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Someone let me know when everyone isn't trying to defend the parts of SEED that don't deserve defending. This is getting tiresome already.
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2013-02-08, 03:20 | Link #5862 | ||||
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But even if that's how it works, it only further shows that sending the ASH wasn't the best way since it didn't work, which calls into question what kind of planning was put into this attack or even if Durandal even expected to fight the Freedom. Quote:
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2013-02-08, 04:15 | Link #5863 |
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Im not gonna quote as that would take up too much space, I'm just gonna post
1. Impulse: I doubt it was designed specifically for the Freedom, if you wanted to go that far you would send in an equal or better unit with a nuclear reactor. Impulse's design just happened to be quite convenient vs Kira's battle style 2. Destiny: Probably still in development/being built/up in the PLANT's 3. I highly doubted Durandal knew the Freedom was present at a child care home where Lacus and Co. were. The assassins reaction to it appearing highly suggested they had no intel whatsoever on that point, and if they did have that intel, they would have NEVER sent those amphibious suits to do the job and would have planned accordingly 4. Couldnt really care for Durandal's planning/knowing everything, in comparison to Aeolia Schenberg, his planning and everything looked like childs play lol |
2013-02-08, 04:57 | Link #5864 | |
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Also, is it time for this years first Kira Vs Shinn/Impulse Vs Freedom arguments? because we've already had them several times. |
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2013-02-08, 05:34 | Link #5866 | |
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IIRC, wasn't the child care home destroyed during the Junius Seven incident, and so Kira, Lacus and Co. were staying with Andrew Waltfeld and Murrue Ramius at their home. I have to agree on point 3. Also their mission was to kill Lacus through use of firearms. The use of the ASH mobile suits were only to be used as a last resort in order to complete their mission and kill her.
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2013-02-08, 05:48 | Link #5868 |
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Hey now, i simply stated it would/could happen, and it surely did, it's like a open wound
i mean, shit, it's like the fanboys can't let it slip as soon as they get the chance to bring it up again! *cough* Spoiler:
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2013-02-08, 16:30 | Link #5870 | ||||||
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Again, the point of nuclear weapons is so that they're not used at all. Quote:
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2013-02-08, 16:47 | Link #5871 | |
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Orb cant outlast the EA in any possible scenario. And they got a nice taste of how the EA acts in Seed. Them signing the treaty in Destiny is plot-fuckery and Plot-Seirans, nothing else. Arguing over who is right and not is pretty irrelevant seeing how even trying to make a tad bit of sense out of anything major in destiny is a waste of effort due to the actal writing in the show. |
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2013-02-08, 20:35 | Link #5872 | |
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Wait until it blows up again with the SD remaster XD, I for one will have the popcorn ready |
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2013-02-08, 22:23 | Link #5873 | |||||
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And they won't during peacetime as well.
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You're the one who seems to be ignoring the EA's character, that's why I'm using this example for you. Quote:
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2013-02-09, 09:45 | Link #5874 | |||||
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More fanwanking.
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In fact they specifically made a point to show that the conflict between EA and ZAFT was brought to a complete stand still after ZAFT used GENESIS. Quote:
What did I just say? They had to go on and take control to prevent Kusanagi returning and/or prevent a resistance from forming. Going on to invade Orb does not mean they think it was worth it in the end. All it means is that now that the damage is done, you simply take any consolation prize you can get. Quote:
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Nor does it prove that Orb can't deter EA after that. But I'm glad you've finally decided to drop the useless Destroy argument... Quote:
But I'm not talking about that instance.
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2013-02-09, 10:14 | Link #5875 | |
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When did Zaft ever attack Orb outside of Destiny? If you are talking about the small incident regarding the Arch Angel's first entry into orb, that was one submarine and the 4 stolen GAT-X series, not a big armed force. Save some for me |
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2013-02-09, 11:24 | Link #5876 | |
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More you ignoring people's character.
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2013-02-09, 16:54 | Link #5878 | |||||||||
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Sorry but unless you actually have something more substantial to back up your claims, I'm just going to go ahead and think it's fanwanking...
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When he decided to use Requiem and assumed he would be able to destroy ZAFT in one surprise shot? Quote:
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Like I said, it would be a consolation prize. If you don't understand what that means i suggest looking it up now before i go completely insane... Quote:
Irrelevant. I don't know how many times I'll have to say this..drop the Destroy argument. It has no relevance. The point at the very start has been about Orb's perception of the EA before the treaty. And no, the SEED invasion does not prove to Orb that they can't later deter EA nor does it prove to Orb that EA attacks just for being neutral. Quote:
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2013-02-09, 18:48 | Link #5879 | ||
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Lets see Orbs three options: Ally up with the EA or be destroyed Don't ally up with the EA and be destroyed Ally up with Zaft and be Destroyed Honestly, its pretty logical why they made the deal and signed the Alliance, even if it went against everything the country stood for. Once again, as you mentioned earlier, when did Orb deter Zaft? Are you simply overanalyzing the entire situation and drawing your own wild conclusions based on your own opionions regarding this entire thing? you keep posting without any actual facts to support your claims except your own wild imagination regarding the show. |
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2013-02-09, 19:12 | Link #5880 |
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About the controversial Freedom Kira vs Impulse Shinn, it looks like if Sunrise had already planned this fight from the series' start considering the first opening of the series. Episode 35 used the same animation but with a different background.
I think one of the reasons to which this fight causes so much talk is that in previous fight Freedom took no damage. Here we see it taking a hit every single minute. Not even Athrun could hit Kira even though they were using swords. It's like if the budget from the previous episodes was so low they couldn't revise every Freedom shot to show it damaged. I think they overdid by giving such a dramatic ending to Freedom vs Impulse. They could have just damaged the mobile suit a lot without sword piercing the body and simply recover its parts and upgrade them to get Strike Freedom. But yeah, that's just an opinion. |
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