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Alchemist007 · 2009-12-09, 08:35

full translation?

clawer123 · 2009-12-09, 09:32

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Originally Posted by Alchemist007

full translation?

Well, me too i dont know what the Spanish texts means, but one thing for sure, it is talking about Hypocrisy, how NH fans, desperately drawn the NS moments into their moment.

Haak · 2009-12-09, 10:18

Well they're not being hypocritical, if the NH fans in question that draw the art believe NS will happen but still prefer NH.
In any case, I'd like to know where that first picture came from.

clawer123 · 2009-12-09, 11:49

..@Haak, Oh I see..

well, its from deviant art. Someone there compiled the pics made by NH then comparing it to the customized images of NS moments. As you can see, the NS moments from first is from the fanbook and the rest are from the manga panels. and on NH...well? you know where it came from..

Let'sFightingLove · 2009-12-09, 12:44

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Originally Posted by Haak

It may be irrelevant to you, but believe it or not, some shippers actually want to see some romance and it actually developing rather than the end result.

yes well, only some will get to bear witness to 'romance', that's kinda my point

Haak · 2009-12-09, 12:47

So apparently Sakura developing feelings for Naruto isn't one of them?

Let'sFightingLove · 2009-12-09, 13:07

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Originally Posted by Haak

So apparently Sakura developing feelings for Naruto isn't one of them?

no, it is

i'm saying what the shippers want is irrelevant, it's going to be this way, and because it's going to be this way, there is no hope for these romantic scenarios you speak of for certain shippings

basically the end result renders the means obsolete

Haak · 2009-12-09, 13:18

Oh really?

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Originally Posted by Let'sFightingLove

Sakura without a doubt loves Sasuke at this time, but to say she loves Naruto just as much or more right now is irrelevant; point is, she will.

I was only talking about the romance between Naruto and Sakura.

Or are you saying that because a certain ship will happen that means it doesn't matter how it will happen? Like I said, some people want to see how it will develop, rather than the end result. The end result in no way undermines that. If that's the case then Kishimoto can write whatever crap he wants and pass it of as romance because the end result means it doesn't matter. If that's case then I wasted my time watching 23 episodes of Toradora!. In the end it's not about using a trope, but how it's used. Tropes can be used badly, and they can be used well.

In any case, just because NaruSaku will happen that doesn't mean either character can't have romantic scenarios with other characters during the storyline. Ofcourse, it won't mean anything for those only interested in the end result....

Let'sFightingLove · 2009-12-09, 15:00

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Originally Posted by Haak

The end result in no way undermines that.

It does in particular cases such as NaruHina, which is what I was refering to.

my bad though, i think my poorly worded post gave off the wrong impression

generally speaking, you're completely right though

Haak · 2009-12-09, 16:06

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Originally Posted by Let'sFightingLove

It does in particular cases such as NaruHina, which is what I was refering to.

my bad though, i think my poorly worded post gave off the wrong impression

generally speaking, you're completely right though

Okay, then, but I actually think Kishimoto could use Hinata to add more drama. Though it's not going to happen ofcourse.

Gin · 2009-12-09, 16:31

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Originally Posted by clawer123

to some extent i would like to show this:

Spoiler:

INDEED NH PAWNED NS..

with Hypocrisy

How can you only want to show something 'to some extent'?
Also, are any of those pictures actually in the manga? (I don't follow Naruto very closely) If they're not, then who is to say that the NH pictures weren't the originals and the NS are the copies? Either way it doesn't matter because they are all just fan art, and are therefore completely irrelevant to any actual debate about NH/NS (If those pictures weren't actually in the manga)

SoulCorpse · 2009-12-09, 21:18

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Originally Posted by Gin

How can you only want to show something 'to some extent'?
Also, are any of those pictures actually in the manga? (I don't follow Naruto very closely) If they're not, then who is to say that the NH pictures weren't the originals and the NS are the copies? Either way it doesn't matter because they are all just fan art, and are therefore completely irrelevant to any actual debate about NH/NS (If those pictures weren't actually in the manga)

Well if i read right, the first two NS pics are fanart, while the last two are actually from the manga. As far as the NH pics, well those are all fanart, i think.

clawer123 · 2009-12-09, 22:54

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Originally Posted by Gin

How can you only want to show something 'to some extent'?
Also, are any of those pictures actually in the manga? (I don't follow Naruto very closely) If they're not, then who is to say that the NH pictures weren't the originals and the NS are the copies? Either way it doesn't matter because they are all just fan art, and are therefore completely irrelevant to any actual debate about NH/NS (If those pictures weren't actually in the manga)

Oh Man.....

If you dont follow Naruto in the manga closely, then my advised, you must read it, I don't want to spoil it to you.
But If you wanted..,

Spoiler:

SoulCorpse · 2009-12-10, 16:35

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Originally Posted by Let'sFightingLove

This is your opinion...

well i kinda knew it was an opinion. Isn't that what this thread is about, expressing your opinions.

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Originally Posted by Let'sFightingLove

And this is you contradicting your opinion

Not really sure how i'm saying the opposite of my original opinion. I'm simply expressing a seperate opinion i have on the subject. But, whatever, doesn't really matter.

Ulquiorra · 2009-12-11, 15:15

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Originally Posted by clawer123

Oh Man.....

If you dont follow Naruto in the manga closely, then my advised, you must read it, I don't want to spoil it to you.
But If you wanted..,

This thread is has manga in the title. So spoilers don't need the tags.

The first pic was fanart from another mangaka. The second I don't remember from the fanbook. Naruto dreaming about Sakura? I can see why NaruHina fans changed that.

LC · 2009-12-11, 19:17

The second one was just some Jump ad for Valentine's Day. It also had Ryuk or L (can't remember) in a heart so I wouldn't place much stock in it. lol

SoulCorpse · 2009-12-12, 11:34

Gasp, but if Sasuke goes for Sakura, what will happen to Karin. She deserves love tooo.

Takashipl · 2009-12-12, 18:40

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Originally Posted by SoulCorpse

Gasp, but if Sasuke goes for Sakura, what will happen to Karin. She deserves love tooo.

She'll die, end up with Suigetsu or Jugo. Or with no one - why does every character has to be paired with someone at the end?

Ulquiorra · 2009-12-12, 22:48

Very few characters will get paired. If Karin doesn't get Sasuke, then she gets no one.

HayashiTakara · 2009-12-13, 01:19

Karin is "used goods", she'll end up with no one.

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