2008-07-04, 03:36 | Link #3081 |
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He is a complicated character that you usually don't see. One with good intentions, unable to forgive acts of violence and is willing to fight back to stop it(total hypocrite), and twisted by the "evils" of war.
Also i can't help but feeling that when Suzaku discovers that Lelouch is Zero again, on some sort of broadcast throughout Japan that he will reveal that Zero is a brittanian prince and create complete discord throughout the Black Knights. |
2008-07-04, 03:39 | Link #3082 | |
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2008-07-04, 03:42 | Link #3083 | |
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2008-07-04, 04:25 | Link #3084 |
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My problem with Suzaku is that he's been ordered by the Emp to kill zero, yet has passed up the opportunity on at least 3 seperate occassion's. He's not very good at following orders anymore that boy.
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Saying that Suzaku can't act on his beliefs because he is a soldier is entirely contradictory to views held by Suzaku supporters; namely, that he joined the army to get into positions of power. He might not be a Knight of One, but Suzaku is at least in the ballpark. That's more than enough power for almost anyone in Brittannia to start flexing their political muscle. But if Suzaku can't even do what he can with the level of prestige he currently has, then it is obvious he is never going to go anywhere. There is no room for anymore excuses; Suzaku either start the ball rolling and prepare for his "great plan" right now, or it is never going to happen. (Unless you think Zero is a muscle-bound superhero and that Nunnally is a Knighthmare pilot, I am not using the alternative universe Manga example to discuss TV characters.)
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2008-07-04, 08:15 | Link #3086 | |
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2008-07-04, 08:19 | Link #3087 | |
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2008-07-04, 08:36 | Link #3088 | |
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Also i thought he agreed to it before she mentioned Euphie's name. When she announced it on TV he seemed shocked but when she revealed it goals he smiled as if it was a confirmation that Nunnally believed Euphie was not wrong. |
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2008-07-04, 09:25 | Link #3089 | |
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Being the Knight of One still doesn't allow the Japanese self rule, where did you get that? It is not an indirect rule because Britannia is still calling the shots, there are boundaries that the Governor General can't cross. Remember, Euphie had do give up her rights to the throne just to set up a tiny area where the Elevens can have equal rights. Which the ruling body of Britannia or the Emperor can dissolve if it suits them. And sure Suzaku would be a more lenient governor then the others but still doesn't change anything, what happens when he is gone? Suzaku is trying to "change the system from within", he may not be trying to abolish the Imperial system but what he is doing is essentially harder then breaking it apart. He needs more then the authority of the Knight of One to accomplish this, like support from the ruling body and maybe even the power of the Emperor. And yet, Vallen Chaos Valiant summed it up nicely, he has done nothing so far other then say that the Japanese doesn't need Zero because he will become the Knight of One. Noone is saying Suzaku isn't a respected figure in Code Geass, although I would say that the general public, the people that don't know him personally only really respect the title of Knight of Seven. He has only said it so far though, I can say I want to work my way up to being a game designer so I can work on my own game, but if I don't have a publisher interested in funding me or much of a concept and planning I wouldn't get very far with it. Yes, he has told us very blatantly that he wishes to be the Knight of One, so how is that going to help the Japanese? What is he going to do to change the system to make it more tolerant of Numbers? What has he accomplished so far? |
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2008-07-04, 09:27 | Link #3090 |
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In terms of administration, Suzaku is hardly an expert. From what it seems, Nunnally is not doing a bad job, despite being sworn in for a few eps.
He belongs in the field, not behind a desk.
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2008-07-04, 17:59 | Link #3092 |
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Are you sure? I though he was just caught off guard by Nunnally's announcement of a new SAZ, given what happened the first time. He seemed touched that Nunnally was willing to carry out Euphemia's last wish. Nunnally shares the same dream of changing Japan peacefully. I don't know much Nunnally or Suzaku have done for the Japanese, but I assume their doing something. At the very least, we know there is peace in the Area.
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2008-07-04, 18:07 | Link #3093 | |
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When you only have those who were already willing to bow down and grovel, it's not much of an accomplishment that you keep them in line. I might be wrong about who Zero took with him though, but they said the number was like one million, right? I'd assume thats mostly Japanese. |
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brittannia has a ruling body??? i've always thought it was a dictatorship btw...can you tell me what makes you think suzaku is corrupt or explain what you mean by corrupt? i'll agree that he has changed... Quote:
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2008-07-04, 18:39 | Link #3095 | |
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As I said Charles may not care, but there are others in the government that do. |
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2008-07-04, 19:03 | Link #3097 | |
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I never said Suzaku is corrupt, far from it. You have to abuse your power in some way to be corrupt, Suzaku has not excerised his at all except during the Million Zero incident, he was even reluctant to sign a death warrant on someone that tried to kill him and had a 15 year old uninvolved girl do it for him. So, no, I don't think he is corrupt at all. |
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2008-07-04, 21:47 | Link #3098 | |
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Knight of One, who knows how much power he has. I'm sure in certain situations, he'd probably have more command power than most Royals. As being Governor is a reward for being Knight of One, the Emperor would allow him to manage the Area without too much interference from his children, I think. Charles respects those who are strong. As the strongest Knight of the Empire, Suzaku (if he ever bcame KoO) more than likely would be given full authority within the area, unless the Emperor tells him otherwise. Who's really going to question Empire's Strongest Knight? Last edited by Dyllani; 2008-07-04 at 22:10. |
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If the Knight of One really has more authority then Royals then why didn't Guinevere speak with more reverence to him rather then like she was speaking to a subordinate, and why did he have to remain standing while the other Royals were lounging and talking casually. Britannia is very focused on status and the adherence to it, if the Knight of One really did have a higher status then the Royals then they would have been more respectful towards him. Euphie mentioned that she wanted to create the kinder and gentler world that Suzaku and Lelouch want, and Cornelia cautioned her by telling her that her wish would lead to the throne because she would need the power of the Emperor not the Knight of One. Governors still have boundaries and rules they have to adhere to, they are still part of Britannia and have to follow what they say. Being able to be the Governor is the reward for being Knight of One, not being able to manage that Area free from Britannia rule. Whatever the case is the Knight of One still only has the authority of a Governor within that Area. |
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