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View Poll Results: Critique of Episode 15 | |||
10 out of 10: Near Perfect... | 45 | 24.86% | |
9 out of 10 : Excellent... | 46 | 25.41% | |
8 out of 10 : Very Good... | 49 | 27.07% | |
7 out of 10 : Good... | 24 | 13.26% | |
6 out of 10 : Average... | 6 | 3.31% | |
5 out of 10 : Below Average... | 1 | 0.55% | |
4 out of 10 : Poor... | 5 | 2.76% | |
3 out of 10 : Bad... | 2 | 1.10% | |
2 out of 10 : Very Bad... | 1 | 0.55% | |
1 out of 10 : Tortuous... | 2 | 1.10% | |
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2012-10-13, 16:18 | Link #101 | |
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but since this is a discussion forum, no harm in a little debate. And you completely miss the point of my post. Objectively, no trope is inherently good or bad, it all depends on the context and how well the execution is. Going by your logic, every story that is ever written is crap, because they all use one trope or another, and there is always someone out there who dislike a particular trope |
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2012-10-13, 16:21 | Link #102 | ||
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Personally, I'm sort of neutral on this element, just because I think it's a bit formulaic and obvious. But there are other things I like about the story that make up for this. It's okay if others don't feel the same way.
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2012-10-13, 16:24 | Link #103 |
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please, someone confirm that this "i love my onii-chan"-girl isn't replacing Asuna as the main heroine? that would really suck. who needs this love triangle?
not to mention this totally disgusting fiance-guy... apart from that, the glimpses of the new world look great, hope the new game starts in the next episode.
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2012-10-13, 16:27 | Link #104 |
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Quite a nice episode, I really love the new OP and ED, especially the OP.
Well, while Sugou is exactly that a**hole I expected him to be, it's the same for Sugu and her cuteness ^^ The kendo fight was just one thing...NICE. I really liked and it was quite well animated The surprising thing imo was the pacing, I expected the E-mail sth around 5 mins earlier, maybe the pace is really done well for the rest of the series And ofc the biggest change is the overall change in the mood, starting obviously from the OP everything (apart from that part with Sugou) is a bit livelier and maybe aswell friendlier, dunno how to make this clear but you simply feel the change in the mood ^^ |
2012-10-13, 16:29 | Link #106 | |
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2012-10-13, 16:31 | Link #107 |
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Hrm, so as I suspected, there are more worlds (well, at least one), to explore, assuming the OP and the picture of Asuna at the end of this episode can be taken at face value.
Some thoughts: * There are a number of things that I tend to feel uncomfortable about even after decades of watching anime, and this Japanese (or, at least, anime), fetish for brother/sister love is near the top of that list. Sure, he may technically be a cousin, but still. I realize the Japanese are about the most sexually repressed society on the planet, so I do try to make allowances, but ugh. I've always wondered if this is just a matter of cultural differences, or if it's pretty out there even in normal Japanese society. I've never been drunk enough to ask the few native Japanese people I've known these deeply intelligent questions. * Why do glasses always mean the character is disturbed in some way? * I hate elves, so I'm not too keen on all the elf ears in the OP. * I'm guessing the blonde girl in the OP is his "sister". If the creepy brother/sister love really is going to be a thing, then I guess we're in for a love triangle, especially if the rest of the season is spent on a search for Asuna, thereby giving the brother/sister love time to develop. Ugh. Oh well, I'm hoping for the best, but the cynic within me can't help but think this new arc is going to be inferior to the first 14 episodes.
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2012-10-13, 16:33 | Link #108 | |
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And on the topic of Asuna's current "damsel in distress" situation; if all she was created for in the first place is just be something for the hero to rescue, then I'd be pissed off, but she's proven herself to be a strong young woman in past episodes. Everyone has times they get into a situation they can't save themselves from, and Asuna is currently in one of those.
