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10: Amazing... | 3 | 4.62% | |
9 out of 10: Excellent... | 4 | 6.15% | |
8 out of 10: Very Good... | 11 | 16.92% | |
7 out of 10: Good... | 16 | 24.62% | |
6 out of 10: Average... | 14 | 21.54% | |
5 out of 10: Below Average... | 7 | 10.77% | |
4 out of 10: Poor... | 5 | 7.69% | |
3 out of 10: Bad... | 1 | 1.54% | |
2 out of 10: Very Bad... | 2 | 3.08% | |
1 out of 10: Torturous... | 2 | 3.08% | |
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2011-11-14, 11:27 | Link #81 |
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this eps is such a mess, definitely the worst of the first 6 eps
apart from the bad script, the character designs of the new characters like the Don, Riria and her dad are bad too is Flit using that key given by his mother as a communication device aka mobile phone?
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2011-11-14, 11:30 | Link #82 | |
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Don't see any problem with it though. Supposedly it contains the specs for the Gundam so it doing other things too doesn't come as a surprise.
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2011-11-14, 11:42 | Link #83 | |
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forgot to mention i am interested in what Woolf mentioned about getting a weapon that is more powerful than Gundam's
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2011-11-14, 11:52 | Link #84 |
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Ok, the good thing about this episode: A worldveiw is somewhat established as we learn of the remnants of the old fighting faction...This is the first time the show went out of it's way to set anything up that competently gives you an understanding of what anything means in this universe (The flashback by Grodek aswell)...
Aside from that, the episode is pretty poor...The animation, for episode 6 of a new Gundam show was abyssal...It got downright old Naruto filler comical in instances, especially with how the guest characters were drawn....There's one scene in particular where the guy jumps outta his worker MS and his body is drawn so disproportionately it's stunning... A second aspect that was very telling was the fight choreography...I'll just ignore the financial WTFness of creating a metal wallway that just pops up everytime there is a fight, but once the fight takes place? It's just dudes standing in a hall shooting at each other arbitrary and randomly...There seemed to be no point at all to the battles, no direction or sense of engagment...Were they fighting over territory, some impeding situation that required battle? Let's just walk down the street and start gang banging in our Zakus...I know what the flashback said they were supposed to be fighting for, but the battlescene didn't highlight any of that... I could go on, Dr. Robotnik just cruising the city with the Gundam in his futuristic El Camino ready to deploy it to Flit in a situation lacking 1 shred of protocol...But this is all nitpicking i guess...I'm suppose to just brush all this aside... This show has got to get better than this...Only thing saving it from being less than a 5 was setting up some backstory which wasn't great, but it was something...
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2011-11-14, 12:32 | Link #85 | |
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Well they pretty explicitly labled it like that as they were getting in the car during the battle. So that shouldn't come as a surprise. I forget how they put it but it was something like "it's nothing special, just ignore it" or something.
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2011-11-14, 12:49 | Link #86 | ||
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2011-11-14, 13:08 | Link #87 |
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I'm not arguing it's not related, just that the flashbacks are likely just the backstory to the whole thing and not what's actually going on. I mean it's way too conveniently non-leathal to be just some production problem. I say it's intentional.
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2011-11-14, 14:25 | Link #89 | ||||||
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The key is to activate the Gundam itself, but it seems to do various other things as well like maintain data. Also what was wrong with the script. Again by all means critics feel free to go into some detail like wingdarkness at least has the courtesy to do. He may constantly go off track and ultimately ends up proving nothing week after week, but at least he's giving some effort to prove something or other to the peanut gallery instead of going, "yup...it sucks cause it sucks", which is basically what this amounts to. Quote:
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As for the fight, I already explained this, but it seems nobody is listening and/or they just don't give a shit about the actual story and just want things their way (this just made my point that much stronger by the way). The fight was pointless and soulless cause that was the point. It's clearly just these two factions going through the motions without a care in the world, fighting a war that they've long since forgotten the reasons for why it started. It's kind of like how some of the battles in LOGH were portrayed when it was still the idiot commanders of the Empire and FPA. No imagination, just lining up and slugging it out and then retreating when one side takes too much damage. It's a really stupid way of engaging in battle...and that's the whole point. Also it's hard to highlight what a group is fighting for in the presence when they've JUST been introduced and we haven't in met there leaders. Don't you think something like that might be coming up? Quote:
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@ OfficerSama -LOL, dude I am like thisclose to going wingdarkness circa 2005 on you....You just don't even understand...
I'm like at a 3 right now Jesus Skywalker^^... Here we go again having a Gundam discussion in a Gundam thread about Gundam...No one pi$$ed off at each other...One person thought the ep was wak having a good discussion with someone who liked the ep, and here you come again...Above the fray, above the peanut gallery seeing deeper things inside of a grade-schoolers' crayola box..."Oh that's not orange sweetie, that's apricot..."Your consistency is almost as frightening as it is blandly repetitive... Let me tell you what klare said: Quote:
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Ugh, you edited and wrote your standard wall of text...Wasn't ready for that, guess I should have been... Processing...
