(L) Mirai Nikki (Series)

[DarkyPwnz]

Originally Posted by gecd

Spoiler for Mirai Nikki ep 25:

NOO!! THIS IS NOT MIRAI NIKKI!!
THIS IS BLEACH!!
THIS IS NARUTO!!!
since when this anime became shounen battle anime ?

I totally agree. Episode 24 was an eyesore.

[Flawfinder]

^ You got the episode number wrong.

And yeah, this episode was weird. While not as jarring a shift as Another, someone in Asread seemed to have thought that the manga didn't have enough shonen action, so they included it in the anime. Yes, there has been action in the series before, but...really?

[Dengar]

Supernatural beings shooting at eachother with supernatural powers. I fail to see the problem here. It's not like a fight scene suddenly makes it a fighting series.

[Flawfinder]

I was referring more to the Yuki v. Yuno thing. I know Yuki is quick and all, especially since he's using his phone, but seeing him take on Yuno and getting slammed by that giant ball twice was...weird.

Oh, and if they change the dialogue that reveals the true nature between Yuki and Yuno's relationship (to them, as we knew the true nature long ago), I'm calling foul (I don't think they did though).

[miketyson]

Wow episode 25. I thought they mostly did a better job with this part of the story than the manga did, until

Spoiler for spoiler:

Murmur changed forms...that was just weird and lame, something about the color choice and the face just made it seem like a joke.

The complaints about shonen battle I understand, but it's basically exactly what happens in the manga, just less rushed and better-animated than a lot of the show has been. So I can't really fault it for going that way, although I can fault them for handling Murmur's transformation the way they did.

The finale next week should be good, it seems like the ending episodes have gotten more thought and energy put into them than many of the others.

[thundrakkon]

I really enjoyed the action in the last episode. It was quite a change from the usual Mirai Nikki, but it was a welcome change. It kept the episode fast paced, and it was over before I knew it.

I don't know how Yuki will be able to overcome his latest obstacle. Maybe he will break the 3rd wall like he did with Yuno 2 when she was dying?

So the fact that Yuno 1 is using her powers from Deus 1 victory, does that create some sort of conflict with world 2 game? Also, by using her powers, I am sure that Deus 3 has noticed (which I think the last episode hinted it so with the event change sound when they showed him). Will Deus 3 interfere as well?

There is only 1 episode left. It looks like a rush to the final, whatever that will be.

[FlareKnight]

Spoiler for Ep25:

I didn't really have a problem with it. Besides Murmur looking a bit goblin there, it was pretty good. I mean we have a couple beings boosted by supernatural powers, might as well let them go all out at each other. Also Murmur and 9th something to do while Yuno and Yuki take care of their business. I don't think some action between them at this point ruins anything. The series had fighting and in this case it was just fighting between two beings who could really dish it out.

Sucks for 9th though with the whole losing her arm thing....well should be able to re-attach it if they can find it later. Still in the end she couldn't just abandon Yuki like that. Of course as usual could have saved herself some suffering if she did.

Now I'm really looking forward to the last episode. Yuki's got to break out of that dimension somehow, but the real problem is how they resolve the 2nd world issue. If they don't do something that world is going to go poof (though not like a ton of people aren't dead already anyways). Maybe they actually pull off the double suicide this time and let 9th take over .

[Chase]

Minene deserves better than that. Screw you plot gods. Im upset, i think i'll go lay down now.

[D-KLAC]

well well look indeed after all this yea wonder what will happen next?

yea yuno looking half moon goes red blood then back to regular now wonder to do.
give murmur now let go after both yuki & 9th with yuno bit confuse right now.
then ambulance arrive oh 3rd world yuno’s dad notice something different about yuno.
cue yuno stab 3rd’s world yuno’s dad & murmur don’t change history.
9th going you got be kidding cause yuki want save both yunos so drop them at school.
yuki carry 3rd yuno & hid her cue yuno & murmur attacks on yuki.
while 9th make call about a kid heart to “someone” notice the attack.
yuki dodge all murmur attacks & balloons bombs give got hit by debris.
yuno notice yuki got hurt & more confuse what to do.
yuki see yuno & murmur go charge give dodge the ball then knife but still ok give it was thrown.
yuki grab yuno & 9th battle with murmur all high flying fighting horn blasting etc.
yuno notice it all mine cue big ball drop on yuki with yuno all laughing.
meanwhile 3rd world cop Kurusu talking with a female about missing daughter.
then got a “call” about his son heart then hear news of boom grab a “rookie” to check.
oh random cameo of all other 3rd world dairy owners notice the booms.
yuki see his parents together, jacket, darts, birds, etc.
cause yuki is yuno’s ball of desire of all thing yuki want but no yuno & can’t say yuno.
yuno saying some things that bother her & love yuki but don’t want go back 2nd world.
cue there only can be one rule it all & etc saying.
oh it’s female who lookalike yuki’s mom who want to “do it” with yuki.
yuki panic cue yuno lock the ball of yuki of his desire so yuno can get 3rd yuki.
yuno & 9th have some saying 9th to charge & cue UNLEASH THE MURMUR.
yes a wild murmur appear got fully hulk smash on 9th.
meanwhile yuki being tempt by world of his desire mention a dream to his parents.
about survival game & a “strange girl” & a crying tear coming down.
9th all beaten up being hold by yuno with wild red eyes murmur then drop the 9th & now see her 3rd world version.

oh murmur extra
yea panic seeing about yuno & 3rd world yuno’s dad so murmur doing make yuno small but shrank yuno that strike one.
try again but strike two make a yuno a baby.
3rd time well let say make yuno get “flat” & cue murmur head smash wall strike-out.

indeed with all just happen how will all wrap-up?

