2014-09-05, 01:49 | Link #34684 | |
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2014-09-05, 03:57 | Link #34685 | |
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2014-09-05, 05:50 | Link #34686 |
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First of all, there is no doubt that Hong Kong suffered a setback, but it is not doomed.
Of course, the communist government in Beijing is not feeling up to a full democracy because they lack confidence of the populous opinion (which, to be fair, is easily manipulable and Beijing doesn't know how to play that game). What will suffer of course would be the well being of average Hong Kongers who had to suffer from worsening living quality. Most economic benefit from the Mainland has gone to a few oligarchs who collectively own 99% of Hong Kong. Beijing is quite out of touch with the average people and that's why they don't understand why so many Hong Kongers are discontent. Beijing thinks Hong Kongers are a bunch of curmudgeons but in reality, life was indeed better pre-1997, with much higher wages, social benefit, and opportunities. The doomsayers however are overstretching the consequences. Hong Kong would indeed become more like a Mainland city, and possibly lose all of its unique cultural appeal, but economically it would do just fine. Low taxation and lax regulation would forever support at least a regional financial hub that's attractive to banks and corporations alike. Just because the head of the government is appointed by Beijing doesn't mean the whole system would be as bad. Hong Kong, after all, is still under intense international watch and its freedom is enjoyed by a lot of Chinese, including many Beijing officials. So basically, does Hong Kong have a bright future? NO. Is Hong Kong doomed? NO. What do I do as a Hong Konger? Emigrate |
2014-09-05, 11:13 | Link #34687 | |
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And yeah, the thought of emigration also crosses my mind frequently too. Though conversely, the option to emigrate as a fall back option does encourage present bolder action - for me it's kind of like, let's push the limit and try for the best this time, and if it doesn't work, leave. Though I think it's a bit selfish to think like this. |
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2014-09-05, 11:17 | Link #34688 | |
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2014-09-05, 12:50 | Link #34689 |
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Yeah I did note that was a bit selfish. But on the other hand, I don't really mean that just because we have the option to leave, we're going to make a big mess and then let everyone else suffer the consequences while we laugh from afar.
Conversely it's more like if there isn't anyone in Hong Kong that's willing to demand democracy and the democratic movement doesn't get much supporters, then I might as well leave the place since I don't want to force my opinion on others. You can argue that the more courageous way would be staying behind and fighting though. |
2014-09-05, 14:29 | Link #34690 | |
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Looks like Afghanistan needs more "democracy" now.
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2014-09-06, 06:13 | Link #34691 |
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How about all those wealthy Chinese families who escape to Australia for the fresh air and clean water? They are moving into my neighbourhood and we have a small property bubble right now. If the families wanted to they could have tried to fight for new environmental laws in China. But no, they left for greener pastures, and I can't blame them.
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2014-09-06, 07:04 | Link #34692 |
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Plane carrying Americans reaches Dubai after being diverted to Iran
http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/...0H026120140906 U.S. confirms death of al Shabaab leader Godane in Somalia strike http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/...0H01OO20140905
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2014-09-07, 01:08 | Link #34696 |
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Russia's Putin One-Ups Obama In Estonia:
"Less than 48 hours after President Obama vowed to "defend Estonia," Russian goons kidnapped an Estonian cop to demonstrate just what U.S. red lines are worth. Any questions as to the nature of the threat? The abduction of Internal Security Service officer Eston Kohver from Estonia was no ordinary criminal act. The Russians who took him jammed police radios, tossed a smoke grenade, seized Kohver and marched him into Russia at gunpoint. They then falsely claimed that he was caught spying on Russian soil." See: http://news.investors.com/ibd-editor...a-weakness.htm |
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2014-09-07, 01:28 | Link #34699 | |
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personally i think the US should take back all the apc and assault weapons giving out to various police agency and ship them to Ukraine.
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2014-09-07, 01:36 | Link #34700 |
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Didn't the Russians freak out about the bases moving to Poland and the ABM systems in Turkey and Eastern Europe? Actually moving into former Soviet states? I'm sure they would take that badly.
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