2009-10-10, 12:23 | Link #161 | |
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S'pose we can't say for sure that he used to be a pirate or not though, cause we don't know much about him. =/ But you're right, I'm sure there's a reason Mihawk felt he needed to become the best swordsman.
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2009-10-10, 14:23 | Link #162 | |
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I dunno, I still sort of have the feeling that Mihawk is testing himself as much as he is testing Luffy. Remember how, just a few chapters back, we saw how he wanted to test himself against Whitebeard (or in his own words, guage the distance between them)? I'm getting a similar vibe from this encounter, but instead of challenging Whitebeard, he's challenging not only Luffy, but fate itself. He wants to be absolutely certain whether or not Luffy will be the one to rise to the top of the new age. Even if he doesn't see Luffy as a future rival as he does with Zoro, he still recognizes him as a true diamond in the rough, and is willing to witness for himself just how brightly he will shine...... |
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2009-10-10, 14:56 | Link #163 |
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While Hancock has been very impressive with her fighting abilities so far, a big part of the reason why she seems so powerful is because no significant character has actually attacked her yet. Smoker's main target in this war is Luffy, and his attempts to subdue him are constantly being thwarted by Hancock. Him being kicked and having his seastone jutte weapon destroyed only happened because he was caught off guard/wasn't focused on Hancock at all. I understand that Oda is trying to make Hancock look as formidable as the other warlords, but I think he could have handled this better. I want to see how she would fare when a competent fighter strikes her back. Unfortunately, this is probably not going to happen because Oda doesn't like to depict violence towards his female characters. Sadly, that makes his females always seem weaker, more fragile, and inferior in comparison to the males in this story.
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2009-10-10, 15:30 | Link #164 | |
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2009-10-10, 19:25 | Link #166 | |
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Boa is powerful enough as a user of both haki and devil fruit powers. With Haki Smoker can be hurt. I doubt she became as Shichibukai due to some employee standards. I believe it's unknown if any other member of the Shichibukai have haki abilities. Kuma deflected attacks with his paw abilities. I'm not sure if Jinbei uses haki in his fishman karate, or if he's just incredibly strong. I just find it annoying that just as things get picked up, the manga is taking a weeks break.
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2009-10-11, 10:26 | Link #170 |
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I saw an interesting debate developing up there, where someone had apparently noted that if a fight were to break out between Luffy and Mihawk, and Luffy were to win, that Zoro may lash out at Luffy.
I think that so far, Zoro has been shown to display a form of Bushido, and a few of the submissive characteristics that a Samurai traditionally showed to his lord -- toward Luffy. I believe that, should Luffy defeat Mihawk, Zoro would just take it as a sign that, as it should be, Luffy as captain is stronger than him, or at least at his level. From another point of view, I wouldn't be surprised if Luffy just makes it clear to Mihawk that should they fight, he would win, and then, in honour of Zoro's struggle, leave the fight open ended and run away. From a more exciting point of view, Zoro may, should Luffy defeat Mihawk, view Luffy as his new benchmark, and we would get to see the end of the original Zoro vs. Luffy. The third scenario is most anticipation, imho.
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2009-10-11, 10:43 | Link #171 | |
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By the way, I don't think Zoro is a good swordsman. He can't fight using a sword. He needs three swords to fight. You may say that it is his own style, but one thing is sure that if someone is not able to use one sword to fight against another one-sword fighter he is not a good swordsman. I mean swordsmanship and the Santouryou technique are different things. |
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2009-10-11, 11:06 | Link #172 |
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^You might want to talk to Miyamoto Musashi, the inventor of Niten Ichi-ryuu (Two Sword style), and one of the greatest swordsmen of all time. He might disagree with you...
That being said, Zoro defeated the legendary swordsman Ryuuma with just one sword...and he defeated Mr. 1 with just one sword. In fact, several of his battles end with him defeating his opponent with just one sword... In the end, it's not the number of swords that make a swordsmen, it is what the person does with the sword. |
2009-10-11, 11:14 | Link #173 | |
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In fact zoro has been using more that one sword style. In some attacks he only uses 2 swords. |
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2009-10-11, 11:30 | Link #174 |
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^^ Though once again and considered what you said, I'm not that serious that Zoro is a bad swordsman.
There are some fights Zoro made which prevail what I said in my previous message, like his fight against Captain Kuro's hypnotized two crew members. Zoro couldn't beat them if Nami hadn't thrown him his second and third swords. Or remember his fight with Arlong (I know Zoro was heavily injured that time), he again needed two more swords (which Yasoku gave to him). While fighting with Tashigi, he drew a second sword to best her. Scenes like those make Zoro look like he can't fight with a single sword. |
2009-10-11, 12:27 | Link #175 | |
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2009-10-11, 13:10 | Link #176 |
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Those cases were very mild. They pale in comparison to what I'm talking about. I'm waiting for Oda to show us a serious fight between a female and a male. For example, in the last chapter Smoker gave Luffy a really hard punch to the face (Chapter 559 - Page 12 - Bottom Panel). Would Oda actually be willing to have that kind of powerful blow being dealt towards someone like Hancock? I'm skeptical on this matter given his tendency to not depict that same level of brutality where his females are concerned.
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2009-10-11, 13:15 | Link #177 | |
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^He's willing to show a similar level of bruatlity (can't hurt the face (or the breasts ) too much though), but only when women are dealing the damage (like Miss Doublefinger shoving 'spikes' through Nami). As for Hancock, if she is really as high level as Sengoku and others have claimed, then she sould be able to defeat Smoker with little damage anyway, but your point still stands. Let's put her up against DoFlamingo or Marco and see what happens .
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2009-10-11, 16:36 | Link #178 |
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The question with Boa is , would smoker even be able to get hit a like that on her in the first place. Boa look like she is close combat expert i don't think there much chars that want to brawl with her. Also with her , certain moves turn you to stone. Oda made her close combat monster with haki and stone 1 hit moves. Kind of hard for someone to get into a fist fight with her.
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