Fate/stay night manga discussion

[ReddyRedWolf]

New interlude chap is out.

LOL at Rin and Ludvia's "Friendship".

Irisviel is truly scary. Shirou better not be a lolicon.

[Tiresias]

Apparently there's a Fate/Zero manga, but something bugs me: the summoning of Saber occurred in an Einzbern chapel, so how did the summoning circle got moved to the Emiya workshop at the beginning of Fate/Stay Night?

[Endscape]

Originally Posted by Tiresias

Apparently there's a Fate/Zero manga, but something bugs me: the summoning of Saber occurred in an Einzbern chapel, so how did the summoning circle got moved to the Emiya workshop at the beginning of Fate/Stay Night?

Irisviel drew a circle in the shed so Saber could heal up.

[Tiresias]

Originally Posted by Endscape

Irisviel drew a circle in the shed so Saber could heal up.

Ah, I see. Thank goodness, I was afraid this was going to be another loose adaptation.

[ReddyRedWolf]

Illya Prisma Chap 17

Oh my goodness! Can't help but think of a certain route in Fate/Stay Night.

Spoiler:

Kissing is one way of refilling prana but there is another...

Spoiler:

Having sex

Which Kuro whispers to Illya.

[Xellos-_^]

to those who still care

chapter 59

Spoiler:

caster is dead, Gil appears. All Hail the Fate Route

[ReddyRedWolf]

Re-reading Fate/Kaleid Prisma Illya Zwei! again I noticed Rin mentioning she's half Japanese on her father's side.

Now in Fate/Zero and Fate/Stay Rin is a full Japanese with her parents Tokiomi and Aoi.

Sakura also exist in Fate/Kaleid but seems not Rin's sister.

It could mean Rin has her father Tokiomi and a different mother. While Sakura is born from Aoi who probably married Kariya Matou.

Either that or Tokiomi and Aoi divorced taking a daughter each and Rin having her memory altered.

As far as we now the alliance of Einsbern, Tosaka and Matou did not occur hence no holy grail war. But the Einsberns tried to start one 10 years before which Kiritsugu and Irisviel may have rebelled to save Illya.

As for Miyu I have a suspicion Luvia summoned her from a parallel reality. Namely the Fate/Stay reality. So Miyu could be telling the truth that F/K Shirou resembled her brother, F/S Shirou.

Kischur Zelretch Schweinorg himself summoned Neco-Arc from a parallel universe. Multi-Dimensional Refraction Phenomenon is part of second magic that Kischur Zelretch Schweinorg is capable of. The Jewel Sword and Kaleido Sticks are artifacts of such.

[Grey]

Oh man, Gil is broken even in Prisma Ilya.

Also, Caren isn't judge a nurse cameo side-character? Surprising! I love her intro.

[Ragna92]

Just read the latest translated chapter.. I don't like what they're doing at all. The way the mangaka changed Archer's character so much is horrible. Shirou saving Rin was a pretty cool moment, the way he jumped off the cliff with Rin was pretty GAR.

Knowing this is going to follow the Fate route though, the ShirouxRin moment shoudn't be here.

[Dorsai]

For that who read raws or manga in original- is that chance for RinxShirou ending? And how big this chance is?

[jonli]

Originally Posted by Dorsai

For that who read raws or manga in original- is that chance for RinxShirou ending? And how big this chance is?

I don't think that's an option right now. From what I see they've been developing SaberxShirou more than ShirouxRin. The Rin moments are more friendship/comrade bonding than romantic.

As for Archer's changes, I haven't played the game but to me he feels like a more fleshed out version of the anime Archer. Definitely not the UBW anime archer.

[GeostigmataShi]

Originally Posted by jonli

I don't think that's an option right now. From what I see they've been developing SaberxShirou more than ShirouxRin. The Rin moments are more friendship/comrade bonding than romantic.

As for Archer's changes, I haven't played the game but to me he feels like a more fleshed out version of the anime Archer. Definitely not the UBW anime archer.

I read the RAW
and there's zero chance if you ask me ...
since the scene where shirou said that he realize he love saber is already there
RAGE... RAGE... CURSE...

[jonli]

Originally Posted by GeostigmataShi

I read the RAW
and there's zero chance if you ask me ...
since the scene where shirou said that he realize he love saber is already there
RAGE... RAGE... CURSE...

Well there are plenty of doujins to fulfill your RinxShirou moments , plenty of mana transferring.

[Ragna92]

Originally Posted by GeostigmataShi

I read the RAW
and there's zero chance if you ask me ...
since the scene where shirou said that he realize he love saber is already there
RAGE... RAGE... CURSE...

lol I don't think the mangaka understand that people are sick of the fate route.

[Kyrissaean]

The manga has potential to still include heaven feel route since most of the servants are still around. It could be a better conclusion to the" sparks liner high" ending in the visual novel. For example a certain someone left behind and forgotten at the temple would be a perfect sacrifice and the only reason shiro ended up and that end counts as bad is that his magic circuit was developed but since this manga follow UBW and fate somewhat shiro's magic circuit should be more developed then this no training in and simply attach archer's arm for quick boost. Also rider died could be a lie sakura made to shinji since after all in heaven feel rider got excalibured but unlike fate she somehow came back just like archer did in UBW after they supposed died is due to maybe one of the stories plot hole...

[Xellos-_^]

if you just reading the Eng Scans, it just hasn't caught up.

It is 99% Fate ending.

[bhl88]

Spoiler for Is this a new route?:

Caster is still alive.

[Brother Coa]

Originally Posted by bhl88

Spoiler for Is this a new route?:

Caster is still alive.

It's not, if you remember from original visual novel:

Spoiler for VN:

She attacked them in the yard one day after they rested, she was then killed by Gilgamesh.

What are you seeing here is mix between two routes: UBW and Fate.

The author covered that scene from UBW to explain Caster and her master and then he continued the story with Fate route ( hence the Ilya kidnaping Shirou right after the battle at the church ended ).

[bhl88]

Originally Posted by Brother Coa

It's not, if you remember from original visual novel:

Spoiler for VN:

She attacked them in the yard one day after they rested, she was then killed by Gilgamesh.

What are you seeing here is mix between two routes: UBW and Fate.

The author covered that scene from UBW to explain Caster and her master and then he continued the story with Fate route ( hence the Ilya kidnaping Shirou right after the battle at the church ended ).

Oh I thought it was a new mutation of a fanfic that tried to include everything.

[Brother Coa]

Originally Posted by bhl88

Oh I thought it was a new mutation of a fanfic that tried to include everything.

The manga already ended some time ago, you can guess the ending from here ( or you can just look at the Chinese raw's ).
I actually liked the manga a lot, and I think it merged UBW and Fate routes very good ( Haven's Feel is only partially introduced, but giving the nature of that route that was a given ).