Claymore - Episode 11 Discussion / Poll

[zetsumei]

I really have to agree with Deathkillz here.

perfection = Teresa!!!

[khryoleoz]

Am I the only one whom Teresa captured by her more equitable sense of justice compared to others who are compromising, naively wooden or even twisted? Graceful yet strong she is, but the way she violated an imperfect code to exact wrath upon deserving vermin and protect an innocent and wield her strength to exert her will to fight the world to uphold it. That's where Teresa won me over. Hence Priscilla is 100 fold more unforgivable.

[Wake90]

Hmm... Google has failed me many times looking for episode 11. ne 1 have a link i could take for it?

[EasyPrey]

When Tressa died, my jaw hit the ground. I just did not see the sequence of events folding in that manor. That was a depressing moment.

Fast forward to now. Tressa is now magget food. Galatea is fit for human consumption.

However, there are differences between the two (other than beauty). Tressa (pre-Claire), did not think much. She just went and did her job ("Yes Boss"). Her favorite time was messing with town folk's minds ("if you do not pay, yomma may attack soon!"). Tressa did not appear to be more than just muscle in the eyes of the org.

In this episode, we see Galatea interacting with the org. The org's candor towards Galatea is completely different. This tends to suggest that Galatea is respected for her mind as well by the org.

-EasyPrey

[cf18]

I just want to congratulate myself for guessing it mostly right. Please carry on you Claymore lusting...

[NoSanninWa]

Originally Posted by cf18

I just want to congratulate myself for guessing it mostly right. Please carry on you Claymore lusting...

I noticed that post. I was rather impressed by your speculation actually.

[hollywoodlou]

Galatea is indeed hot...but Teresa's artwork is astounding. Too bad she had her hands (and head) cut off.

Sometimes I wished Teresa was Clare and the other way around, but then again I'm not Nobi, the creator of the series.

[cors8]

Originally Posted by hollywoodlou

Galatea is indeed hot...but Teresa's artwork is astounding. Too bad she had her hands (and head) cut off.

Sometimes I wished Teresa was Clare and the other way around, but then again I'm not Nobi, the creator of the series.

But then there wouldn't be any Helen/Clare moments...

[hollywoodlou]

Originally Posted by cors8

But then there wouldn't be any Helen/Clare moments...

you're right...

All this talk of Claymores in bathing suits is clouding my judgement.

[bkg9990]

OMG Ophelia <3333

I wanna see her :3

[IMSabbel]

Originally Posted by cf18

I just want to congratulate myself for guessing it mostly right. Please carry on you Claymore lusting...

It was so correct that i thought you read the manga and denied doing so in order to look cool...

[toxic_trance]

Subs are out ^_^

[zetsumei]

Originally Posted by toxic_trance

Subs are out ^_^

Haha~ was just about to post that. Damn you!

*Nvm you're 20min faster~ lol

[hollywoodlou]

Originally Posted by toxic_trance

Subs are out ^_^

thx tt! Looks like everybody's crashing the sub site!

[Westlo]

Just finished watching the sub, gets a 9 from me. Nice of them to expand a scene from the manga. First Miss Claymore and now Ophelia, can't wait for next weeks ep.

[thundrakkon]

So with this new direction and pact going, I am guessing that these 4 Claymore girls will either 1) start knocking off the top five Claymores in orderly fashion over time, or 2) gain more recruits amongst the top 5 to help them combat the organization.

From #3's, Galatea, demeanor and thought, she might be willing to eventually sway over to Clare's side.

Btw, Teresa might be gone, but she will never be forgotten. (Which makes me think that she'll come back in future episodes, in dreams, inspirations, or other illusionary methods.)

So does this mean now that Clare has a new method of increasing her strength? (ala semi-awaken mode)

[myopius]

Just a few minutes into this episode's torrent I was getting 200 K/s. <3

Very interesting. My speculation is that Clare will have more run-ins with these fellows, exchange information, and occasionally fight and conspire alongside them, but eventually they will meet various fates such as "fully" awakening or getting killed by the organization or (less likely) perhaps a very strong Awakened Being, over the course of the series. I totally look forward to it.

