(L) Coppelion [anime]

[rladls716]

So sad for the remaining survivals to become wolve's prey.

Hope this Taeko is okay.

[Random Wanderer]

Originally Posted by king12354

Melanin is supposed to protect against UV radiation so theoretically, they should be completely black . But of course, they have an invisible shield instead.

Releasing melanin is how our bodies react to damage from UV radiation in order to protect themselves from more damage. These girls don't take radiation damage at all, so their cells wouldn't produce the melanin to protect them from UV in the first place, because they don't need it. Whether or not their bodies are capable of producing it I couldn't say, but without the initial stimulus they aren't going to do so regardless.

[NoemiChan]

Originally Posted by Triple_R

Any normal human in this desolated city is going to need help. They're not going to be in any position to avoid potential help.

So clothing other than school uniforms should apply then....

Look at the condition of these roads. There's cracks everywhere. That would make it harder, if not dangerous, to ride a bike or drive a car.

I didn't know that you need a flat road to use a bike.

Plus, by going on foot they'll go slower and be less likely to miss anything.

Maybe but it saves more energy and a fast way to escape potential threat too.

[Soliloquy]

This anime feels like hits of nostalgia. It feels like old school anime and also Angela singing the ending theme, I do like it a lot. And I'm quite impressed by Haruka Tomatsu's range. I had no idea she'd hit that low range of voice and that Kansai dialect. It has pretty good introduction but I still don't really have too much impression on this anime.

[Reckoner]

Originally Posted by Triple_R

I have to disagree with Reckoner's criticism of the "kawaii" personalities. A show like this could get boring really fast without some colorful personalities to compliment the slow, meticulous pacing. And what's so nonsensical about their personalities? I'm sure there's real life Japanese girls like these three.

What's nonsense to me is the following.

Here we are presented with an apocalyptic setting.Tokyo is basically destroyed and uninhabitable by normal human beings. Seems deathly serious, and some of the content really is deathly serious, but now this has to clash with these girls who wouldn't seem out of place in your typical moe-centric series. Complete tonal dissonance, which to me takes away a lot of the impact of the setting.

I don't expect the characters to be deathly serious all the time or anything, but going full kawaii mode for most of the episode is a bit too much to stomach for me. This has nothing to do with realism or anything else.

[NoemiChan]

If I were to get a character from another anime that is more fit at this setup will be Relena of GW...

[Solace]

It's not meant to be realistic serious. This is not a full blown drama about nuclear fallout. That's probably the only thing that saved the anime adaptation from getting canned completely after Fukushima.

The trailer for this was extremely misleading. This is a slow paced, almost slice of life story, with some action later on. I'm not saying this to spoil anyone, just that I don't want to read pages of complaints from people who expect one thing and get another.

The author probably just wanted to write a story about three high school aged girls wandering a ghost city. This is just the setting that was settled on to accomplish that. Don't read into it anymore than you need to.

[Triple_R]

Originally Posted by NoemiChan

So clothing other than school uniforms should apply then....

There's nothing wrong with them wearing a school uniform if their bodies can withstand the radiation without wearing protective clothing, and clearly their bodies can withstand it.

What practical difference does it make if they're wearing civilian attire or a school uniform?

Good grief, man.

I didn't know that you need a flat road to use a bike.

A bike hitting a crack in the road could easily cause a serious accident.

So I see pros and cons either way here. Maybe they should have been given bikes, but I wouldn't consider this a fault in the show.

[Reckoner]

Originally Posted by Solace

It's not meant to be realistic serious. This is not a full blown drama about nuclear fallout. That's probably the only thing that saved the anime adaptation from getting canned completely after Fukushima.

The trailer for this was extremely misleading. This is a slow paced, almost slice of life story, with some action later on. I'm not saying this to spoil anyone, just that I don't want to read pages of complaints from people who expect one thing and get another.

The author probably just wanted to write a story about three high school aged girls wandering a ghost city. This is just the setting that was settled on to accomplish that. Don't read into it anymore than you need to.

I don't get how making this about life in a ghost city means it has to have serious mood whiplash. The character's actions don't really mesh well with what is being presented. I could care less about the action, that's not a primary concern of mine.

