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Did you read the "Untouchable" chapter? Read the last parts again.
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2013-05-27, 19:01 | Link #4662 | |
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so it was passed 33 years ( Maya is 45 years old Oba-san ) it's impossible if he was the son of the results of the incident |
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2013-05-27, 19:10 | Link #4663 |
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I think he's Maya's son but not naturally. the people who kidnapped her put her through experiments in magician manufacturing (it's stated that was their intention). and yet despite the fact that they could regrow organs and even limbs, Maya was still proclaimed to not be able to have children. The only way I can really see this being so is if she no longer had her eggs. She did say that they messed with the inside of her and I don't think that was just talking about being raped since she said she was raped AND they messed with her body even on the inside. Tatsuya was probably created by remnants of the group who escaped the Yotsuba's purge. eventually he was rescued by the Yotsuba and raised by Miya. Miya was said to abuse her powers to weaken herself as a penance to her sister. Might explain why she was so willing to use it again on Tatsuya despite how bad her health was by then.
it's not as a result. More like they stole her eggs for means of manufacturing magicians. The Yotsuba tried to wipe them out but some might have escaped from it with them. Even if they had them though. it would still take a while to regroup and start again.
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2013-05-27, 19:43 | Link #4664 |
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reading the last part of the novel 8 understand that Maya felt to be kidnapped, his father sacrificed his life for his daughter that means Genzou was good,but that did not give him the right miya to do that with tatsuya ,experiment wiht tatsuya as they did to his sister
what do you think about that?
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2013-05-27, 19:54 | Link #4667 | |
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16 i believe. You'd have to consider the time it would take them to get back on their feet though. finding sponsors, getting back their equipment, and all while hiding from the Yotsuba. Tatsuya wouldn't likely be the only attempt either. all of this would take time. i personally find this a neat idea because it's leave open the possibility that anther that s exactly like Tatsuya in terms of ability could turn up. you gotta wonder just who would win if Tatsuya had to fight himself.
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2013-05-27, 20:30 | Link #4669 |
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I'm reading the quote as Tatsuya got experimented on because he "lacked the ability to use magic" rather then it was in any way typical to experiment on normal magically talented members of the Yotsuba. Am I somehow misinterpreting the qoute, I'm still not seeing any implication that most members of the Yotsuba went through the same things Tatsuya did.
This is not saying the Yotsuba don't run experiments, the Sakurai are a clear example of that, but that doesn't mean they experiment on family members. If 29 people composed half their fighting force in Genzou's era there were never many members of the family, risking losing any of them to experiments likely wouldn't be worth the marginal gains. |
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No where stated Maya could still feel emotions afterwards which lead me to believe Maya feel emotions as information and still can't experiences, cause the changes to her are permanent.
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Untouchable — The Nightmare of 2062?
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Everything is in the past tense so I interpreted that as the experiments were done by the Fourth Institute and the Yotsuba were the end result, not that they continued after creating the Yotsuba bloodline. The test subjects before they were officially Yotsuba and founding members might have been experimented on, but the succeeding generations who officially were Yotsuba would have been strong magicians so there would have been less necessity to risk them. Last edited by yuzen003; 2013-05-27 at 21:22. |
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By the same token, nowhere does it say any new experiences are converted to knowledge. Personally, I sort of doubt its an ongoing effect like that. |
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2013-05-28, 02:46 | Link #4676 | |
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And my earlier reply was meant for the one saying that the reason why Tatsuya is hated by the clan is because he is rebellious. That's not the reason. He's hated because he was a defective magician unworthy of being called a Yotsuba because of the nature of his magic and the results of the experiment. He's loyal but only to Miyuki. |
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don't forget Tatsuya is as a servant / bodyguard, a disposable tool. so showing empathy for a tool is improper. in volume 8 we know that actually Tatsuya is an obedient servant. even he was obeying his mother and do the appropriate thing when he meet kuroba siblings and his uncle. don't know when, but maybe after miyuki value tatsuya so high, he start to change. i think he is a little bit haughty too. he don't really follow anyone orders if not necessary and sometimes act on his own. then probably the clan are jealous because Miyuki value tatsuya very high even though he is a servant/bodyguard. |
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2013-05-28, 06:28 | Link #4678 |
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This should point out that Miya was the elder twin and head candidate ... merge between clans is higly unlikely ... also while Miya magic concerns structure of self Tatsuya magic concerns structure of objects ... they both supplement each other magics and both seems to have ability for their respective structure analysis ... coincidence ?
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