2012-09-01, 11:18 | Link #2961 | |
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So are the game spoilers real? Fo' real real?
They spoiled the whole thing in a ******* game!? I guess they really don't give a shit anymore.. Quote:
This is still a fictional story. Any story, regardless of genre, needs to be realistic (within the context of the universe) and most of all, believable. And of course the death of an importent character makes the climax even more exiting, but this should not be the motive to kill of characters randomly. It's not about which character dies or how many, but it's about how and why. A death scene in any kind of writing needs to be relevent in relation to the story and obviously, well written. it's equally important as the introduction of the character, if not more. Just like how a screenplay is divided into setups; characters, whatever they are flat or round characters they have character arcs. the last part of the arc can not end with: 'And then he just died!' Realism can not be an excuse for poor writing. I hope the Age writers get at least this one right.
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2012-09-01, 15:36 | Link #2963 | |
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As what I have read: -Fram still hopes Zeheart to change, sacrifices herself -Zanald is a bad guy -Obright SACRIFICES himself to save Diva -Seric told Natora to fire even he is on the line of fire They are all side characters. Motives are enough, but not too flashy. Do all characters need flashy deaths? Tell me a war related anime that has all characters dying characters has a flashy death. It depends if you think the writers have done right or wrong. Not all things will favor in the viewer's perspective, as it is a storytelling by the writers.
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2012-09-01, 17:47 | Link #2964 | ||
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And as for your question regarding 'flashy deaths' (whatever the f*k that means): no they don't have be "flashy", do they have to be relevant: Hell yes! If you still don't understand, read my previous post again. Quote:
The writers can write whatever they want. And we can say whatever we want about the writing.
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2012-09-01, 18:06 | Link #2965 |
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Well.. Writing is not the strong point of Gundam Age anyway. but it has it's good point too. And as far as the deaths are concerned I never really cared about those characters anyway, lol. My favorite character lives though! YAAYY!!;D
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2012-09-01, 18:20 | Link #2966 | |
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2012-09-01, 18:43 | Link #2968 |
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I personally think AGE isn't bad. I can say it would be on par (or above) with 00 or SEED (not Destiny), which is Good (or bad if you really have high standards). (Yeah, disregard my signature).
Knowing that this would be 49-50 episode anime which revolves around a 100 year war, I have already set my expectations that this would include several timeskips, inconsistent pacing, and few character development for side characters. Still. I think they have developed the main characters enough. Talking about how they executed the story, I think they took an unorthodox approach (3 generation), which apparently (or wierdly), still appeals to me. My only gripe with this series is the inconsistent animation quality. Some are bad (specially Gen-1), but others are really good (Zeydra vs AGE-2).
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2012-09-01, 19:53 | Link #2971 |
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All I ask is that characters remain consistent and that their decisions make sense when contrasted with their development throughout the series. Zeheart becoming a cheapo version of Giren, Patrick Zala, or Ribbons doesn't make any sense when you look at his development all throughout Gen 2. Hell that's just as bad, if not worse than Durandal in Destiny, that goes from being a decent, reasonable guy to a madman who goes around blowing shit with a giant laser including his own troops. The villains I mentioned earlier all used similar weapons, but they slowly got to that point, they made increasingly irrational and/or evil decisions. Let's look at Patrick Zala for example, he doesn't just go from loving father one episode to genocidal mad man...No, he starts out small, making comments here and there, then he escalates and escalates up until he ends up doing what he does at the end. Zeheart just goes from completely opposing Ezelcant to accepting to carry out his will and forsaking everything he stands for in the span of a couple of minutes.... That's as if Patrick Zala had gone from talking with Siegel Clyne about Naturals to blowing up his own troops with Genesis without lying to the counsil about Spritbreak, bulding the NJCs, arresting Athrun, assassinating Siegel and trying to do the same to Lacus in between.
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2012-09-01, 19:58 | Link #2972 |
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I don't think the war is going to last 100 years in the anime. what year is it in the anime right now? 165? You right about the episode count, I forgot that it wasn't shortened after all. (It was rumored to be shortened on 4chan)
@Revolutionist: Not sure about the Zala comparison. It's not that bad. Zala was mad because of the death of his wife (and he was a racist from the start anyway.) And Ribbons had some bug up his ass or something.. Zeheart is a better character than that. Last edited by Rickketik; 2012-09-01 at 20:10. |
2012-09-01, 20:03 | Link #2973 |
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If the spoiler about the Mars Rays shielding is correct then yes the war lasted 100 years. Keep in mind, though, that it's not been pure conflict for the 70 or so years the Vagans have been active--from what I understand there's a fairly sizable gap in hostilities between gen 2 and gen 3 due to the invasion plan. The war likely doesn't come to an official end until then, but a ceasefire agreement would mean that there's no major engagenments between the two after the La Glamis operation.
And am I the only one who isn't bothered by the route Zeheart's going down? To me it looks like he's letting the Gundam's power and Ezelcant's words go to his head, and his X-Rounder abilities probably aren't helping in that regard, looking back on all the other X-Rounders' reckless decisions and madness. It was bound to happen to him sooner or later.
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2012-09-01, 20:31 | Link #2974 | |
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But I'm wondering what really happens on the remaining 30 years? I guess it's ok for now since it can give room for a movie or another season (which I doubt because of the reception).
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2012-09-01, 20:43 | Link #2975 |
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Considering where Zeheart is going, he should be killed by one of his subordinates for being a giant tool. hell Flit, or even Kio would be better choice than Asemu, if the Super Pilot crap wasn't annoying already, I can't imagine after it happens.
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2012-09-01, 23:26 | Link #2976 | |
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For zanald, well whatever he should die one way or another (though this point makes him spying on Zeheart and Ezelcant's talk about Project Eden pointless.) Obright's death is the only one that is fine, kinda. Seric basically fights a giant eyeball, suddenly is disabled. And then what you said happens. It's not even known whether the Giant eyeball is blown up or not, he just suddenly disappears after the fight. |
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2012-09-02, 04:14 | Link #2979 | |
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I think people thinking that because Zeheart is honourable in some areas means he can't make mistakes in supporting a crazy like Ezelcant is actually the ones disconnected with how people REALLY works and trying to blame it as inconsistent characterisation is being naive.
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2012-09-02, 05:18 | Link #2980 | |
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Nobody else makes sense, or would be even remotely satisfying to watch in my opinion. |
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