2009-01-20, 19:04 | Link #121 | |
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not till he is dead no living saints in the USofA
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2009-01-20, 19:09 | Link #122 |
OH NO
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It sounds like a national holiday, maybe they are just happy that Bush is not president anymore. The speech was very long, i was expecting a 5 minute talking about what he was going to do as president but it was a lot more than that i'm not celebrating though, after all it's just a normal day for me
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2009-01-20, 19:37 | Link #123 |
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Its been a long mostly painful eight years. Even if it fails, it'll be different.
People are excited... people with African ancestry are simply awestruck that a multi-racial person is now President in their lifetime (when more than a few remember the Jim Crow laws and the hideous treatment of blacks in the 20th Century).
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2009-01-20, 19:44 | Link #125 |
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This is quite amazing, when I first came to America I would have never thought of black president in America, hell even three or four years ago I would have never imagined it. Well putting aside the historical moment I just hope that the public will be patient with him.
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2009-01-20, 20:13 | Link #126 | |
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Time to set old scores aside, and 'dust ourselves and continue'. On the forgieners front, less US bashing On the American front, citizens too, the hope that everyone pulls together in their mindsets and actions to themselves and to the world. - It's a new chapter, the world are a lil happier for it naturally. But i don't sense it as historic myself (until we look back through his presidency, i guess.) Everyday, 'history' is being made, this is simply a new chapter down in America's book though. I figure it's still honeymoon period, so the glitter dust has to settle, everyday life sinks in and then we'll see how things progress...
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2009-01-20, 20:34 | Link #127 | |
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When you look past all the claims and fluff Obama really isn't that much better then any other politician. Just like anyone else who has climbed the ladder that far he has plenty of skeletons in the closet. However, unlike Bush, Obama is at the very least not a complete nincompoop. These past 8 years have been embarrassing for us Americans ( especially when we travel or talk to those from other countries ) because by saying "I am American" you would instantly get lumped as being under the leadership of a moron. With a new president in the white house, we don't have to be apologetic for Bush's countless mistakes anymore. Hopefully Obama does a decent job so we can continue. |
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2009-01-20, 20:41 | Link #128 | |||
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Chief Justice John Roberts misremembered the Oath of Office. It took a moment for he and Obama to agree on what the President-elect was supposed to say.
The Oath isn't just some text that was legislated or has been handed down over the years. The specific text appears in Article II, Section I, of the Constitution itself. During the deliberations over the Constitution, the words "to the best of my Ability" replaced the phrase "to the best of my Judgement" because the Framers wanted to enforce the notion that the President is bound by law, not that he or she may use "Judgement" to decide what's best. Quote:
The other major strain in this speech was his implicit rejection of the Administration whose President sat just to Obama's left. What other conclusion can we draw from lines like, "But our time of standing pat, of protecting narrow interests and putting off unpleasant decisions - that time has surely passed. Starting today, we must pick ourselves up, dust ourselves off, and begin again the work of remaking America." Quote:
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I happily waved good-bye to George when the helicopter went up, too, but that's hardly the most important aspect of today's events. Oh, and Bush didn't end up issuing any last-minute pardons for his cronies either (though he commuted Libby's sentence). I give him credit for that.
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2009-01-20, 21:15 | Link #129 | |
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I thought the speech was pretty effective. Particularly liked the obvious snubs towards Bush. Ah, not much else to do now but start listening to the whinging and doomsayers. 'Damn that new socialist/muslimterrorist/antiamerican/radicalblack/racist/homoluvin' President is gonna ruin the country!' |
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2009-01-20, 21:47 | Link #132 |
Le fou, c'est moi
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I just have this really funny picture in my mind of a photoshopped Fox News frontpage website with Obama's picture juxtaposed with a headline saying, "It's the End of the World As We Know It!" in big, red letters.
And I need to catch up on the inauguration too. It's a freaking Presidential inauguration ceremony, they should have made this a national holiday, jeez. You're having fun aren't you. |
2009-01-20, 22:21 | Link #134 |
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That's contingent on what part I'm expected to play. If it's something I agree with, sure, if not then nope
I assume that was directed at my "talk is cheap" comment. All I meant by that was that politicians aren't exactly great at keeping their election promises. Whether he's a good president, bad president, or somewhere in between remains to be seen. |
2009-01-20, 22:54 | Link #137 |
Obey the Darkly Cute ...
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yes, I was just having a bit of fun, sorry Zippicus ... people who keep setting the poor guy up as a Messiah are just destined to be disappointed. So are people who don't think some personal sacrifice might be in order to fix America's wagon.
Someone is going to have to pay for bridge repair, investing in the education of our youth and workforces, etc. The wealthy (the *real* wealthy) are going to have to share some of the cost of maintaining the environment in which they've profited. They've largely avoided that in the last couple of decades - leaving wealth to concentrate in a very small number of hands. Some industries are not going to happy with alterations to the status quo (insurance, oil, etc). They're going to have to be creative or diversify to thrive. I expect them to stall and fight every step of the way. If we're going to *share* the load for our healthcare, we're going to have to have real PE return to school, change our cities to encourage more healthy lifestyles, and some people may actually have to get off their asses and exercise/eatright as part of their medical treatment. Obama is a politician, he's got to work with a spectrum of viewpoints - so a lot of stuff is going to be little baby steps or "less than perfect". There will be plenty of opportunity for corruption, greed, fraud -- but oversight controls that (oversight was simply tossed out for six of the last eight years). I think the rather short couple of decades of sitting on our collective asses is one of the things Obama is aiming at.
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2009-01-21, 01:19 | Link #138 | |
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It seems to me, as pointed out by others here that the reason why there was a huge crowd at the inauguration party, even though half of the people didn't even had tickets and needed to sneak in through the fences was that Bush Jr. is no longer their president. More over, Obama's speech was somewhat meaningful though I didn't hear all of it. |
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2009-01-21, 01:32 | Link #139 | |
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I'll admit my interest in the US's wellbeing is not entirely altruistic. When a country buys 80% of your country's exports, you tend to wish them luck. |
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2009-01-21, 04:39 | Link #140 | |
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Nothing about laying the blame/responsibility on the woman herself who walks into the clinic to put herself through the process of inducing herself But yeah, I'm sure you guys will keep us posted here on what happens on the national front anyways (if it hasn't already been mentioned on the bbc anyways) Bush got booed xD BBC rep was interviewing regular peeps in the crowds, as soon as Obama was like 'i wanna thank Bush for his work for the country in the last 8 years', the BBC rep was like 'there was some booing and skeptism around the crowd at that statement' xD Well, i guess one has to go through hell to get to heaven, such is the relief that he is no longer president must be a breath of fresh air to the natives over there, so maybe in a hidden kinda way, it was good that Bush was so bad that people were prepared to go all out for something completely new
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