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Scython · 2013-12-02, 13:14

So, to put things into perspective.

For example, in Umineko you got a large chunk of continued story per follow-up and the wait in between caused the necessary suspense and speculation, so it kind of justified the format and actually enhanced the experience at the time.

But with the Angel Beats visual novel I'm getting more of an impression that volume 1 is basically the base game with some included routes. Now, what these following volumes do is basically add new routes, with the last and final sixth volume probably having the desired 'True Route'. So basically you are buying standalone expansion sets to get the full product, and usually you'd be inclined not to leave something unfinished and thus buy the whole set. Ka-ching! for them.

Then again, I do understand that they justified this method by saying that it would otherwise take them a few more years to get the entire game out. But the other hand it better be a hell of a long game because separate volumes for a mere 5 or so extra hours is a bit unnecessary to me.

Arturia Polaris · 2013-12-06, 04:05

I don't think however that we'll be treated to an unfinished work. Most likely, Jun Maeda will be working on this as "arcs". For example, arc 1 could be the whole Tenshi arc and introduction of the shadows.

Arc 2 could be about dealing with the shadows and the "ending" of the anime.

Arc 3 could be Otonashi's quest on the "another ending"

The rest is anyone's guess

smilewolfy · 2013-12-17, 08:26

^how would the arcs work? do you mean like, in each volume there will be one arc? would they each be mainly in the common route, and the character routes for each volume would be dealing with those arcs in slightly different ways?

I was under the impression that volume 1 would be the common route and first 3 character arcs, then volume 2 would be like an update, where you need to have volume 1 installed, and the second volume just adds more character routes and dialogue for common route o-o

actually after typing this i like your idea ^_^ but that would mean Yui would only appear in arc 1 and not the others D:

Arturia Polaris · 2013-12-17, 20:26

Think of how Kokoro Connect did it's visual novels.

Kind of like that. Each arc has a lot of possibilities for routes and stuff.

Second arc starts from where the anime started or something at say, episode 11.

third arc starts at the another end.

I don't know, just thinking out loud. I don't think it'll be split in volume 1 = kinetic novel with no choices just to shove volume 2 at you with some choices, etc.

Cheers

smilewolfy · 2013-12-17, 23:30

woah Kokoro Connect has visual novels O_O must look into that, thanks! :3

but yeah i get what you mean, that's a really good idea you have ^_^ I just hope if that does happen, that finishing a character route won't mean they have to disappear. Yui and Iwasawa ae too good Q.Q

novalysis · 2013-12-18, 06:13

Are they going to adopt a DLC model for Angel Beats Visual Novel? I really suspect they might end up selling certain endings as DLC, or selling bonus DLC routes.

The thing is, there's no more suspense or mystery left about the Angel Beats world. Unless Maeda surprises us, most of the mechanics are known, except for who exactly created the Angel Beats world.

The upside though, I think is that the pacing problems that benighted the anime stories (Iwazawa was good, and everything else fell apart because there wasn't simply the time to deliver those stories well) should be solved. I don't think there's a risk of desensitization, if each of the issues are sufficiently well differentiated, and each ending is subtly emotionally different. But whether or not Maeda can pull this off is another matter altogether

What makes Angel Beats interesting is that in Angel Beats, the "Dream World" aspect of Maeda's works are laid completely bare from the start, and all participants realize it. Another angle is that Angel Beats is a shared death dream of complete strangers, not friends, or family. Maeda has so far used it for comedy, I wonder whether he could do more with the fact that all the dreamers know they are dreaming, for more than just comedy (because really, that interesting feature wasn't exploited beyond comedy, though the comedy in my opinion was hilarious).

Eijigawa · 2013-12-26, 03:54

HOLY SH-

There's H scene (possibly ero only) in IWASAWA ROUTE !?!?!

Spoiler for 18+:

tsunade666 · 2013-12-26, 03:57

well I didn't expect that. Well actually I expect it but I expect a different one like little buster and little buster ex.

erneiz_hyde · 2013-12-26, 04:02

That shot is still relatively safe. Perhaps some service scenes at most, but I highly doubt there will be a fullblown explicit h-scene.

Marcus H. · 2013-12-26, 04:12

Ok, where's Iwasawa-chan's other piece of underwear?

smilewolfy · 2013-12-26, 04:23

eh i thought it was said there won't be H-scenes in this VN O_O I guess I got wrong information...

