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As for Ea, it cannot be spammed in quick sequence from what I understand, it does have some charge time to be able to release Enuma Elish, doesn't it? So the idea was basically, have it be forced on Ionian to destabilize it, leaving Gilgamesh open to be overwhelmed by EMIYA's UBW which would not be affected by Fragaranch (he's not going to be using his strongest attack, unless the definition of strongest attack is very strange for EMIYA since he doesn't have a regular NP) nor would it be destabilized since he's not casting the actual marble but using it to spam weapons. My thought process is that, if Ea can be distracted for just long enough, then EMIYA will have the opportunity to overwhelm Gil with UBW vs. GoB, and get close enough to overwhelm him in melee. Quote:
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2011-12-21, 17:45 | Link #3984 |
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Ah, that's right. I guess that must have kept him busy for quite a while. You know, it sounds like it would make one hell of a spin-off series. Gilgamesh and his wingman Kotomine traveling the world and trying out every kind of pleasurable activities. I'd watch it.
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2011-12-21, 20:25 | Link #3988 | |
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Even Saber with Avalon would likely lose if Gil was truly taking her seriously, and certainly if he knew she possessed it. Yes, but Archer is much stronger than Shirou. Even at only 10% or so of his true power, he was still equal to or better than him. |
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2011-12-23, 03:14 | Link #3990 | |
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2011-12-23, 11:35 | Link #3991 | |
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If Gil doesn't use it off the bat and allows Archer to overpower him with UBW or to cast UBW in its full, then he'd probably lose much the same was that he lost to Shirou. But that's not serious!Gil. The Fifth Grail was is really mucked up though and the routes have varying power levels to your servants because of all the servant/master switcharoos going on. Rider is pathetic in Fate/UBW, Lancer is handicapped through every single route, Archer doesn't use UBW for some baffling reason in Fate route or just gives up on his goals in HF, Shirou keeps Saber from being good in half of the encounters, Assassin isn't even a real Servant, and on and on. If you take the servants at their peaks, though, you'd have probably had a lot of strong contenders and a very interesting war.
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2011-12-23, 13:31 | Link #3993 | |
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Bazett and Lancer Rin and Archer Ilya and Berserker Sakura and Rider (??)Caster's Original Master and Caster + Assassin Shirou is technically a magi, albeit a weak one and he can't bring out Saber's true potential...
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2011-12-24, 23:56 | Link #3997 | |
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Now let's get real, guys. If Gilgamesh had taken the war seriously, it would be over in a day. Archer can try all he wants, but he'll never able to stand a chance against a real serious Gil. Unless he's a Counter Guardian and that's not even him, but Alaya's will...
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FSN has Illya, Bazett, Rin, Zouken, and the original Master of Caster (someone from the Clock Tower I think). Kotomine's on both. Guess you can combine them in an AU game: Kiritsugu or Illya, Kayneth, Zouken, Tokiomi or Rin, Kotomine, Bazett and Original Master of Caster. Waver, Shirou, Sakura, Uryuu, Kuzuki, Shinji, Kariya, etc don't quite qualify because they are either terrible/n00b magus, muggle or half/badly-trained (some with great potential like Sakura wasn't given the push Rin got).
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2011-12-26, 21:30 | Link #3998 |
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Sakura would be a reasonable master if she didn't have the worms inside her and if she had any will to fight. And, honestly, neither Rin nor Ilya really count as "legitimate magi", as such (especially if you're claiming that Waver isn't). They lack the personality, experience and knowledge.
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2011-12-26, 21:37 | Link #3999 |
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I don't think Ilya lacks the knowledge (she can tap into Justica, after all, unless by knowledge you mean range of spells) nor the personality (as long as she has Berserker, and when it doesn't involve Shirou), as shown when she dispatches of Shinji without batting an eye. Experience, yeah she's missing that.
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2011-12-26, 22:03 | Link #4000 | |
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Sakura could have had the advantages Rin counted on to be among the group, but sadly I couldn't count her for those reasons you mentioned (the worms and her unwillingness to fight). Had she given an equal upbringing as Rin, then she would be a great Master too. The problem is that she's either crippled by something or too hax (as Dark Sakura).
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