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View Poll Results: -Your- picks for the best songs in Macross Frontier [Multiple-pick Option Enabled] | |||
Welcome To My FanClub's Night! | 67 | 21.34% | |
Shinkuu no Diamond Crevasse | 108 | 34.39% | |
Aimo ~Tori no Hito | 83 | 26.43% | |
Infinity | 84 | 26.75% | |
Diamond Crevasse ~Sheryl Only♥ | 184 | 58.60% | |
Northern Cross | 150 | 47.77% | |
Anata no Oto | 55 | 17.52% | |
Seikan Hikōu | 82 | 26.11% | |
Yousei | 98 | 31.21% | |
Ai Oboete Imasu ka ~Ranka | 76 | 24.20% | |
Watashi no Kare wa Pilot | 30 | 9.55% | |
Lion | 165 | 52.55% | |
Diamond Crevasse 50/50 | 36 | 11.46% | |
Aoi no Ether | 49 | 15.61% | |
Neko Nikki | 20 | 6.37% | |
Nyan Nyan Service Medley | 101 | 32.17% | |
What 'bout my star?@Formo | 109 | 34.71% | |
Triangler ~ Maaya Sakomoto | 71 | 22.61% | |
Iteza☆Gogo Kuji Don't be late | 88 | 28.03% | |
What 'bout my star? ~Sheryl | 78 | 24.84% | |
Aimo OC | 52 | 16.56% | |
Triangular - Duet - | 93 | 29.62% | |
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2009-10-31, 02:08 | Link #2021 |
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^ - it's her debut so first impressions last, eh?
I personally think May'n is too skinny to dance and as for Megumi, she's bigger than May'n so I wouldn't like her to move too much, just a few hand waves would do and some strides hey that's a fair performance for me. |
2009-10-31, 02:16 | Link #2022 | |
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The six-minute "Seikan Hikou" was a highlight of the show. So was the eight- or nine-minute "Diamond Crevasse," but May'n didn't dance for that one. |
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2009-10-31, 05:46 | Link #2023 | |
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I don't see DC ever being danced to. Perhaps choreo-ed ones, but I'd rather not see any dance moves added into a performance of it.
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2009-10-31, 08:05 | Link #2024 | |
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Otherwise it was better than the crap she did on debut. I still refuse to believe a series of cutesy poses = dance. And if anything Seikan Hikou should be 'danced' like this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IgjvqKzvif4 Also today I have finally understood what bugs me so mucha bout Megumi's cutesy act. SHE'S LIKE A KINDERGARTEN MUSIC TEACHER. Or those terrible childrens' 'educational' tv show hosts in their terrible outfits and childish songs and painful 'dancing'. THAT'S WHAT SHE REMINDS ME OF. |
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2009-10-31, 08:31 | Link #2025 |
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I personally find all this talk about how the artists look like, the way they are made to dress, and other things, quite distasteful. Not only does it not talk about the music itself, it also seems to be the case that people are siding onto the artist who sings the voice of their choice character.
Just to counterpoint some comments above, Megumi is indeed pretty. She has an upturned wide smile, straight teeth, and her eyes curl into a mild expression when she smiles. She also has a shapely face with moderately high cheek bones. Her figure isn't bad either. And why is it the case that when Megumi is dressed badly, it gets so much spotlight, when it's obvious that she's just acting out a role that has been handed down to her? Just like her, May'n seems to have been handed down the role of stylish diva, which I personally think is not her true character, and does not fit her either: May'n is a sweet girl who dresses up like one, and acts like one in real life. When she tries to project Sheryl in live performances, with her facial expressions and dances, I personally think she does not do too well either. But do people blame her for it the way and laugh, the way they blame and laugh at Megumi? And now coming onto the singing itself. May'n sounds scratchy live. To quote one of my friends who is a professional singer, she sounds like she doesn't warm up before her songs, which makes her voice scratchy, shrill, and thin. As compared to her recorded songs, her live voice sounds more shrill. Just listen to her live DC and the recorded one. I don't want to say that her recordings are much padded with ProTools, but that's what it seems to be. Megumi on the other hand, is able to keep her bell tone which is very pleasing in both recorded and live versions. With the additional power and emotion she puts out in live performances, I definitely side with her for live performances.
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2009-10-31, 08:43 | Link #2026 |
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*clears throat*
It's called, show business. You have your star, you have the fans and you have the haters and so on and so forth. As a May'n fan, I am most sure I can exercise my bias. And so I do. And I'll keep on looking at the things I think will conform to what I fancy. It doesn't even need to be objective. Heck, is there such a thing as objective to begin with? We all do this. Perhaps some do it more than others but we all do it nonetheless. Anyway, whatever.
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2009-10-31, 08:50 | Link #2027 |
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Just like you, I am offering a critique of the artist, biased or not. I am just trying to voice out, just like some others, the alternative line of thought regarding this. If someone doesn't buy into my philosophy, I wouldn't mind either, we all have our ways of thinking.
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2009-10-31, 09:39 | Link #2029 | |
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You see, Megumi can't get my brain to release any bit of endorphins every time I see/listen to her. When I bash her, however, heh, boy do I feel soooo good.