[Flawfinder]

Okay, that was actually a lot better now that I could understand everything. A little shonen-y, but it was a great episode. Although seriously, you saved your Episode 21 budget for this?

[miketyson]

The main thing I didn't like with episode 25 murmur is:

Spoiler for spoiler:

In the manga she morphs into a more-evil form, but it's only for a few panels and leaves a lot to the imagination (in particular, it leaves you wondering what exactly Murmur really is, what her situation with Deus Ex was, etc....questions which aren't ever really answered, and make the world of Mirai Nikki feel a bit larger than what you see. Drawing her transform scene out and giving you such a clear look at her unconstrained form left a lot less to the imagination and didn't have the same "peek behind the curtains" feeling to it.

[taelrak]

In episode 25, anyone know the title of the background music that was playing when Yuuno, Murmur and Yuuki were in the school?

[Kismet-chan]

Spoiler:

I can't wait until everyone finds out that Mirai Nikki's ending is... Well...

Reading the reactions in this thread should be hilarious. *Readies my popcorn bucket*

[Justice Knight]

sup murumuru

Spoiler:

[ookamigirl]

Saving Yuno 3 from Yuno 1... geez, what a mess!
Yuno 1 sure is determined to kill Yukkii.
Murmur was annoying with dropping those spheres and being a nuisance.
So 9th is to Yukkii what Murmur is to Yuno.
Closing Yukkii into that sphere... probably saving him for last.

[Spat]

Favorite moment: MINENE-KIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIICK!!! She's still my favorite character...

And this episode kinda explains some of the anime's derpy animations in past episodes, I guess they were just saving up for this episode!

Nice to see the other diary owners again.

[ars89]

Murmur with her seal off was awesome. Too bad 9th lost an arm again. Hopefully she wakes up in time to do something. Like how she told 4th about his son. Hopefully Yuki finds a way out.

[ThereminVox]

I'm really glad they finally vocalized what makes Yuno and Yukiteru's relationship so delicious and compelling. From Yuno's lips, no less. She gets it, deep down: They can potentially bring out the best in each other, but for the most part, they just serve to enable the worst in each other. They have a twisted, desperate and unhealthy kind of love, but it doesn't make it any less real.

Honestly, that more than anything else was what made me like this show in the first place; it's two damaged kids in a world that seems to be conspiring to mess them up even worse who cling to each other because they don't know how else to survive.

[Guardian Enzo]

Originally Posted by ThereminVox

I'm really glad they finally vocalized what makes Yuno and Yukiteru's relationship so delicious and compelling. From Yuno's lips, no less. She gets it, deep down: They can potentially bring out the best in each other, but for the most part, they just serve to enable the worst in each other. They have a twisted, desperate and unhealthy kind of love, but it doesn't make it any less real.

Honestly, that more than anything else was what made me like this show in the first place; it's two damaged kids in a world that seems to be conspiring to mess them up even worse who cling to each other because they don't know how else to survive.

QFT.

I thought the episode was great, personally. An anime is not a manga - you have to make a more visually arresting product. While the action sequences were definitely punched up - and damn well, too - I felt like the spirit of the manga was totally intact. This is not another "Another".

It strikes me that Mirai Nikki acts almost as a deconstruction – or at least a satire – of the sci-fi/fantasy genres of anime. Basically Esuno-sensei has taken everything fans rail against in those shows – dead characters coming back to life, “reset buttons”, divine power-ups – and made them the heart of his plot. Hell, he’s even taken the dreaded Deux ex Machina and put it in the hands of – “Deus ex Machina”! Make no mistake, he’s winking at us here – and for me it works, because all of those unforgivable plotquakes make perfect sense in Future Diary. And not just sense, but the story couldn’t even exist without them. That’s the true genius of this construction

[Flawfinder]

Originally Posted by Guardian Enzo

QFT.
It strikes me that Mirai Nikki acts almost as a deconstruction – or at least a satire – of the sci-fi/fantasy genres of anime. Basically Esuno-sensei has taken everything fans rail against in those shows – dead characters coming back to life, “reset buttons”, divine power-ups – and made them the heart of his plot. Hell, he’s even taken the dreaded Deux ex Machina and put it in the hands of – “Deus ex Machina”! Make no mistake, he’s winking at us here – and for me it works, because all of those unforgivable plotquakes make perfect sense in Future Diary. And not just sense, but the story couldn’t even exist without them. That’s the true genius of this construction

I thought that too, but mostly related to characters. There's a lot of things you see in other anime that gets turned on its ass in relation to them. Like Yuki getting a magical girlfriend, only that girlfriend is pretty much poison. Or the fact that Yuki is one of those wimps who grows for the worse instead of for the better. And the relationship between them is so good (because honestly, I don't think they work on their own very well) due how twisted, sycophantic, and tongue-in-cheek it is. For people who want to see a badass teamed up with a psycho, go read the author's other manga, Big Order.

And who can forget the fact that every time a new diary owner appears, they always prove Yuki wrong. When he tried to be the coward and run away from Ninth, she made them practically impossible by cornering him. When he tried to be the nice guy and help Tsubaki (forgot her number), it ends up backfiring. When he tries to distance himself from Yuno, Seventh puts an end to that plan. When he tries to be the bad guy, his opponent becomes Eighth, who is a genuinely good person.

Of course, whether or not it's a good satire is up for debate, but it definitely improved the show for me.