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2012-01-22, 10:04 | Link #442 |
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Hibiki was a nobody. Tsubasa didn't even know she was there during the attack. For two years she didn't know Hibiki's existence. That itself ruins your theory she blames Hibiki for Kanade's death. Tsubasa was surprised the Gungir was active while Kanade is still dead. It was explained a shrapnel that embedded at Hibiki's heart allows her to summon Kanade's symphogear. Tsubasa doesn't want to accept her. To do so in her eyes means Kanade is replaceable. |
2012-01-22, 11:36 | Link #443 | |
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But aren't we all making assumptions and theories? Unless the reasons come out directly from Tsubasa's mouth we are just throwing ''point of view'' opinions.
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2012-01-22, 12:37 | Link #445 |
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The writers are novices, but they don't want to be given a break or use that as an excuse.
..... I want to know how it is so far.
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2012-01-22, 12:53 | Link #446 | ||
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As Crimson Cloud says, she rarely treats "everyone" like dirt. She's a bit cold but professional and educate most of the time. Hibiki is the only one who pulls her emotional trigger. The fact that this is painfully obvious and the staff didn't move a single finger to solve this is what pisses me off xDU.
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2012-01-22, 12:53 | Link #447 | |
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Also whatever people think about Kanade in episode 1, I think the show already hit the mark if people keep discussing about it... |
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2012-01-22, 13:05 | Link #448 | |
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Later she learns pieces of Kanade's relic are inside Hibiki. This reminds her how powerless she was to save Kanade. Tsubasa pretty much has survivor guilt. Hibiki on the other hand was taught to be a survivor meeting Kanade. She is willing to fight Noise not only to protect those she loves but pay back those two whom she owes her life. |
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2012-01-22, 13:09 | Link #449 | |
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It is just too rude and selfish that she keeps putting HER problems, HER discomfort, and the inconveniences that SHE is experiencing above other people. "Aww, man. Essays are hard. How will I ever balance school with fighting the Noise?" How do you think Tsubasa has had it juggling a singing career, fighting Noise, and her intense grief (and partial self-blame) for Kanade's death for two years? "I have someone to protect, too!" This is literally the 2nd stupidest thing that came out of Hibiki's mouth, besides the "Kanade replacement" comment. "Wah, wah, wah, I wanted to go see the shooting stars with Miku! Rawr! Hibiki SMASH!" Um, what about Tsubasa, who won't be seeing anything beautiful with person she cared about most because she freaking died in her arms?
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Again, it's not that I don't acknowlege she has reason for being sad or angry. It's not that I don't think she lacks legitimate grievances with the organization. It's not even that I don't feel sorry for her. What I protest is the attitude that, because of all that, she can do no wrong and whatever she does to Hibiki, Hibiki had it coming. It's like catching a rapist and letting him go because he had a traumatic childhood and his victim dressed a bit sexy. Quote:
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2012-01-22, 13:31 | Link #451 |
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Yet they don't do a thing to achieve that solution. Tsubasa really needs help and all the other people on the organization do is turn their heads and look at something else until the moment to send her to the battlefield comes.
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2012-01-22, 21:52 | Link #453 |
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the commander looks stronger than the girls... he doesnt fight the noise because he cant sing?
lesson learned: do not interrupt when a girl wants to watch shooting stars the silver haired girl must be sent by the evil americans, have hopes on her since both Tsubasa and Hibiki are not likable characters, so far
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2012-01-22, 23:56 | Link #455 | |
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Right now cooperation is going to be pretty tough to manage. Right now all they are going to do is act separately which is fine until they run into something neither can handle alone. Surprising how smoothly Hibiki goes in and out of that berserk mode. Doesn't even seem to notice herself either. That or she isn't bothered by it.
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2012-01-22, 23:58 | Link #456 | |
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2012-01-23, 01:48 | Link #457 | |
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Also, that's why I said she needs to be "made" to get over it. Not "helped" to get over it. |
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2012-01-23, 05:03 | Link #459 |
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I don't catch what you refer to with being "made". Pressing and beating the poor girl won't make her overcome her problems, as i've said Tsubasa needs psychological assistance and emotional support badly. But then again, she becoming a ruthless soldier willing to nonchantaly risk her life and follow orders is probably what the organization only wants and ignore the poor girl on purpouse.
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2012-01-23, 05:58 | Link #460 |
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* Once comparison I haven't seen made is Noise to "The Spirits" [monsters] from Final Fantasy Spirits Within. These monsters are unaffected by normal attacks but can still hurt humans.
* However, noise attacks can damage buildings (spirits couldn't) * We see new behavior from Noise in Episode 3. We see the purple noise running away from pursuing Hibiki. I'd run too, but I didn't think noise were that intelligent. They seemed more like zombies in previous episodes. * No explanation for where monsters get their name "Noise." There's only been screams (like typical fantasy monsters) from them so far. Really enjoying this show so far * Good action scenes, though our heroines never seem like they're in any real danger (other than opening scene). It's more about whether or not they can protect people the noise are attacking. * Good character design for Kanade & Tsubasa (especially their Symphogears) * Hibiki is a good replacement for Kanade. She will probably get even better as time goes on. She does a good job of being the Red Oni (i.e., energetic) to Tsubasa's blue (i.e., depressed/reserved). * I think the writers are doing a fine job. We're already through Episode 3 with no villain revealed, so the writers have already done a nice job of setting us up for The Reveal of the villain. It could definitely be someone we think is on the good side which would be a nice surprise. * Please check out Replacement Scrappy at TVTropes. It describes Hibiki perfectly. Random Guessing: Candidates for Villain: (this show is missing a villain) - "Those dirty dirty Americans" - Armor girl - Miku - Ryouko Sakura (she invented Symphogear; who knows what else she's capable of) Miku dies later because Hibiki couldn't protect her Hibiki dies later and passes her powers to Miku Tsubasa dies later and passes her powers to Miku There will be more than the three Symphogears shown so far: possibly one for Miku and possibly one for Ryouko. Everyone's powers become one to defeat the final enemy. |
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