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Old 2012-04-30, 22:32   Link #3221
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Nice Answer SonicSP, in general wass true than the boycott some mostly from UC fans(who have Unicorn and the upcoming Origin to apease them) and the CE fans(both regular and the now pretty powerful fujoshi-tachi) who for them have SEED HD.

But in general was the net balance, yes Having the Gundam brand was a net winning for both thing, but again the companies them to be pretty conservatives with their 'original' or 'not good accepted' ideas(looks at G gundam and X gundam), again the series as gundam is a whole love letter to the franchise.
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Old 2012-05-03, 02:00   Link #3222
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i very much agree, AGE has seemed to go against quite a few standards that previous era gundam series took. its not the best but its still very good as its something distinct. i like how they follow 3 generations. the AGE series stands out much like Turn A and Gundam X. i find the lack of constant large full scale battles refreshing as there are a few small scales ones tossed in before the last 2 large descive battles.
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Old 2012-05-07, 22:42   Link #3223
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Some words about the rating or public awarness or acceptance of the generation 3? in the past generation, we were discusing how AGE was a failure, how the fans sabotage it, how loss the mainstream battle agains persona 4 and moe anime, but now the climate is tranquil... what happend?

Some words about Episode couting? 'Leaked' Spoilers'? some similar? maybe third generation won the crowd back?
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Old 2012-05-07, 23:34   Link #3224
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It's too early for the rating numbers to be out though even if it returns to Gen 1 ratings it would hardly be a success, both from normal fans or kids demographic perspective. The latter especially being the more important group.

If anything, entering a new generation seemed to drop the ratings more last time around We can't say that for Gen 3 for now because we don't have the data yet but I'm not optimistic. Hopefully it would salvage a bit of the ratings because it it's been good for the two sample episodes we have but that itself may not be enough if it was in a bad ratings position in the first place. Momentum can be pretty important.

A tranquil environment if you ask me is not necessarily a good sign for a show because people are just ignoring it rather than say watching it and finding problems with it, discussing and arguing about it. And people will do that for a show regardless of how good or bad the quality actually is.
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Old 2012-05-07, 23:38   Link #3225
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I'm waiting for the episode 29 ratings to see if the early Age-3 introduction (gundam introductions are quite flashy) into the chapter had an impact.
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Old 2012-05-07, 23:49   Link #3226
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That's kinda true, that was one of the problems I had with Gen 2 even if Asemu's debut in the AGE-1 was kickass.
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Old 2012-05-07, 23:56   Link #3227
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That's kinda true, that was one of the problems I had with Gen 2 even if Asemu's debut in the AGE-1 was kickass.
Yeah, but the series following audience just spent 15 episodes watching Age-1 in action. Plus newly interested ones can't find the new Age-2 even the OP2 suggest its transformable coolness.
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Old 2012-05-12, 13:18   Link #3228
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So the Gundam franchise is supposed to be in trouble right?
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Old 2012-05-12, 13:58   Link #3229
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I guess this is the follow up to last months report that had Ueno Kazunori (Bandai Namco president) come out and say that the overall sales increased for the franchise thanks to Unicorn. It's good to see solid numbers to back that claim, and I guess there really isn't much to worry about (other than problems with attracting new blood ...)

And I don't think there was much of a problem with the Gundam franchise as a whole, just with AGE ... not being successful.

In any case, there is still more fuel left in hear for another attempt on the future. Hopefully they manage to get it right and draw in more kids in the future.
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Old 2012-05-12, 15:23   Link #3230
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I don't think people here or Bandai commented much about how the Gundam franchise is in danger, think their was even something about how Unicorn is a success.

The problem lies in Age and that it failed it's main objective, it failed attracting new blood (children) to Gundam while not being interesting enough for the older audience.

Gundam is a huge franchise which Bandai won't just give up on. However Age on the other hand might not get the same treatment like Wing, Seed and 00 by having a movie or a 2e show.
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Old 2012-05-12, 17:07   Link #3231
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Gundam isn't really in any trouble at the moment since a lot of older fans are still contributing but in the long run it will be if they do not get new blood into the series which is one of the things they wanted to start addressing with AGE.
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Old 2012-05-15, 06:14   Link #3232
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Even Kio's debut can't increasing the AGE's rating.
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Old 2012-05-15, 06:51   Link #3233
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--.- --.- --.- --.- --.- --.- --.- --.- --.- --.- 04/15 tbs 17:00-17:30 機動戦士ガンダムage 27話※未確認
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Even Kio's debut can't increasing the AGE's rating.
Down it goes. In consolation, Age-3 did have a slightly better rating than Age-2 in the m2 range. I hope I can still watch new episodes past July...
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Old 2012-05-15, 08:28   Link #3234
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I don't care anymore. what I know is that we're being entertained by AGE so far.
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Old 2012-05-15, 08:48   Link #3235
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Imagine how good those figures would be if AGE wasn't a flop... lets hope Bandai learn from this and not try and force things with the next TV series.
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Imagine how good those figures would be if AGE wasn't a flop... lets hope Bandai learn from this and not try and force things with the next TV series.
Yeah, instead, Bandai should follow suit, every demand of the fanbase, like it did with destiny.
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Old 2012-05-15, 11:02   Link #3237
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Yeah, instead, Bandai should follow suit, every demand of the fanbase, like it did with destiny.
That is my fear, than because the 'failure' of AGE and that the fans show most interest in the Remake in HD of a 10 year old series... but i don't want other trainweck as destiny(or worse.. a Gundam ala Code geass full with Fujoshi bait)

But Again, I don't know what happen with this series in Japanm have media awarness because, the cardgame and the side material have sell decently, heck even the media awarness make Asemu as number 4th 'Revelation' characther(over 5th being no more no less... Madoka)

But, i prefer this to be a cult classic or sleeper hit and avoid other fiasco like Seed and 00 result to be(CE become the ideal world of the author avatar mary sue of Kira and Lacus, and the thing with Aliens and mad plans in 00... simple that is not gundam)

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Yeah, instead, Bandai should follow suit, every demand of the fanbase, like it did with destiny.
Obviously they can't please everybody, but if they can find a way to please whatever their target audience happens to be, then that's what they should do.
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I still prefer and enjoyed 00 much more to AGE (from what has been shown), but AGE is entertaining so far.
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The next Gundam series (still targeting younger audiences) could mimic the things that had worked for Bandai; season skips plus movie (00) and popularity driven stories and lead characters (DESTINY).
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