And who knows what the author really wanted. For all I know the editor told him to use high school girls because the source material wouldn't of sold for **** if they didn't try to pander to otaku's a least a little bit. Regardless, that's not my concern.

[serenade_beta]

Originally Posted by rladls716

Hope this Taeko is okay.

Whatever you do, don't watch the preview. Else your question will be answered.

[Random Wanderer]

Originally Posted by Reckoner

What's nonsense to me is the following.

Here we are presented with an apocalyptic setting.Tokyo is basically destroyed and uninhabitable by normal human beings. Seems deathly serious, and some of the content really is deathly serious, but now this has to clash with these girls who wouldn't seem out of place in your typical moe-centric series. Complete tonal dissonance, which to me takes away a lot of the impact of the setting.

I don't expect the characters to be deathly serious all the time or anything, but going full kawaii mode for most of the episode is a bit too much to stomach for me. This has nothing to do with realism or anything else.

I think it's supposed to be tonally dissonant. You're supposed to look at the girls and think "they do not belong there." That feeling of wrongness is part of the intended atmosphere of the story.

From a less meta perspective, Aoi is in denial about a lot of things. She's not even sure if she's a real person, and now here she's been put into a seriously screwed up situation. She's trying to escape it with forced cheer and denial. When that fails, she starts breaking down. That happens. It happens to real people as reactions to stress.

What it tells us is that these girls are not elite soldiers, or anything of the sort. They are simply what they appear to be: schoolgirls. Genetic engineering is not a magic "make the exact sort of person I want" button. The girls still had to have been born, raised, taught, trained. It seems fairly clear, with the possible exception of Ibara, that they have not actually gone through the sort of extensive training that should be required for this sort of job. I would say that, while they were created for use in this environment, they were not meant to be sent in yet. This is probably an ad-hoc mission, spurred by the sudden burst of SOS signals coming from the radiation zone. The messages caught someone's attention, so they grabbed the girls before their training was anywhere close to being complete, said "hey, you can survive in there, go find out what's going on" and pushed them out the door.

[Tenzen12]

Originally Posted by NoemiChan

Maybe but it saves more energy and a fast way to escape potential threat too.

You might not noticed it, but there was REALY BIG catastrophe and now whole area is infested by deadly radiation. Any "potencial threat" should be killed by it already. This is just slightly abnormal part time job, nothing dangerous.

...or at least it was supposed be like that.

Originally Posted by Triple_R

There's nothing wrong with them wearing a school uniform if their bodies can withstand the radiation without wearing protective clothing, and clearly their bodies can withstand it.

What practical difference does it make if they're wearing civilian attire or a school uniform?

Good grief, man.

And unlike western countries, in japan school uniform double as causal attire. Students will wear civil outfits mostly only on weekends and sometimes not even that.

A bike hitting a crack in the road could easily cause a serious accident.

So I see pros and cons either way here. Maybe they should have been given bikes, but I wouldn't consider this a fault in the show.

Bad quality of roads is one thing another is use of various equipment, radio and detectors. Best option would be probably some Quad, but I doubt girls have licence on such thing.

[Triple_R]

Originally Posted by Random Wanderer

From a less meta perspective, Aoi is in denial about a lot of things. She's not even sure if she's a real person, and now here she's been put into a seriously screwed up situation. She's trying to escape it with forced cheer and denial. When that fails, she starts breaking down. That happens. It happens to real people as reactions to stress.

Yeah, that was my impression too. That's not to say that Aoi isn't a naturally cheerful girl, but even if she is, I had the impression she was forcing it a bit here.

[NoemiChan]

Originally Posted by Triple_R

There's nothing wrong with them wearing a school uniform if their bodies can withstand the radiation without wearing protective clothing, and clearly their bodies can withstand it.

What practical difference does it make if they're wearing civilian attire or a school uniform?

Nice question. Why does it have to be a school uniform? Yeah, probably because they're genetically engineered students doing school stuffs for their Vice Principal who happen to be more or of a Military official... They should have given him a coat and tie to match the students.

A bike hitting a crack in the road could easily cause a serious accident.

I thought they're smarter than that. Maybe they don't know how to avoid a crack in the road.

So I see pros and cons either way here. Maybe they should have been given bikes.

