2012-11-22, 07:35 | Link #801 | |
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Also, it was 50 000 Gold on top of paying for full expenses of the war, and, while they did not receive Alsace (It was jointly controlled by Ellen and Regin, rather than Zhcted and Brune), they did get Agnes in its place. Though a somewhat crap territory that was arid, I believe it was much larger than Alsace, so it's questionable whether the trade was even or not. Even if 700 000 silver > 50 000 gold, I think Zhcted got a better deal in the end. |
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2012-11-22, 09:13 | Link #802 |
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If Tigre charmed all the remaining Vanadis then that makes him the undisputed ruler of Zhcted furthermore he is unofficial engage to Regin making him king of Brune. If all goes well he might also conquer Asvarre maybe by the end of the Novel he will be either dead or the King of all lands making him the supreme ruler of all.
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2012-11-22, 09:35 | Link #803 | |
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2012-11-22, 12:24 | Link #804 |
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Just read through all 5 volumes, this is pretty interesting.
There are only 5 volumes on B-T, when is Vol.6 going to be published? In the epilogue of Vol.5 it says that it has been half a year since he started living in LeitMeritz, so as of now it has been a whole year since Vol.1?
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2012-11-22, 12:42 | Link #805 | |
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2012-11-22, 13:18 | Link #806 | |
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2012-11-22, 14:30 | Link #807 | |
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2012-11-22, 22:06 | Link #809 | |
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2) I don't really read that much than most people think, just weikipedia entries. I am also very surprised that Tigre (and his enemies) decided to go to war in the winter time, which is extremely dangerous even in the 20th century. Heck, the Nazis certainly learned it the hard way in Stalingrad. For all the factions to do a winter campaign is surprising, to say the very least. |
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2012-11-23, 06:18 | Link #810 | |
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The rations are miniscule. the cold will make the soldier loss morale and some even became sick. hunting prey will be hard. firewood and shelter are insufficient. |
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These conditions were favorable for a fight when not considering the Vanadis. |
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2012-11-23, 13:01 | Link #814 | |
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Eh, so far all the Vandris have failed on that mark, since they are willing to 1) march their army into another nation for a guy. (Think the political consequences of that. It would treason automatically in today's age) 2) Fight each other on the drop of a hat~ (EVA, Ellen and Mira all fail in this regard) Also, there is no evidence of the Monz of whatever's ability to work in the cold. I think the author just had no idea what medival winter warfare is like. That 50K troop really needed to be 100K (the rest being logistics, servants etc) |
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2012-11-23, 16:02 | Link #815 |
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Have you read it all?
The reason for Ellen to go to war is explained in vol 4 or vol 5. In vol 2 is also explained why would Ludmira go to war. And in the beggining of vol 5 is also explained why was she in the place she was in vol 4. And since she was there she may as well gain something, that something being Information and money. Every movement from part of the Vanadis, the King of Brune and even Ganelon and Ternadier has been justified. And explained, for the little things we dont know, I believe will be explained in the future. Now winter, not in everyplace winter is the same as in Russia, not in every corner of the planet you see snow. in vol 2 we understand that in Zhcted this happens. Now the greatest armys have collapsed before the weather because they were not prepared. Being one of the reasons of the collapse of the Nazis the rain of Autumn which made their campaign fall behind schedule. Therefore forcing them to a fight in winter. You say about the food which is a valid point, but they are in Brune and Zhcted. And numbers, of the army they have repeated we can call more troops but we will not. Why because the others have to protect the borders, and we must use more money and more food which we cannot affort to spend in great quantities in our march. Just enjoy the novel in real life wars have begun just because a woman or a man, so I dont know what do you find odd about that. Using reasons like that to begin wars over others things is the most old strategy of the book. |
2012-11-23, 16:11 | Link #816 | |
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It is actually Ellen+Lim+Tieta vs Regin vs Mira Vs Who know which other Vandris decide to join the party. Ellen claim him and been teasing Lim about "since you know about his body already", and suggested if Tieta want to be a mistress XD. Alexandra is a maybe, since she is too sick to do anything to get into the story that might make sense, perhaps she will perish this winter? Sophie seem to be the big sister type who wouldn't come to steal from Ellen. Eva shouldn't show up...I hope. Is Olga the scythe girl by default? If so, she might join the party ^_^ |
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2012-11-23, 16:40 | Link #817 | |
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Mira's reason is sound...but only to show how weak Zetchd as a kingdom. In the battle of Dinmant, only one Vandis and 5K troops were used. Out of...at least by my estimate at least 35K troops (assuming each Vandris has at least 5K each). So we have a king who is paranoid at home with a band of underage teenagers commanding armies. He showed no leadership and terrible judgment when: 1) Accurately deploy his army in the face of a invasion, by having Ellen take on 5v1 odds while the other girls sat on their pretty behind. Magic weapons or not, if one Vandris can wipe out 1000 men, then there would still be a 20K+ to spare. If Brune's army was not so terrible, it would had been a win on their side. Dragon Tool or not. 2) Allow Ellen just marched off with his army for no reason other than so called "employment", especially since Tigre is not anywhere near as powerful any of the villains. 3) Then there is Ludmira, who decided to march her army against an general (Ellen) in the same kingdom by foreign influence. Imagine the U.S Navy, at the temptation from China, decided to beat up a hated rival (See: Army), the general responsible would had been lined up and shot. So what she did was outright TREASON, an major acts of bad judgment, or just just a teenage pissing contest that should been settled in a locker room rather than wasting blood and treasure in a full army move. Regarding winter, the question is how mild. There were certainly snow, and logistics would been poor. If this is a fictitious western europe, then it would be unpleasant anyway. (If nothing else, soldiers would need to dress warmly), and food would be tough to find. Unless you are battling in Florida, this is definitely an hindrance. And you are right war over women (not heard of a man yet) had happened before (but it never ended well), but it show grave judgement on the Kingdom of Zetchrud and the Vandris system. The story is certainly not bad and the girls are definitely easy on the eyes. But it is definitely fun to nitpick if this is put into a real historical prospective. |
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about the battle I believe that when Ganelon / thenardian removed his army he created a hole that allowed Ellen move Forward and win , at least that was the image I saw how the battle happened after discovering certain events explained in volumes 4-5 Quote:
BRUNE- > Elizavete CITY-> osmultz (ludmira )-> MAIN CITY. (remember that ellen's place and tigre's place is separated by only one mountain) the path is expensive and they will need protection all the time it is extremely difficult to send troops to protect the road because they might think that it would be trespassing, so she would need the help of brune or conquest alsce. Quote:
in ludmira case she was thinking the same as ellen's army in the begginer that ellen was fallen in love with tigre so was helping him,for her that have a high pride as vanadis help someone ,and someone from another country because she was in love, was unacceptable if you add that thenardian or ganelon use the conection with her and paid her to move all became clear. Quote:
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2012-11-24, 13:48 | Link #820 | |
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And a main character dies it actually adds some realism to it. It shows that literally anything can happen in the story, even main characters dying, and also possibly betrayals etc |
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