Galatea freaked me out when I saw she heard every word. But I don't think she's an enemy, or perhaps she just has her own motivations that may not necessarily involve her siding with the organization against Clare & co., because she clearly isn't being completely forthcoming with her handler, or whoever that guy is, about what was happening.

Most notable I think, beside the fact that she's not revealing to the organization that they're conspiring against it although she doubts they'll get very far: since Galatea sensed one turn into an awakened one, but then when she sensed it turn back had to explain it as a fluke, it seems she doesn't want that guy to know that such a thing occurred or that it's possible. Although I'm not sure how much she herself was learning as she overheard.

In other words, although clearly she now knows it and she knows the guy knows it since she overheard the conversation which talked about how those 4 were being set up to die (and she must realize that's the reason she was asked to watch over them), she doesn't tell him--because she doesn't want him to know that she knows. If he knew she knew already, then he would've just responded, "You didn't make a mistake, she just stopped her awakening" instead of accepting that "even she could make mistakes". Very possibly he already suspects from her words that what happened was a partial transformation to awakening that was stopped, but in either case he's willing to leave her with the belief that it was her mistake, because he doesn't want her to know.

Next episode looks interesting. And a bit dark (-er than usual).

So does this mean now that Clare has a new method of increasing her strength? (ala semi-awaken mode)

Not sure... Deneve only did it briefly, to heal her wound, and then reverted back to normal level immediately, to avoid the risk of not being able to go back. It seems like maybe Clare could fight at that level for short periods of time with sheer concentration, but there's a heavy risk of going out of control. I could be wrong though.

[Child_of_Sierra]

So now we have half-human half-youma half-awakened ones :P

At this point in time I'm siding with the organization's reason for desposing Clare and Co. cause what happened to them was unprecedented and totally unknown from any previous experience. The higher-ups must have viewed them as walking time bombs that had to be carefully disposed of.

Then again maybe Miria was just paranoid connecting their unusual awakening with the reason for their grouping. It could be as simple as their rebellious nature against authority that prompted the mission and the org was totally unaware of their condition. (if 4/47 can be half-awakened then maybe there are more than 4 and not all of them are killed cause they at least don't have authority issues?)

[Jerseykid]

I love little things like when Galatea turns around and senses someone sensing her. Really adds the depth I am looking for in an anime. Hope they can use raki more without him being a total whimp liability.

[FatPianoBoy]

Whoa... just when I was beginning to get a bit less enthusiastic over the prospect of more intrigue and mind games, this episode comes and whacks me over the head.
Frankly, this is the reason I'm watching Claymore; not the action. This was a sublime plot twist.

It seemed the man with Galatea did indeed know exactly what was happening. I would suppose that his presence is required as a failsafe: he keeps tabs on the battle and everyone involved to ensure that no one who is assumed killed disappears and comes back with a persecution complex. Notice he didn't leave until he found out for sure whether or not Deneve was alive. It would seem that I may have had him pegged wrong, though what I originally thought is still possible.
Kinda embarrassed that I didn't think that they had all awakened and managed to revert back. Although, I did at least get this much:

Spoiler for space:

Originally Posted by FatPianoBoy

Awakened Ones, however, are another matter. Provided there's no biological reason for them to require human flesh (if there is, then there isn't much to be done), the intelligence they possess may make them capable of such things.
I've seen it theorized elsewhere around here that, if a Claymore could release 100% of her Youki and still manage to revert back to human form, she would essentially become immortal from the anti-aging effects of the Claymorization and the fact that she runs no risk of becoming an Awakened One. Whether the organization would allow such a thing to exist, though, is something I can't even guess at.

Of course, now I can guess at whether or not the organization would sit idly by with these things roaming around
Miria seems to think they could awaken at any moment, but Deneve went over he limit twice and came back. Once may be a fluke, but twice leaves some room for doubt.
I suppose it isn't even worth predicting that they'll eventually have to fight all of the top five...

Man, this show just exploded with flavor.