2009-04-15, 23:33 | Link #21 |
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Some seem to be missing the point that a pre-emptive submarine launched nuke strike would slaughter possibly millions of people whose only "crime" is to be born in the wrong country. That's exactly the sort of talk that justifies NK paranoia and makes one wonder who the "good guys" were supposed to be...
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2009-04-16, 00:38 | Link #22 |
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There is no point to discussing this. No matter what you think about the issue, nothing will change. This isn't something you can simply vote on and get your way, you can only sit back and watch.
Worrying is pointless. If you say "We will get nuked (if X happens)" and we do get nuked, what will it matter if you were right if you're dead? I'm not going to waste my time worrying about something that I can't do anything about or to prepare for. That's what I think You could say "nuking NK is wrong," but simply acknowledging that won't change if it will or won't happen. |
2009-04-16, 06:03 | Link #23 | |
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Just in case you don't know, I find that the education system in Asia is more focused on feeding pure information and facts rather than teaching the students how to think, derive and understand. I was given detention for arguing against determinism (statistics) in Maths class in middle school. My phrase of "everything can be determined, if the human race has the ACTUAL capacity to do so" earned me that stay-back-after-school and alot of shit from my classmates. And most of the students just study for the sake for passing in exams and getting into university. If everyone just want to learn and nobody wants to understand, just for the sake of personal pride/glory/gain, nor abuse knowledge in a way which could benefit in a form of discoveries or breakthroughs, what is the point of education? I digress with my idealism of education. Returning to the point of Kimmy and the nukes, I think it would be even worse if Kim dies. A civil war might erupt and spill over to South Korea, and the machine guns at the DMZ aren't enough to mow down a 1.6 mil strong army. UTTERLY USELESS FACT : If you take the initials of North Korea, add a U between the 2 letters and a E at the end, you get what they are always trying to build.
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Well i do not live in North Korea so what i say maybe pointless. But everytime i see Western world try to prove a group of people brainwashed, they always skip lots of detail and try to simplify the problem ( ask around and you can see how many people really believe Muslism terrorists go suicide so they can get those virgins....) Quote:
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2009-04-16, 17:57 | Link #28 |
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People who disagree in North Korea tend to dissappear or get "re-educated". Most of the population is too busy worrying about preventing their children from starving to death to worry about how to change things for the better besides. The lack of vocal dissenters doesn't mean that the population fully supports their "Dear Leader".
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2009-04-16, 23:28 | Link #32 |
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People tend to get too serious when it concern either politics or religious. So it's hard to solve a problem (when it relates to these two) without one side have to submit to defeat.
Then it is also easier to either "for" or "against" something than doubt whether we should or not. So yeah that's why international relations are such a mess. Btw, my friend in Seoul do not even want to discuss about future conflicts in Korea, as he knows how easy he will become the target =]
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2009-04-17, 02:45 | Link #34 |
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From what we can see is that Korea wouldn't have a reconcilation like Germany in probably a few more decades. Having the North racked by a civil war would be disastrous as it might spill over to the South in a matter of hours!
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2009-04-17, 14:19 | Link #35 |
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South Korea would be in trouble if North Korea invades. Not just that the South Korean military is weaker than North Korea's, as soon as millions of refugees swarm pass the borders, the economy of South Korea is expected to deteriorate at a very fast speed. There will be all sorts of problems. Thus, it is best that Japan and South Korea team up, continue to push North Korea back to six-party talks and pressure them to denuclearize as soon as possible. There isn't many alternatives at this time with the exceptions of military operations which most people would prefer not to, including myself.
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Invading the North sounds like a bad idea. But I could see it as inevitable in the future considering how stubborn the North Korean army is.
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2009-04-17, 16:54 | Link #38 | |
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SK might come out (relatively) intact, with NK absolutely devastated, but the losses would be so high on both sides it'd be a pyrrhic victory for the South. |
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2009-04-17, 17:25 | Link #39 |
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It's called an evacuation. The SK will take on the paranoia claims and claim that there will be city-wide evacuation drills in the case of nuclear explosions. They do this a couple of times to determine how serious the populous will take it, make them get out and on one particular evac drill, smash NK, Seoul can burn but the people live.
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