Maybe. But seeing how BIG the city they're be checking, I don't see the reason why they don't need one. Maybe the author want to see the girls go sweaty most of the time...aka. fan service.....

Originally Posted by Tenzen12

And unlike western countries, in japan school uniform double as causal attire. Students will wear civil outfits mostly only on weekends and sometimes not even that.

So.... this is just a walk in the park? I get it now..

[funkyaristotle]

Just my two cents on the clothing issue

While i understand that the staff are trying to to emphasize dissonance between the characters and the background environment, it just does not work for me

People are usually better equipped for a hiking trip. If you are going to be wandering in an uninhabited hostile environment, you would at least wear some comfortable boots, warm clothing, rain gear, and a hat . At least something that shields them from regular weather and bug bites, not to mention radiation and ravenous dogs.

In any case, lets see how this goes. Keeping my expectation low though.

[RobotCat]

Unless they were yanked right out of school, it does feel a bit weird that they aren't wearing things like jeans/sneakers/t-shirt with jacket and have a complete outdoors backpack with all their equipment, extra clothes, food rations, etc.

[Reckoner]

Originally Posted by Random Wanderer

I think it's supposed to be tonally dissonant. You're supposed to look at the girls and think "they do not belong there." That feeling of wrongness is part of the intended atmosphere of the story.

I said as much earlier, but I think they went quite overboard with it. I didn't need to hear kana raving about food the entire episode.

From a less meta perspective, Aoi is in denial about a lot of things. She's not even sure if she's a real person, and now here she's been put into a seriously screwed up situation. She's trying to escape it with forced cheer and denial. When that fails, she starts breaking down. That happens. It happens to real people as reactions to stress.

What it tells us is that these girls are not elite soldiers, or anything of the sort. They are simply what they appear to be: schoolgirls. Genetic engineering is not a magic "make the exact sort of person I want" button. The girls still had to have been born, raised, taught, trained. It seems fairly clear, with the possible exception of Ibara, that they have not actually gone through the sort of extensive training that should be required for this sort of job. I would say that, while they were created for use in this environment, they were not meant to be sent in yet. This is probably an ad-hoc mission, spurred by the sudden burst of SOS signals coming from the radiation zone. The messages caught someone's attention, so they grabbed the girls before their training was anywhere close to being complete, said "hey, you can survive in there, go find out what's going on" and pushed them out the door.

Not going to deny what you're saying, we still have plenty to watch here and I am not familiar with the source material. To me it's a matter of degree. At a certain point, I just felt they were going overboard with the dissonance and it became distracting.

Furthermore, if her character has this false cheeriness the entire show, then what you say is going to ring quite false to me. I will say that the ending of the episode lends credence to this interpretation and it did give me hope that we were going to do away with this stuff... But I keep getting the impression that these girls might be exactly like the girls from zettai karen children and for me that's NOT a good thing.

There's still plenty of hook in the premiere of Coppelion, but there were just a few nagging issues to me that I hope don't stick around.

[Om Nerabdator]

Thats first episode was pretty damn entertaining, but i have one gripe.....Despite how short their skirts are and how windy it was.........WHERE ARE THE PANTY SHOTS!!!

[D-Joe]

Originally Posted by Solace

It's not meant to be realistic serious. This is not a full blown drama about nuclear fallout. That's probably the only thing that saved the anime adaptation from getting canned completely after Fukushima.

The trailer for this was extremely misleading. This is a slow paced, almost slice of life story, with some action later on. I'm not saying this to spoil anyone, just that I don't want to read pages of complaints from people who expect one thing and get another.

The author probably just wanted to write a story about three high school aged girls wandering a ghost city. This is just the setting that was settled on to accomplish that. Don't read into it anymore than you need to.

The trailer isn't misleading,the "slow paced, almost slice of life story" only on manga part 1(chapter 1-21),after that,it just start went crazy

[Solace]

Originally Posted by D-Joe

The trailer isn't misleading,the "slow paced, almost slice of life story" only on manga part 1(chapter 1-21),after that,it just start went crazy

We're not going to discuss the manga here, but I stand by what I said. Don't forget this is one cour, they can't cover too much unless they blaze through the material.

Which is possible. But if they can blow through 18 volumes of material in one cour I'll be impressed.