2010-11-22, 21:09
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LOL... I just can't wait to see your first round opponents because guess what your not going to be a bye week team, and your going to lose out on your 2nd easiest schedule. 7-3.... Arizona... Really? Really? The browns? Reallhy? Really? ATL? Really? Really? If your turd sandwhich team beat ATL one of the best teams in the league I could understand your hubris but OH WAIT you didn't. Bad bad bad... Sigh... Man can't wait for Katrina 2.0, shit that city should be in the sea just like Venice... I can't believe you are calling me the idiot, when your entire city is a bunch of morons who built their city on a flood plane... WTF do you expect. and I'm the stupid one LULZ. ME SMART... ME BUILD ON THIS WET LAND. NOTHING GO WRONG... 4months later.. GRGRGRGRGRRLLLLl
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2010-11-22, 21:21
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 We lost to ATL in overtime because our lickered-up kicker missed a 29yd FG (That should bring back good Colt memories of Vanderjagt)...All I know is when we're at full strength and in the playoffs we're gonna be a hard team to deal with...Keep us under the radar like you did in the Superbowl when we raped Peyton's legacy...It'll make it even more enjoyable...Quote:
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2010-11-22, 23:12
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Join Date: Feb 2004
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He's not number one at all. Brady and Manning sit on a tier of their own. I'd say Brady was better but I'm from New England so I'm probably a little biased. I do think you have to factor Brady's super bowl MVP's more highly than anything else, since that's the most important. But Manning is a godlike passer, I think Manning is a bit more athletic and Brady is a better leader/better under pressure. Brees is a great QB but he doesn't touch Brady or Manning, who are both instant hall of famers.
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2010-11-22, 23:22
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Overall sure Manning and Brady are better simply because they've played longer, hell Manning's overall career stats put Tom Brady to soopashame, but in the last 5 years Drew Brees has them beat in every statistical category for passing (LOL even INT's)...Just like you have to create a caveat (more rings) to compare Brady and Manning despite Manning's superior stats I'll do the same for Brees, call me what you will...
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2010-11-22, 23:30
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Join Date: Feb 2004
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I don't watch Sportscenter. I just watch football, and it's pretty obvious. More rings isn't a caveat anyways. That's all that matters, in the end, which is why I don't think Marino is one of the greatest. Winning on the biggest stage is the biggest accomplishment, and Brady's done it the most of the three.
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2010-11-22, 23:34
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Join Date: Aug 2008
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Oh c'mon man, don't act like ESPN is on Brees' balls any less than they are Manning's and Brady's, because you KNOW that's a load of bull. There is a reason no one talks about the Falcons or the Bucs despite both being 7-3.
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2010-11-22, 23:40
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@Dilla - Seriously? The Saints might be the least talked about SB Champion I can remember...I watch NFL Total Access everyday and INSIDE THE NFL every week and they barely mention us...The Falcons will get buzz when they go 13-0 to start a season then win the SB, nuff said Carolina Blue...
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2010-11-22, 23:53
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Now I KNOW you're messing with me. I really, really been trying to avoid this shit, but the media has been all over the New Orleans Saints since they went to playoffs a year after Katrina. It was a good story, but it continued. The media was all over the Saints in 2007 & 2008 (Brees was a turnover machine early in both seasons) when ya boys missed the playoffs, had them as favorites both years. I especially remember 2007, because beat writers had Saints coming back from 0-4 to win the division (though to be fair, TB won with only a 9-7 record).
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2010-11-22, 23:58
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^Well that's more of the Katrina $hit, which honestly I'm tired of everytime they bring it up to (Trust me people in New Orleans don't love how the media pimps that out all the time during ballgames)...I do understand how many in America can be tired of it too, but a f***ing hurricane did nearly kill my a$$ so that is what it is..I was more or less talking about the Saints in purely the football sense and trust me they don't talk about us nearly enuff for a SB champ IMO...INSIDE THE NFL goes full eps without even mentioning us...
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2010-11-23, 00:18
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 Nah, I know it's just my opinion... but I'm pretty sure in the opinion-o-sphere you're still grasping at straws.
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2010-11-23, 00:24
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#1 passing QB in the NFL the past 5 years in every statistic...Superbowl MVP and winner over that same span...Perfect and perhaps greatest QB rating in NFL history (According to historians) ever in the game verses the New England Patriots last season where terrific Tom Brady threw 2 terrible picks...Those are also facts...Have another beer, on me...
