death would have been much further off.

[DN24]

Originally Posted by morbosfist

If you're going to trace things back, do it all the way back. Suzaku was the one that called in their location. Were he not there, C.C. and Lelouch would have had plenty of time to talk, and the threat of death would have been much further off.

Someone else would go to that direction and that person would probably shoot LL even before his superior get there....

[demon_god04]

Originally Posted by DN24

Someone else would go to that direction and that person would probably shoot LL even before his superior get there....

Those people doing the searching are Elevens and they were not even given a gun. And C.C could have jumped up and taken the bullet for Lelouch like she did and did the contract right there.

[morbosfist]

Originally Posted by DN24

Someone else would go to that direction and that person would probably shoot LL even before his superior get there....

As demon notes, Elevens don't get guns. Also, I seriously doubt every Eleven soldier is a Spinzaku. Lelouch could probably escape from anyone else.

[demon_god04]

Originally Posted by morbosfist

As demon notes, Elevens don't get guns. Also, I seriously doubt every Eleven soldier is a Spinzaku. Lelouch could probably escape from anyone else.

To be fair it doesn't take someone like Suzaku to chase down Lelouch, even Milly was out running him.

[DN24]

Originally Posted by demon_god04

Those people doing the searching are Elevens and they were not even given a gun. And C.C could have jumped up and taken the bullet for Lelouch like she did and did the contract right there.

They can still kill Lelouch bare-handed,he's just too weak.C.C can't just jump up right there because she was still tied up...

Maybe I should go back further...10 years ago Suzaku killed his dad,prevented him from doing anything bad to the Britanian hostages-LL and Nunnally

[morbosfist]

Originally Posted by DN24

They can still kill Lelouch bare-handed,he's just too weak.C.C can't just jump up right there because she was still tied up...

They had enough time to untie C.C. the first time. I'm sure she kicks enough ass to take out a soldier. Also, an unarmed soldier, Suzaku aside, would be unlikely to rush a potentially armed terrorist.

[Rising Dragon]

Originally Posted by demon_god04

even Milly was out running him.

IN A DRESS, no less.

[demon_god04]

Originally Posted by morbosfist

They had enough time to untie C.C. the first time. I'm sure she kicks enough ass to take out a soldier. Also, an unarmed soldier, Suzaku aside, would be unlikely to rush a potentially armed terrorist.

Not to mention that a normal Eleven solider would likely be hesitant about killing a Britannian Student as the stigma of such an act could jeopardize his position.

[kaefer_zwei]

Suzaku's birthday: July 10, 2000
Lelouch's birthday: December 5, 1999
Nunnaly's birthday: October 25, 2003
Kallen's birthday: March 29, 2000

CG R2 date: atb 2018

among the 4 lulu is eldest... kallen is older than suzu by a few months... seniority

[El_Negro]

Originally Posted by morbosfist

They had enough time to untie C.C. the first time. I'm sure she kicks enough ass to take out a soldier. Also, an unarmed soldier, Suzaku aside, would be unlikely to rush a potentially armed terrorist.

Episode 15 - Geass vs Geass

C.C. was beating the shit outta the Refrain dealer for info on Mao's whereabouts

[morbosfist]

Originally Posted by El_Negro

Episode 15 - Geass vs Geass

C.C. was beating the shit outta the Refrain dealer for info on Mao's whereabouts

Thank you. Plus she stole that guy's bike in episode 14. I doubt he took it well.

[El_Negro]

Originally Posted by DN24

Maybe I should go back further...10 years ago Suzaku killed his dad,prevented him from doing anything bad to the Britanian hostages-LL and Nunnally

How can he do anything to Lulu & Nunnally?

Charlie didn't give two shits about their welfare, I could imagine this scenario play out:

Genbu: " Invade Japan or your children gets it!!"

Charles: " I don't give a f**K!! Kill them all the same your ass is still gonna get
invaded, besides they were a pain in the ass"

Who knows during the invasion Lulu & Nunnally must've already sought refuge at the Ashfords and changed their titles to Lamperouge, but we can't state what happened during that invasion phase.

[demon_god04]

Originally Posted by DN24

Maybe I should go back further...10 years ago Suzaku killed his dad,prevented him from doing anything bad to the Britanian hostages-LL and Nunnally

Hostages are only useful if they are of value to the people you are using them against. In that situation Charles invaded knowing full well what could happen to his children, he has already written them off as dead and likely might even have counted on the Japanese threatening to or actually killing them to raise the morale of his soldiers against the Japanese for killing royalty.

Genbu really had nothing to gain and could have possibly made things worst if he wanted to kill Lelouch and Nunally. Suzaku also killed his father because he believes that his father's stance would have destroyed the nation and it's people. It wasn't really for Nunally and Lelouch that he did so.

[DN24]

I didn't said he kill Genbu for Lelouch and Nunnally.And even if LL and Nunnally were useless as hostages,they can still do something bad to them due to anger and stuff,they were hostages after all and they were not suppose to be safe in that situation.It was the confusion after Genbu death that allowed them to escape...

[demon_god04]

Originally Posted by DN24

I didn't said he kill Genbu for Lelouch and Nunnally.And even if LL and Nunnally were useless as hostages,they can still do something bad to them due to anger and stuff,they were hostages after all and they were not suppose to be safe in that situation.It was the confusion after Genbu death that allowed them to escape...

Even if they did not threaten to kill but doing anything to harm Lelouch and Nunally would have a similar affect and again likely a factor that Charles already acounted for. The point remains that as hostages Lelouch and Nunally's value had already dropped considerably and Genbu has nothing to gain and would likly make things worst for himself if he harmed them.

[El_Negro]

Originally Posted by DN24

I didn't said he kill Genbu for Lelouch and Nunnally.And even if LL and Nunnally were useless as hostages,they can still do something bad to them due to anger and stuff,they were hostages after all and they were not suppose to be safe in that situation.It was the confusion after Genbu death that allowed them to escape...

WOW your narrow-minded and one track view astounds me


Stop trying to look at things negatively, u don't want to look at both sides of the story, your'e only out painting a black & white image of suzaku & lelouch.