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Avvesione · 2010-08-13, 12:25

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Yup, that's the only time when she actually said anything. I wouldn't be surprised to see her say something sometime in the future. Hopefully we get some Kuchinashi backstory like how she met Setsuna and Mio and formed their Girl Squad. Maybe it'd be when Blade goes to St. Rose Academy lol...

Magin · 2010-08-13, 12:26

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Originally Posted by Avvesione

Kuchinashi? Wrong reasons? There are no wrong reasons when it comes to Kuchinashi. =P

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And yes, there's absolutely something wrong with you when Kuchinashi clings to you and you try to push her away.... But hey, come on we're talking about a guy who's constantly wearing girls clothes and passionately cries out "Father" when seeing Blade whenever he gets the chance

Keep in mind, she's hugging him practically because she's saying he looks good as a girl... and I can't think of any guy in their right mind who would want to be told they look good as a girl

Yamada may be convenient for him, but Cruz still wants to start looking like a guy again... not that this will probably happen anytime soon, of course

Avvesione · 2010-08-13, 12:31

If looking like a girl would score me some points with Kuchinashi, I wouldn't mind. =P

I'm kinda wondering if Yamada has more than one set of Killer Girl clothes and Setsuna's panties. Hopefully he's not just wearing the same pair of clothes everyday... but then so is everyone else.

Ah, speaking out pairs of clothes, I wonder if Setsuna, Mio, and Kuchinashi will ever wear their Iron Mountain outfits again.

Ynot · 2010-08-13, 12:51

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Originally Posted by KaMi-ZeRo

umm, well, Kuchinashi actually speaked once, when she used her ultimate attack, "Lilith Temptation" in the Third Shelter

I already wanted to ask you which chapter because I just couldn't find or remember it, but then I realised I hadn't checked the raws! Guess that answers my question whether she couldn't or wouldn't talk. So does anyone know why she doesn't? Is it indeed just a gimmick or does it have some sort of reason? Or do we simply don't know?

Would be nice to have a short story about how Mio, Kuchinashi and Setsuna met. I'm sure it could be very funny.

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Originally Posted by Avvesione

I'm kinda wondering if Yamada has more than one set of Killer Girl clothes and Setsuna's panties. Hopefully he's not just wearing the same pair of clothes everyday... but then so is everyone else.

Well, he brought what seems to be a bag(the flowerprinted one) filled with pantsu with him in chap 63, so the most important parts are covered (they're Mio's but I'm sure she'lll lend some to her junior killergirl

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Avvesione · 2010-08-13, 13:29

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Originally Posted by Ynot

So does anyone know why she doesn't? Is it indeed just a gimmick or does it have some sort of reason? Or do we simply don't know?

There isn't anything really on why she doesn't use her voice but it's more of a running gag, I think. Her name (Kuchinashi) means gardenia (the flower) in Japanese. Kuchinashi can also mean "No Mouth". The gardenia is a flower known for its powerful yet pleasant scent. In Japan, the flower was used to create a yellow dye for clothes and stuff (explains the blonde hair). I'm not sure if the flower also explains the lace panties, though.

Ynot · 2010-08-13, 13:42

^ Interesting. Now that you've told me, I recognise it(kuchi-nashi). I didn't recognise Setsuna or Mio's name so I looked them up and Setsuna has "moment; instant" as a meaning which seems logical to me when taking her speed(she moves in an instant) in consideration. Can't find anything on Mio though. Do you know anything more about that, or is she simply the only one with a name without extra meaning?

Sekirei07 · 2010-08-13, 16:03

Maybe it has to deal with her fragment, when we breath out of our mouths we produce smells in our breath and her fragment deals with chemicals she releases from her body. So maybe to not mess up her fragrances she does not speak.

Or she holds back in order to surprise her enemies like she did with Blade and gang to force them to breath in the fragrance

Mio is like Moe in that it has 3 letters an M and a O? >.>

Avvesione · 2010-08-13, 16:44

^
Actually, I think Mio means "beautiful cherry" which explains her red theme (mainly hair). Not sure what explains her fragment or her rabbit/bear theme or when she becomes a cat (that bow of hers sure looks a lot like nekomimi) but maybe she just loves animals.

I kinda think it's funny how Kuchinashi's most powerful attack is "Lilith Temptation". We haven't had many biblical discussions lately but I thought we might wanna look back at the Bible to see if there are any clues we can find. Lilith is believed (according to Jewish folklore) to be the first wife of Adam (who was created alongside Adam) but refused to be subservient to him (she wanted to be treated as an equal). She left the Garden of Eden and became evil.

Anyway, I always thought there'd be a Lilith somewhere in Needless. The story of Adam, Lilith, and Eve would be interesting, I think. Furthermore, Lilith plays on the theme in Needless that women are bad/evil. Not sure why Kuchinashi has her most powerful attack as Lilith Temptation though.