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2010-11-23, 00:29
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 . Never denied Brees is a great QB, just said he isn't on Brady's level. You can't have it both ways, if my point about super bowl wins is invalidated due to it being my opinion on how important it is so is your point... 14-4 in the playoffs, 3 rings, and a great statistical career... enough said.
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2010-11-23, 00:48
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You living off old$hit which is fine, so I'll live off old $hit too, last season Brady couldn't touch Brees and don't give me no crap about a bum knee, Brees had a glass throwing shoulder before his breakout season that Doctors thought would end his career...Puh-leeeze, Brees is right there...
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2010-11-23, 00:55
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He's won one superbowl. His stats aren't that much better than Brady's (arguably Brady's are even better). I just don't see it, and won't until Brees gets another ring (if he does, then yeah I agree with you. But no sooner). Until then, you're on your own
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2010-11-23, 01:51
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2010-11-23, 09:29
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If we are going to play the Season stats game.. then Philip Rivers is the best qb this season, eve if you factor in his fumbles, his TD to TO ratio is better, he has more yards, the only thing that is different, is that he didn't get to do it against scrubs. Hell I would even contend that Aaron Rodgers is the best QB in the league as of now, his TD to TO including his rushing TD's is off the charts, he's actually played some grueling games and brought victory when all seemed lost. This guy is the real deal and he's most likely the QB of the future, also he lost Finley early in the season and will be out one of his best recievers. Also his team has suffered extensive amounts of injuries like the Colts. If anything GB's Aaron Rodgers is more qualified to be the MVP and if brees does win it, it will be a sham perpetuated by the league to continue to promote the stupid story of NO, who gives a fuck about Katrina, they brought it upon themselves.
Build on flood plains? Check. Cry when plains flood? Check. Make the atrocities that happened in the aftermath of floods and the superdome influence football? Check. Cry about how good your team is because you "overcame" adversity? Check. Continue to live on the Flood plain? Check. Rage at people who point out this idoicy? Check. I mean it's madness to think that New Orleans will not flood again, it's madness to conflate the rebound of City and the atrocities that occurred in the Superdome with the Saints football team, sorry life isn't like Rudy. Look it's one thing to like your team but pretend that your team is the second coming of the messiahTM and is about rescue us from the Floods is just preposterous. The Saints were irrelevant before Brees got there, and we have this cognitive dissonance of how powerful this Quarterback is to his team, then when the Schedule for the Saints this season is pointed out to be weak, we are met with the argument that the Saints had no control over the schedule (does this matter? no because the record is currently being used as a justification of the praise being lauded on this overrated team.) Then we discuss the losses to bad teams, such as the Cleveland Browns led by a rookie QB Colt McCoy would helped wallop the Saints, the Arizona Cardinals who had a relative newby Max Hall lead them to victory over the great "Saints" and then of course the best team in the NFC the Atlanta Falcons who beat the Saints too. If all measure to critiquing a team are no longer valid, this clearly is a logical fallacy which means that once the fallacy is established anything said about said mediocre franchise must be true such as the assertion that Drew Brees is the best quarterback in the league because he won the most recent superbowl... It's frustrating how fickle the fans mind is for the superbowl the year before or heaven forbid the superbowls that preceded them. Talk about irrational views purported by fandom, seriously Wingeddarkness is worse than any shipper, there is no talking logic or reason, only emotion, only NO. @Chainlegacy Why would it only take 1 more superbowl for Brees, he would need 3 total, and multiple seasons making the playoffs to prove the consistency similar to the caliber of Brady who may not win every year and who I truly do hate, has do something special by putting his team in the position to win close games and allow his team to win. I mean it's just the way it works, that's why Kobe still really isn't readily talked about when Jordan is brought up but if he were to win a sixth title he would be more in the discussion to be a greatest of all time player. The point is results matter, and among Manning, Brady, Brees, 2010 Vick, and a small part Rivers, Brady is the most consistent and although I wouldn't pick him for my team I can see his value and his consistency in the playoffs. Last edited by Nosauz; 2010-11-23 at 16:09. |
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2010-11-23, 17:59
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Counting this year: Brady - 137 games 244 TDs 103 Ints 33,206yds 4 Sbs 3 Wins 1 NFl Mvp 93.9 Career Rating 63.5 pct Brees - 132 games 224 TDs 124 Ints 33,615 yds 1 Sb 1 Win 0 Nfl Mvp 92.0 Career Rating 65.2 pct With the stats given you can conclude that Brady and Brees have played almost the same amount of games. With slightly more games played Brady has 21 less INTs and 20 more TDS. He has 3 more SB appearances and 2 more wins. 1 Mvp over none and a better overall career rating. The only things Brees has over Brady is a measly 409 more passing yards and a 1.7 better completion percentage. |
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2010-11-23, 20:10
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This is called an ARGUMENT...Snag a debate course and realize what one is before you get all huffy back at me...I'm making a case for Drew Brees being included, you don't agree? It don't matter cuz you still don't win...You don't decide (The middle does) and certainly that home-schooled Nascar-baby Biff doesn't decide either...
