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View Poll Results: Macross Frontier - Episode 19 Rating | |||
Perfect 10 | 39 | 35.45% | |
9 out of 10 : Excellent | 37 | 33.64% | |
8 out of 10 : Very Good | 16 | 14.55% | |
7 out of 10 : Good | 10 | 9.09% | |
6 out of 10 : Average | 3 | 2.73% | |
5 out of 10 : Below Average | 0 | 0% | |
4 out of 10 : Poor | 2 | 1.82% | |
3 out of 10 : Bad | 0 | 0% | |
2 out of 10 : Very Bad | 0 | 0% | |
1 out of 10 : Painful | 3 | 2.73% | |
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2008-08-17, 02:48 | Link #281 |
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I liked the Ranka/Bresra scenes, and the concert. Everything else sucked, though I did like Alto trying to sneak into his own home.
Waiting to see President Glace get his brains splattered was fun. Though I wonder why they confronted Leon directly instead of attempting to warn Cathy's father first... |
2008-08-17, 03:07 | Link #282 |
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that picture of ranka a few pages back makes me want to kill myself. this ep basically made me want to stop watching the show. it highlights just how immature ranka really is. the way they drew her didn't help either. i think they made her look more loli to press a point.
hopefully she'll kick the bucket at the end. a character of her caliber deserves nothing less. its kind of hard to keep a character on for so long when a majority of your fanbase (estimated) HATES her. |
2008-08-17, 03:40 | Link #285 | |
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Whether the animation is up to par or not it's perfectly legitimate discussion, however this most likely is the wrong thread to do so. And most of us old timers are familiar with the animation process, thanks. LOL, there have been arguments about things like this a few months ago during the earlier episodes as we had discovered that Studio Nue had outsourced to several other smaller studios. (Most animation studios carry just an A and B team but from what I've seen it seems to have extended beyond that) Even if you prefer this topic to cease, it's still going to keep coming up so don't bother....if the mods deem it unappropriate, then they'll remove this discussion and place it elsewhere. If the discussions here don't suit your purpose then perhaps a more appropriate place for you is Macross World unless you have already visited that forum. No harm done...just providing options. --Lone Wolf 一匹狼 |
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2008-08-17, 03:47 | Link #286 |
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Ugh finally watched it with subs.
Not really an outstanding episode imho, but it provided the needed character development again. some insight in Mikhail, Alto's brother + past. And afcourse awesome footage of Klan and Mikhail on a date on 'Pier 39' Loved that shot ^^ Ranka got slapped it the face, could be a good start for her development (second, i mean third shot, or is it the forth already? ) Spoiler for for previeuw of ep 20:
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2008-08-17, 04:16 | Link #287 |
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Join Date: Jun 2008
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After watching the Sub version of Ep 19 finally I understand what I was misunderstanding about a few of the scenes. You bilingual peeps are lucky. While I still disagree with a few points I will concede others. I'm not going to bring it up again because this thread doesn't need anymore debate on it.
I have to be sympathetic a little with Ranka at the end though. She finally understands, at least to herself, why she is singing and is all pumped up to finally tell Alto her true feelings. Then bam lets rip that possibility to shreds. I really don't know how she could sing again with that kind of set back or at least sing well. I don't need to debate anything about Ranka again. This is just an observation about her and her simple one tracked mind. * insert obligatory bitch about her poor artist design here* Looking at Alto x Sheryl reactions I have no doubt now that she was not "being sick" and it was an honest embrace probably from her to him since we all know Alto is too much of a wimp and too dense to make any sort of move himself. I could be wrong. I was glad Michael said what he said to Alto because seriously any less brain cells and I think Alto would stop breathing. He's playing the dumb jock to a "T" which makes no sense with his skill set. I think they could have done a much much better job with his character than they have. I've seen no real depth from Alto in personality. He's very two dimensional. Unlike his past which is rather extensive. His personality should match his past somewhat which I feel it does not. I'm waiting for Brera to get a memory flashback hit to the head and suddenly realize Ranka is his sister and then take out Grace as he's really the only on I think with the physical strength and skill to do so. Cyborg on Cyborg... Fight! |
2008-08-17, 04:28 | Link #288 |
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Grace would probably kick his ass...until Ai-kun stomps her flat.