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2011-11-14, 15:10 | Link #91 | ||
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2011-11-14, 15:27 | Link #92 | |
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^You're the type to see a splinter in your finger as an Oaktree...
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When I see MS's doofusly shooting one another with no fight choreography whatsoever, that's what I see...I could nerf myself like you are doing and give credit for seeing bright colors move in a fluid pattern, but I'm not built that way...What I've been saying from the start is that even understanding that AGE is essentially a kid's show that it is failing in many areas in storytelling and depth of plot... As it relates to the small fight that we witnessed, the backdrop of the waring remnants wasn't enhanced at all by the seemingly obligatory nature of the battle taking place...The fact that Don reveals this to the audience then goes out to battle these remnants tells me they wanted these two items to co-relate...They didn't achieve it very well, and that has nothing to do with any other G-show, that's just a simple plotting point... This show is one-note in nature so far, even for a kid's show...If that keeps the Gundam rAGE 2k11 on melting nips level(Which only exists in your mind from week-to-week in every animesuki thread you post in), what I supplied is but a woodchip...
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2011-11-14, 15:37 | Link #93 |
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Obviously, Emily's behavior is to push for Flit x Yurin (Where the hell are you?)
In all seriousness, this was a good episode. Emily actually went to Flit about it instead of going behind his back and got frustrated because Flit's not a pushover. She'll have to learn eventually; maybe the next parts will make her understand what Flit is about. It's the only way for her to progress. I'm not too fond of the dad charging in a blind rage part (really now?) but the part with the UE is very interesting. Apparently they're not too interested in causing wanton destruction, and the omnious bearded guy seems to take great interest like he knows what's going on. So Flit gets cornered by the UE, and they just leave. But he gets blamed for the destruction by the thugs that have been fighting this senseless war. A bit hypocritical are they? Well... will Age have any tricks up their sleeves that won't result in random destruction or will he just end up having to give up here? Flit will probably end up getting captured and they're gonna have to find a way to get the Gundam back.
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2011-11-14, 15:47 | Link #94 | ||||
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Also I'm really not nerfing myself here at all, I just don't see going into a show with the intent to enjoy it and finding plenty to enjoy and be interested in in a developing story to be a bad thing, but maybe I'm just completely out of touch with todays Gundam fandoms ways of doing things huh? Seriously though since when was actually enjoying a Gundam show a bad thing? Have things really gotten to this level of absurdity on the internet Also I'm not even giving credit, I'm just explaining why there was no fight choreagraphy, but I don't think people are capable of understanding in this case cause they've developed severe tunnel vision where the context of the story just doesn't even matter anymore. It's just the autobad and "goddamit why isn't it like this instead?!" Quote:
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There's actually quite a bit going on with this show right now and again we're right smack in the middle of it all, so I'm in the position right now of kicking back and anticipating joining the ride. If none of these things strike your fancy then so be it, but I'm plenty curious to see where they go with it. |
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2011-11-14, 15:50 | Link #95 | |||
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Well, seems like for all the hate in the threads, overall people don't really give much of a damn +28 / -30 seems fairly good considering not much of anything happened. (I'd vote just for the hell of it and help make it positive but non-public polls are way too stupid) Quote:
How did Flint and Emily end up in the city when last time when flint was out he needed to use his tri-scooter thing to get around and the city was nowhere in sight.Well, it's really hard to find anything worthwhile to critique when I actually like the show it seems.
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2011-11-14, 15:57 | Link #96 |
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On the subject of the factions fighting:
I guess it was kinda weird that Emily could so easily run into what is considered a war zone when nobody told them about it. It seems like the best way to explain this is that Emily effectively ran into the bad part of town (The Federation won't handle this issue) and this part is effectively overrun by gang warfare. I see these guys as essentially thugs, regardless of what faction they call themselves as. They're aren't very skilled, but they use number and force in a pissing contest with the other side, terrorizing everyone involved. But note they are effectively cowards; they only use intimidation tactics and are too afraid to actually go through with the implications of "war". Instead they just fire at each haphazardly, scaring the crap out of each other and bystanders to prove their "superiority". They're not soldiers or warriors-- so I call them thugs. They must have some kind of connections, since they are able to acquire some mechs to do fighting. It's basically a large scale turf war. And when fights do actual damage ... everyone ends up freaking out. It went too far. In a world where mechas are commonly used as weapons, this really isn't that out of place. In fact, can you name any period of time where wars and skirmishes weren't the norm? In the less stable places with less order, any group of assholes that can get their hands on some junk mechs would be doing this shit, simply because they can. So the only real issue is that the crew of the Diva needs to really tell people where to avoid. And they really need to keep track of their Gundams. :S
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2011-11-14, 16:12 | Link #97 | ||
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I believe the others are only "mobile suits" and only Flint's is actually refered to as a Gundam.
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2011-11-14, 16:16 | Link #98 | |||
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2011-11-14, 16:48 | Link #100 | |
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As for the private sector, most people (at least initially) probably can't afford to have one. And those who can afford it will have to be careful in its usage since you can't really hide a giant robot for too long. But, as with many other things, time and space will eventually provide a way as long as the knowledge to build and use mobile suits is preserved. |
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