Homura7 · 2010-08-13, 17:04

Maybe I'm the only one who thinks Riru is that Lilith, the evil wife. Afterall, Arclight calls her "his Eve".

As for why Kuchinashi's most powerful ability is named like that, I have the answer. Lilith also makes reference to the snake that tempted Eve to eat the Apple of Eden.

There's no way another Lilith exists, only Neuchwanstein was the only successful Eve. Remember Imai adapts each biblical reference the way he had planned, not as it's described in the Bible.

Avvesione · 2010-08-13, 17:10

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Yeah, I knew that. What I was wondering is what is Kuchinashi's connection to Lilith. She isn't one of the story-heavy characters in the series and is one of the funniest (if not the most) characters, so it's strange to see her with a connection to the Bible which has been shown to be very important to the overall Needless storyline.

Homura7 · 2010-08-13, 17:23

^Because she's so awesome

Oh, btw, I have a message for everyone. Tomorrow I'm going on a vacation and won't be home till saturday 21th. Don't worry, once I'm home I'll deliver the raw as soon as I can.

Avvesione · 2010-08-13, 17:27

Isn't there someone else who can get the raws off LW? I thought Kefit mentioned he had it, although he's been busy lately as well. Anyway, if no one gets it before then, it'll be out by the 21st for sure.

Leidolfr · 2010-08-14, 10:33

I just see Chapters 80 and 81 thanks to the web link YNOT has put us and I did not expect to see Eve, well ... what's left of Eve's body except his brain, because I was shocked, now just need to see more pass on, and it appears that Cruz knows who is this strange scientist who seems to know Gido time ago since he had a vision when he was in an operating room with Aruka (which she reneged on Cruz as a sister for not having fragment) and the strange scientist who had the open palm with a strange arrow turning 360 degrees.

kenjiharima · 2010-08-14, 10:40

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They also did that in the third episode of Needless+. Lemme take a quick screencap.

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After seeing this twice... anyone think Cruz is gay? Who wouldn't want to have Kuchinashi hugging you like that? =P

I wanted to post the more manga similar scene.

Cruz is not gay. He's gar for Blade.

Sekirei07 · 2010-08-16, 09:47

I am worried about Kefit, I sent in the finished scan 4 days ago and he has not posted or responded back to me...

Ynot · 2010-08-16, 11:21

^Can't you reach him through an instant messenger program, or write another mail simply asking what's up? He could always be having a hardware/provider problem. Anyway let's hope he's just busy and lost track of time.

Ca12nag3 · 2010-08-16, 17:34

Hey Sekirei07 you got any reason to be worried bro? I mean did he say he was ill, or that he would be on for sure in the last few days? Perhaps check with the other people of the group and find out wassup.

Avvesione · 2010-08-16, 21:39

Seems Kefit is alright. He posted chapter 79 just now!

http://pyupyu.wordpress.com/2010/08/...s-79-released/

Sekirei07 · 2010-08-16, 22:20

I am interested in what Strom was talking about, this whole "Miracle" thing.

Avvesione · 2010-08-17, 00:06

I find it interesting that Blade not only memorizes fragments but everything about people. That was shown on the 3rd page (in the thought bubble), plus the stuff about Kafka liking horror movies (as we saw in Needless Zero II). I guess that's why Blade knows everything about Strom and maybe Voras and Mengroze. I couldn't help but try to imagine what Eve's memory world would be like...

As for the miracle Strom is talking about, I think it maybe something like the Second? Seems like Overlord would be against having the Second around.

2010-08-13, 16:03	Link #5087
Sekirei07 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Houston Age: 36	Maybe it has to deal with her fragment, when we breath out of our mouths we produce smells in our breath and her fragment deals with chemicals she releases from her body. So maybe to not mess up her fragrances she does not speak. Or she holds back in order to surprise her enemies like she did with Blade and gang to force them to breath in the fragrance Mio is like Moe in that it has 3 letters an M and a O? >.> __________________ Pedo-Kuch approves

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Sekirei07 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Houston Age: 36	I am worried about Kefit, I sent in the finished scan 4 days ago and he has not posted or responded back to me... __________________ Pedo-Kuch approves

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Sekirei07 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Houston Age: 36	I am interested in what Strom was talking about, this whole "Miracle" thing. __________________ Pedo-Kuch approves

2010-08-17, 00:06	Link #5100
Avvesione Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2009	I find it interesting that Blade not only memorizes fragments but everything about people. That was shown on the 3rd page (in the thought bubble), plus the stuff about Kafka liking horror movies (as we saw in Needless Zero II). I guess that's why Blade knows everything about Strom and maybe Voras and Mengroze. I couldn't help but try to imagine what Eve's memory world would be like... As for the miracle Strom is talking about, I think it maybe something like the Second? Seems like Overlord would be against having the Second around. Last edited by Avvesione; 2010-08-17 at 01:55.