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2010-11-23, 21:05
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HAHAHAHAHHAHAHA... Apparently anybody who thinks the Breezus is not the second coming of Jesus is a "home-schooled Nascar-baby Biff" that hilarious, the uncultured barbarism is so ironic that I just can't see how NO fans can think of themselves cultured or anybetter than "NASCAR fans" Apparently making intelligible arguments based on fact is too much for Wingeddarkness to understand. Your debate is one that has false assumption hence it's logical fallacy and thus proof based via logical fallacy that you can state Breezus being any good.
It's so funny... you never "argued" you just decided that Brees is the best... you state it often, if I went through your comments in this thread I would find countless examples of this, cognitive dissonance meet reality, how do you have the right to tell me that I don't have the right to decide, then you yourself decide. Uncultured hypocrite. Jeff Fisher Mcnair's Vince Young and denies him access to the facility http://www.rotoworld.com/content/pla...rt=NFL&id=3602 After the crap that happened to Mcnair and then his untimely death I feel like the Titans should be hypersensitive about this situation, especially with vince young. Also I understand why Jeff Fisher is doing this but antagonizing this quarterback is not going to do any service to the franchise, the team, and a playoff berth. Last edited by Nosauz; 2010-11-23 at 21:25. |
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2010-11-23, 22:18
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^Please you poser Manning apologist...I've been in this thread awesomely//sadly since the day it was created...You are absolutely at the bottom of the barrel compared to me in this thread...I have argued points logically with depth so many times it would be hard to count...But with that said this is a sports talk thread and talking smack and poking each other in the ribs is a compartmentalized aspect of this thread that gives it its spice...
So yeah I engage in that aspect of the thread aswell, and just like a person capable of rubbing their belly and tapping their head at the same time I UNDERSTAND what I am doing... Nearly everyone of your posts have been incessant, almost incomprehensible verbal scribble-scratch with missing letters and a weird, almost middle-school beastman like subtlety...The stench of you're obtuse ramblings hit the nose with the vigor and break-neck essence of a convenience store bum on a humid day... You have no arc, no ebb or flow to juxtapose vs my own (Just monotone over the topness)...Your traits appear to be loud, crass, and common something quite familiar with whatever Nascar stereotypes that I was reaching for... This entire debacle started from me giving a very facetious appraisal of Drew Brees throwing 2 INTs inwhich they could have easily given him 6 TDs on the day...This Manning fan (AKA butthurt over SB44-fan) apparently took my Breesy, laid back words to the apex of insult, then (as what often occurs in conversational evolution) it turned into a Brady, Brees, Manning debate inwhich I stated my case for my guy... He then (in an inexplicable tirade) started dissing my city and making fun of the worst disaster in it's history (Katrina)...Now I'm certainly no Anus Andy so i can take it in stride but you dare to suggest anything but an uncouth level of sophistication that you've shown? Do you know how many people died horrifically? How many dead bodies I personally saw, the f***ing terror of leaving my house to a real life Jurrasic Park movie set? No you don't Biff, so I treat you like I treat the mailroom guy I hop on the elevator with at work with the pirate patch over his eye...As harsh as it sounds, it is without much respect Biff...
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Fly since ↔...
. I'm sorry, but the team around him is just crap this year. Too bad he made such a boneheaded move to retire from Green Bay 3 years ago D:<. Well, hopefully the Packers will let him sign a one-day contract when he finally does decide to pack it in (no pun intended).