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2012-10-13, 16:35 | Link #109 | |
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[mod edit: removed hint about where the story is heading] Last edited by relentlessflame; 2012-10-13 at 16:39. Reason: No hints in episode threads |
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2012-10-13, 16:42 | Link #111 | |
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On another note, I don't know what Sugou was like in the LN, but the way he's being presented so far makes him look very stupid. While it's often best to tell the truth to a certain degree even when you're the villain, there are times when painting a completely different picture is quite useful. While Kazuto probably wouldn't buy it, it may have been better for Sugou to tell him that Asuna and he had had a great relationship before SAO, emphasizing the fact that Kazuto's relationship had been built around an environment and lifestyle that's nothing but fantasy and all the ways Sugou could make her "happy". If he'd painted a good enough picture, he may have gotten Kazuto to doubt himself when it counts. It's just not smart to tell the guy that his plans are all for personal gain without regard for Asuna's feelings, and that the plan would immediately collapse if Asuna were to wake up and speak her own mind. Instead of telling Kazuto that he's already lost and admitting defeat is best for everyone, he actually told the guy that the girl's been caged and he has a specific length of time in which to free her. What kind of villain actually tries to get the hero to fight? |
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2012-10-13, 16:45 | Link #112 | |||
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So Kirito treating it as though it means he can never be with her, as well as the whole situation (beyond her simply having an arranged fiancée) is probably the single weakest plot point the author's come up with in the entirety of the series. It's really just best to ignore it as much as possible. Quote:
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2012-10-13, 16:45 | Link #113 |
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The better, this anime gets, the harder it is to wait 7 days for the next episode. God dammit!
New OP 1+ Developing story 1++ New ED 1+++ As a novel reader, its interesting to see, how things are shown in the anime. Im not disappointed! And it has been a while, i liked an ED. Someone certainly must recreate Kirito's pc wallpaper. I want it!!
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2012-10-13, 16:49 | Link #114 |
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Great episode. Suguha is so lovely, Asuna being literally the "Sleeping Beauty" that may awaken with a kiss of the prince Kirito (that won't happen though ).
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2012-10-13, 17:03 | Link #115 | ||
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I suppose the easy answer is "one who foolishly thinks he's unstoppable". I agree with you that he definitely seems not too bright, despite being in research. I guess working on this VR stuff drives people crazy.
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2012-10-13, 17:13 | Link #116 |
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valid point except once he's married to her he becomes the heir to the company, the main reason he's marrying her, and doesn't need her anymore and can just kill her and blame the nerve gear n heathcliff(forgot his real life name). so in truth kirito has one week to save asuna's life
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2012-10-13, 17:13 | Link #117 | |
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I don't have much of a problem with Sugou. He's just your run of the mill sociopath who somehow with a great career. Plenty of examples in the real world, though hopefully those are less involved with comatose teenagers. But what is wrong with Asuna's father? Let's say Sugou's great in both R&D and business. That he wants to inherit the company (despite Asuna having a brother) and is the most qualified. Fair enough. Let's say that for traditional reasons, it's necessary to welcome him into the Yuuki family. They can adopt him (which is what they do anyway). But why doesn't his eagerness to "marry" a comatose Asuna ring any alarm in her father's head? Why doesn't he decide Sugou should in no circumstance be allowed to be alone with her? |
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2012-10-13, 17:15 | Link #118 |
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A new change in the plot?! Man, I hope this ain't going to be like Guilty Crown where the later half of the show becomes crappy.
Interesting to see that Kirito/Kazuto actually retains some of his swordsmanship from the game. I hope they show what happened to everyone Kirito knew and not leave that information out of the plot because that would be disappointing.
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2012-10-13, 17:26 | Link #119 | |
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This episode certainly gave me a totally different feelings compared to all the previous episodes. I don't know whether its this episode that is slow or the previous one are just too rushed. This is not the SAO I knew but ahh I guess it's ok since it explained a lot about Kirito (or maybe i should call it Kazuto now) and this is suppose to be the start of an entirely new arc. The starting episode of this new arc doesn't give me the fantasy feeling that I had like episode 1 which I liked a lot. The new OP and EP are both very good song especially the EP which I find a lot better than the first EP. The second OP is good too but i still prefer LiSA work more than Aoi Eir mainly because its just too addictive. Last edited by relentlessflame; 2012-10-13 at 17:42. Reason: Removed reference to something you were spoiled about |
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2012-10-13, 17:30 | Link #120 | |
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