I don't really think it's bad animation with Ranka. Rather the artists take some liberities with her character when expressing her. They're having fun with her character in other words. Make her look a little extra goofy in one scene or another. And I like it when people show enjoyment through their work. I really hate Alto's brother. If he's so damn confident that The Stage is irresistable, why lie about their father being sick? Why use a sick woman to manipulate him? He's sleazebag through and through, and I hope Alto's dad kicks him out of the house when Alto finally comes back. |
2008-08-17, 04:32 | Link #289 | |
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2008-08-17, 05:52 | Link #290 |
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Hey in next ep preview Frontier will be gravely assaulted by the Vajra. Where do you think the Songtress of hope will be instead of preventing it to happen by using her songs? Would she actually just sulk in a corner waiting to be found by Alto and would he say smt like Hikaru did to urge her to sing for the sake of everyone? With a slap preferably.
Sorry Ranka, that's just my speculation |
2008-08-17, 05:59 | Link #291 | |
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Only Gar Bobby would be capable to go against that , since his eyes only set for Ozma
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2008-08-17, 06:09 | Link #292 | |
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Could reach seriously obvious comment, but wow there is a lot of Ranka dislike on the forum. Guess I didn't end up spending enough time in the Macross area to pick that up. Do like both Sheryl and Ranka who have problems that go above whether they are the ones to win the Alto sweepstakes. Do wonder about Sheryl's future since there doesn't seem to be a way to save her from dying fairly soon. Not to mention the connection to the Vajra Ranka has and the dangers that might pose to her. At least Mikhail and Klan are always a nice pair. Thank you Mikhail though for spelling things out for Alto. He must have been told the amount of episodes that are left and knew that if we waited for Alto this could turn into a very long series .
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2008-08-17, 06:16 | Link #293 |
Kira_Naruto, the ecchi
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What are the chance of Sheryl already told Alto offscreen? And that hug in the end is really a hug? Not because Sheryl faint or something? There's always a flash scene about it afterward with Alto chasing Ranka (with Sheryl's blessing) explaining the situation?
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2008-08-17, 06:30 | Link #294 | |
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After that, everything is open, if the president gets shot immediately. Could be instant chaos, then interrupted by Vajra attacks. |
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2008-08-17, 06:38 | Link #295 |
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I dont think president will die yet.. it would be a little win for that damn bastard Leon.. I think Ai and brothers save the president by starting the havoc first. XD
Wanting a full city destruction instead of one president dying.. I'm evil ._.
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2008-08-17, 06:39 | Link #296 |
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Finaly watch the gg sub, great ep, this forum is crazy i havent watch the ep yet but there is already nearly 300 post about the shippwars There is heavy crossfire between the Sheryl and Ranka factions while the Sheryls fans dominate, some slighty bad comment about either will get targeted by both sides
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2008-08-17, 07:28 | Link #298 |
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So, I finally got to see the episode with subtitles, and I am a teensy bit less annoyed at Ranka.
She clearly misunderstood Altos intentions and when she ran up those stairs, she wasn´t thinking that Alto was already awaiting her there all lovey-dovey, but rather she herself had finally worked up the courage to tell him about her feelings. Still, that was a weak-ass song before, and Sheryl still is miles ahead as a person. Hrm, one teensy detail I found annoying was that when Micheal was giving Alto his talk ( Michael really has become a neutral arbiter, btw... Klan is firmly in the Sheryl-camp however. ^^ ), gg translated one line as "But when she ( Sheryl ) learned what had happened, she became interested in your right away." I think they meant to say "...she became concerned for your right away." Right, Ickem? ^^ |
2008-08-17, 07:31 | Link #299 |
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I don't know about the president dying. If he does die then that would put Leon in charge and hence the preview scene for the next episode that shows the guards bearing their rifles on Cathy and Ozma. Or he could have been winged by the bullet due to some luck in which case Leon thinks he's won and orders the guards to take Cathy and Ozma into custody.
If the president is dead and Leon is brought to justice, what are the odds that Cathy, the president's daughter, runs for the office and becomes the new "president" for Frontier? |
2008-08-17, 07:32 | Link #300 | |
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