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2009-10-31, 09:41 | Link #2030 | ||
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I enjoyed the music well enough where I didn't really care to nitpick on things (aside from the clothing choices). But the fact that they are singing side by side will bring out comparisions, one way or another. Quote:
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2009-10-31, 09:42 | Link #2031 | |
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Now, now, I don't have a single problem with any points brought forth so far - and I actually don't really care about any of the girls personally, but merely as artists (and then, I do like them both, while preferring May'n), but...
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Also, I find most live renditions of Diamond Crevasse made by her to be completely gorgeous - even while not outshining the recordings they come close, in comparison. Naturally, IMHO, and I'm not a professional singer or anything, merely a fan of good music. As for Mamegu's tone, obviously it's the same live and on the recordings. She only has one. Please don't shoot me.
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2009-10-31, 09:53 | Link #2032 | |
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It's "thin" as opposed to "round", and not as opposed to "loud". I do think that May'n's strength, which sells her the best, is her vocal emotion. In between vocal tone and emotion, the latter is harder to gain, because tone is somewhat inborn. But as a personal preference, I like both tone and emotion in balance, that's why for me, Megumi takes the cake, but only during live performances.
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2009-10-31, 10:06 | Link #2033 | ||||
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Talking "about how the artists look like, the way they are made to dress, and other things" may be distasteful to you, but it's what happens when you put your face out into the public- you either get squeels of joy or extreme scrutiny. It's called show business, and this is why a good public image is so important. Back on May'N's outdoor LIVE "Northern Cross" show I was pretty damn relentless about her clothes and terrible stage choreography. It looked like something a person in her late 30s suffering from mid-life crisis would wear with the rag blob street-wear and strange flower stuck in her head. Oh and the hulking, the great nanny hulking. There was that other convention show too where she came in this hideous cowgirl prostitute outfit with back up dancers all armed with candy canes. *headdesks* Quote:
Sure I don't think she's the hawtest girl alive but I'm a girl >_> AND I'm asian. Girls who look like Nakajima could be seen in the streets. Quote:
My annoyance with Nakajima, is the fact she and whoever is responsible takes this image much too far. Quote:
Throughout her parts, Megumi's been either completely off tune or strained. When the more singable parts came she went flat on all the end notes. While I can let off the first few notes as her "trying to keep herself from crying" or even "the song is difficult to get straight into in the first place", but she cooled down nearer the end of the song and it still was the same. Same flat, same thin same off. There's a reason why Megumi "keep[s] her bell tone", it's because she rarely EVER sings outside of her vocal range which is...not very large. Even in the Citaron song, her range is very short. As for May'N, she usually sings songs with pretty massive range, and belts her comfortable notes really loudly which makes the transitions between her higher, mid and lower cords slightly strained. Even then, at the very least she sings each pitch in a heart felt way unlike Megumi who- when finally tired as seen in the final Medley- goes flat. Totally flat. Furthermore May'N actually improves as she does more LIVEs. Her first Diamond Crevasse LIVE sounded really constipated >_> I was pretty disappointed back then, but in June there was this: (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fnkQgpXj8fM) Which I was honestly quite happy with (asides from the hiccuping hahhahahaha they were a little distracting). Her "Northern Cross" LIVE sings are always incredible, and her getups are getting increasingly cuter in a normal fashioned way (I want her long jackets ;____; !!!!). I couldn't stand May'N before, but I converted as her image took a better shape. Nakajima however >_________________________> @justavisitor: Being a fan of one songstress doesn't require hating the other, but I choose to hate the other because I find her songs mediocre and in the case of her original songs, terribly composed. I also hate her image and supposed 'dance' routines. Just because I like one songstress, doesn't mean I'm not allowed to hate the other |
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2009-10-31, 10:29 | Link #2034 | ||
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Not meaning to be such a critic, but if you could hear, in the video you posted, there is a lot of echo, which is regularly used to create a rich tone. It's also the most common effect used in post-recording to make voices sound richer, and depending on the location and broadcasting effects, could be mimicked in live performances. If we use the Budokan Live with two singers singing in the same kind of setup, the difference is heard.
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2009-10-31, 11:15 | Link #2035 | |
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Egads, it was SO tacky XD
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With the Budokan version though, I give her the same handicaps as I give Nakajima. The two of them had sung a lot of songs at this point and, frankly DC is a terribly difficult song to start up on, seeing as it starts on a high note right on the get go. It's not all that surprising that she starts off a little scratchy- but she did warm back into the song. On the other hand, Nakajima didn't hit the note at all X'D Even still, I admit I'm not particularly fond of the Budokan encore DC. I always enjoyed the moments when the chorus sped up and you feel this wonderful sense of trilling urgency. You just didn't get that rush on this one since they kept it all at the same/similar tempo >___> |
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2009-10-31, 12:17 | Link #2036 | ||
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2009-10-31, 13:01 | Link #2037 | |
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And she hasn't cried yet at that point. Actually she hasn't cried at all? The shiny things you see are eye makeup and face sweat; |
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2009-10-31, 13:10 | Link #2038 | |
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You can't. If that sickens you, well, too bad. You'll be in semi-eternal state of sickness. You, I and everyone else will just have to suck it up.
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2009-10-31, 18:28 | Link #2039 | |
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2009-10-31, 18:50 | Link #2040 | |
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Plus, Mari's a different type of idol, since she has always written her own songs. And where did you get the information about Mari's album sales? I love her music dearly, but I've always been under the impression that her albums have had middling sales figures. She was semi-big...but if you look at '80s idol compilations, she's rarely on them. |
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