2012-07-11, 09:12 | Link #161 | |
The Lovable SuBiTA
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Do they still have the Sumika roles comparison of in ML:Extra, "Childhood friend Takeru cannot imagine being without" vs her role in MLA? Spoiler for dark humour:
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2012-07-11, 09:41 | Link #163 |
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They probably kept it despite the sex scenes and Miki being a "loli" because the fandom is too large and vocal and the franchise is too "tropheriffic" for them to simply nuke it off the site like they did for Kodomo no Jikan and Astarotte no Omocha.
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2012-07-11, 10:11 | Link #165 | |
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One thing that make me wonder is that the Funny page,Heartwarming page and the Crowning Moment of Awesome is so short....I mean,the series is old...right? |
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2012-07-11, 10:15 | Link #166 | |
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2012-07-11, 13:30 | Link #167 | ||||
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Haha. I can't agree more with you on that. She's bro-tier like Mitsuki, and their overall personality overlaps with each other. lol. Some guys in /m/ showed some screenshots that they're working on it. Problem is that we haven't heard much since then. I love that song so much. It's even named after her... *hugs knees and cries at the corner of the room* Quote:
Wut? You haven't read the novels and you spoiled yourself by going to the tvtropes? I'm sorry to bear the bad news, but you won't get to experience the main trilogy at its best anymore. D: ML is one of the novels that you must read without prior knowledge regarding the main events in order to fully appreciate it. Quote:
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2012-07-11, 22:40 | Link #169 | |
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Looking at some of the core themes of the the novel SST is really a political piece. It's very much a discussion on Meritocracy with arguably one of the core themes of the novel being that universal democracy might well bad idea. The war is almost a secondary thing; an more excuse to talk about this point and discuss duty and social obligation, which are the other big themes of the novel. Even the characters aren't really the focus at all, personal relationships don't drive anything, the hero is just a cog in a machine ultimately unimportant to the war as a whole. The book doesn't even really end with any kind of resolution of the war. The message and themes of the novel have virtually nothing to do with what we see in Muv-Luv. The political situation is simply glossed over or blithely assumed to function more or less like the present day despite the radically different history. If the story actually heavily focused on the changes to society as mankind completely mobilized, how unending war shaped politics, the morals of forcing service, etc maybe the comparison would be more apt, but mostly the comparison seems to amount to "they called the aliens bugs in the novel and they lived in tunnels". Even the bugs themselves aren't really the same the "bugs" in the novel were a collective of a sort but they were intelligent, tool using, and had a working society of their own. They weren't mindless animals, but they thought in a different way then humans did and focused on the good of the group over individualism. They were effectively a fairly clear allegory for communism and also an attack on it functionally saying "for this to work you need to have a completely alien mindset". There is no particular political message behind "chomp". Muv-Luv is a functionally a straight war story hero gets dragged into war (against his will of course, another key difference), has to undergo some trials, makes some friends, storms the enemy stronghold and defeats the enemy. It's done rather well and it's somewhat bloodier then most, but at the core it's pretty much just well done genre fiction. It doesn't really have a message or address any particularly deep or controversial themes. That's not necessarily a slight against it as a story doesn't always need a deep "message" to be good, and indeed many suffer for trying, but Starship Troopers pretty clearly had one and it was a key part of the book. I don't really consider it to be in the same genre as Muv-Luv and aside from the very superficial "bug hunt" stereotypes I really don't see the connection much at all.
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2012-07-12, 00:10 | Link #171 |
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Err, if anything, MuvLuv was directly influenced by Gun Parade March game.
It was a core hit during that generation of gamers, and when Muv-Luv first came out, that was on everyone's tongue. The entire situation of the world (Eurasia pretty much gone, Japan is the final defense, US is the least hit, military turn to trainig kids on robots to fight off the mysterious alien creatures that are impossible to communicate, etc), the parallel world view of GPM multiverse and how the protagonist and the heroine are key to the salvation of the parallel universes. Do these sound familiar to you? Because I'm actually describing GPM. It was under many criticism as "WTF? This is a direct rip off of that Playstation game" when the game first came out. Even though I love both franchise, the uncanny semblance is unarguable. (Not to mention there are many GPM fans in the MuvLuv dev team. ) MuvLuv was most likely influenced by GPM, which was possibly influenced by Starship Troopers, although unlikely.
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2012-07-12, 00:20 | Link #172 |
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considering that Age staff are mostly fanboys, I'm not surprised. lol. Didn't one of the tracks of Muv-Luv sounded similar to one of the themes of Starship Troopers? I guess they want to pay tribute to that one as well. XD
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2012-07-12, 01:38 | Link #173 | |
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... Although it was more of because of that I have nearly zero VN experience(Only played Katawa Shoujo...and only finished two of the heroines) It turns out that choosing the right choice is WAY WAY harder than expected... |
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2012-07-12, 18:43 | Link #177 |
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Are you asking us to confirm if its true? Hmmm... If it's answered, there's a possibility it will spread like wildfire in the anime thread. I'm not going to ruin the anime for you or the newcomers so I'll pass. I'll let someone else do that assuming they want to. lol.
Ah... such contradiction. On the side note, found this nice image. I guess the only thing that was missing was the comedy, huh? Last edited by Silvance; 2012-07-12 at 19:32. |
2012-07-12, 18:59 | Link #178 |
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It was also posted on /a/ but only yesterday. |
2012-07-12, 21:58 | Link #180 |
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