2010-08-13, 12:25	Link #5081
Avvesione Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2009	^ Yup, that's the only time when she actually said anything. I wouldn't be surprised to see her say something sometime in the future. Hopefully we get some Kuchinashi backstory like how she met Setsuna and Mio and formed their Girl Squad. Maybe it'd be when Blade goes to St. Rose Academy lol...

2010-08-13, 12:31	Link #5083
Avvesione Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2009	If looking like a girl would score me some points with Kuchinashi, I wouldn't mind. =P I'm kinda wondering if Yamada has more than one set of Killer Girl clothes and Setsuna's panties. Hopefully he's not just wearing the same pair of clothes everyday... but then so is everyone else. Ah, speaking out pairs of clothes, I wonder if Setsuna, Mio, and Kuchinashi will ever wear their Iron Mountain outfits again.

2010-08-13, 13:42	Link #5086
Ynot Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2010	^ Interesting. Now that you've told me, I recognise it(kuchi-nashi). I didn't recognise Setsuna or Mio's name so I looked them up and Setsuna has "moment; instant" as a meaning which seems logical to me when taking her speed(she moves in an instant) in consideration. Can't find anything on Mio though. Do you know anything more about that, or is she simply the only one with a name without extra meaning?

2010-08-13, 16:44	Link #5088
Avvesione Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2009	^ Actually, I think Mio means "beautiful cherry" which explains her red theme (mainly hair). Not sure what explains her fragment or her rabbit/bear theme or when she becomes a cat (that bow of hers sure looks a lot like nekomimi) but maybe she just loves animals. I kinda think it's funny how Kuchinashi's most powerful attack is "Lilith Temptation". We haven't had many biblical discussions lately but I thought we might wanna look back at the Bible to see if there are any clues we can find. Lilith is believed (according to Jewish folklore) to be the first wife of Adam (who was created alongside Adam) but refused to be subservient to him (she wanted to be treated as an equal). She left the Garden of Eden and became evil. Anyway, I always thought there'd be a Lilith somewhere in Needless. The story of Adam, Lilith, and Eve would be interesting, I think. Furthermore, Lilith plays on the theme in Needless that women are bad/evil. Not sure why Kuchinashi has her most powerful attack as Lilith Temptation though.

2010-08-13, 17:04	Link #5089
Homura7 Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2009	Maybe I'm the only one who thinks Riru is that Lilith, the evil wife. Afterall, Arclight calls her "his Eve". As for why Kuchinashi's most powerful ability is named like that, I have the answer. Lilith also makes reference to the snake that tempted Eve to eat the Apple of Eden. There's no way another Lilith exists, only Neuchwanstein was the only successful Eve. Remember Imai adapts each biblical reference the way he had planned, not as it's described in the Bible.

2010-08-13, 17:10	Link #5090
Avvesione Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2009	^ Yeah, I knew that. What I was wondering is what is Kuchinashi's connection to Lilith. She isn't one of the story-heavy characters in the series and is one of the funniest (if not the most) characters, so it's strange to see her with a connection to the Bible which has been shown to be very important to the overall Needless storyline.

2010-08-13, 17:23	Link #5091
Homura7 Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2009	^Because she's so awesome Oh, btw, I have a message for everyone. Tomorrow I'm going on a vacation and won't be home till saturday 21th. Don't worry, once I'm home I'll deliver the raw as soon as I can.

2010-08-13, 17:27	Link #5092
Avvesione Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2009	Isn't there someone else who can get the raws off LW? I thought Kefit mentioned he had it, although he's been busy lately as well. Anyway, if no one gets it before then, it'll be out by the 21st for sure.

2010-08-14, 10:33	Link #5093
Leidolfr Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Spain/España	I just see Chapters 80 and 81 thanks to the web link YNOT has put us and I did not expect to see Eve, well ... what's left of Eve's body except his brain, because I was shocked, now just need to see more pass on, and it appears that Cruz knows who is this strange scientist who seems to know Gido time ago since he had a vision when he was in an operating room with Aruka (which she reneged on Cruz as a sister for not having fragment) and the strange scientist who had the open palm with a strange arrow turning 360 degrees.

2010-08-16, 11:21	Link #5096
Ynot Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2010	^Can't you reach him through an instant messenger program, or write another mail simply asking what's up? He could always be having a hardware/provider problem. Anyway let's hope he's just busy and lost track of time.

2010-08-16, 17:34	Link #5097
Ca12nag3 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2009	Hey Sekirei07 you got any reason to be worried bro? I mean did he say he was ill, or that he would be on for sure in the last few days? Perhaps check with the other people of the group and find out wassup.

2010-08-16, 21:39	Link #5098
Avvesione Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2009	Seems Kefit is alright. He posted chapter 79 just now! http://pyupyu.wordpress.com/2010/08/...s-79-released/