I hope this is like, a special scene that can only happen with certain choices, so we can possibly skip and go to the main story if we don't want them :3 but who knows xD

does anyone know what it says there? and will there be other scans for the other routes in volume 1? Q.Q

inb4 matsushida was this kid while alive http://www.blogcdn.com/www.parentdis...ese-baby-2.jpg

ukulelembo · 2013-12-26, 07:07

Simply said:

rating isn't yet officially decided
voice acting is in talks, but not certain

Kirayuki · 2013-12-26, 07:14

So, the volume 1 (of total 6 volumes) consisted of
- Ep.1-Ep.9
- Iwasawa, Yui, and Matsushita routes

That's quite a volume there. I wonder how they gonna fill the remaining volumes aside of the other routes.

Arturia Polaris · 2013-12-26, 10:38

Holy crap, Iwasawa ero? In my AB VN?

Insta-buy.

SubaruSumeragi · 2013-12-26, 11:23

Official Website is available now: http://key.visualarts.gr.jp/angelbeats/

GDB · 2013-12-26, 11:39

Quote:

Originally Posted by erneiz_hyde

That shot is still relatively safe. Perhaps some service scenes at most, but I highly doubt there will be a fullblown explicit h-scene.

This. Fan service != eroge. It's more likely that they'd do two versions if they were going to do an eroge, like they did with Little Busters.

And if they do make an eroge version, expect no voices other than as a fan patch (like Fate/Stay Night), since I'm pretty sure none of the voice actors/actresses do H stuff other than Yuri's actress.

Arturia Polaris · 2013-12-26, 11:53

Then again, who cares about the other characters. I want yurippe ero (??????)

ukulelembo · 2013-12-26, 12:01

Quote:

Originally Posted by Arturia Polaris

I want yurippe ero (??????)

Official site now really confirmed All Age rating.

Arturia Polaris · 2013-12-26, 13:17

I dare say, this is the best girl.

Requiem-x · 2013-12-26, 14:26

Oh wow! Is that Iwasawa?! Yaaaaa...

Quote:

Originally Posted by ukulelembo

Official site now really confirmed All Age rating.

...oh...ok.

Considering key's recent record, though, we WILL get something in that front eventually. After all, this is guaranteed to sell.

Oh, and CG at last! This really is happening! We're getting an angel beats VN!

@Arturia
Awesome as Yuri is, it is way too soon to tell. The whole point of this (for the fans) is to get a better look into the characters. For all we know, Yusa might end up being the best girl.

2013-12-06, 04:05	Link #142
Arturia Polaris Good OP Hunter Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Argentina	I don't think however that we'll be treated to an unfinished work. Most likely, Jun Maeda will be working on this as "arcs". For example, arc 1 could be the whole Tenshi arc and introduction of the shadows. Arc 2 could be about dealing with the shadows and the "ending" of the anime. Arc 3 could be Otonashi's quest on the "another ending" The rest is anyone's guess __________________ Arturia's Writing Den My fanfiction works include: Tari Tari: Past and Present, As the Gentle Breeze Blows Little Busters: Bird's Song Sword Art Online: Vanquishing of the Laughing Coffin My own works include: Social Fact

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smilewolfy Member Join Date: Nov 2013	^how would the arcs work? do you mean like, in each volume there will be one arc? would they each be mainly in the common route, and the character routes for each volume would be dealing with those arcs in slightly different ways? I was under the impression that volume 1 would be the common route and first 3 character arcs, then volume 2 would be like an update, where you need to have volume 1 installed, and the second volume just adds more character routes and dialogue for common route o-o actually after typing this i like your idea ^_^ but that would mean Yui would only appear in arc 1 and not the others D: __________________ My Digimon AMV

2013-12-17, 20:26	Link #144
Arturia Polaris Good OP Hunter Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Argentina	Think of how Kokoro Connect did it's visual novels. Kind of like that. Each arc has a lot of possibilities for routes and stuff. Second arc starts from where the anime started or something at say, episode 11. third arc starts at the another end. I don't know, just thinking out loud. I don't think it'll be split in volume 1 = kinetic novel with no choices just to shove volume 2 at you with some choices, etc. Cheers __________________ Arturia's Writing Den My fanfiction works include: Tari Tari: Past and Present, As the Gentle Breeze Blows Little Busters: Bird's Song Sword Art Online: Vanquishing of the Laughing Coffin My own works include: Social Fact

2013-12-17, 23:30	Link #145
smilewolfy Member Join Date: Nov 2013	woah Kokoro Connect has visual novels O_O must look into that, thanks! :3 but yeah i get what you mean, that's a really good idea you have ^_^ I just hope if that does happen, that finishing a character route won't mean they have to disappear. Yui and Iwasawa ae too good Q.Q __________________ My Digimon AMV

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Eijigawa Half-assed Nightmare~ Join Date: Jun 2007	VN Pic Preview HOLY SH- There's H scene (possibly ero only) in IWASAWA ROUTE !?!?! Spoiler for 18+: __________________

2013-12-02, 13:14	Link #141
Scython Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2009	So, to put things into perspective. For example, in Umineko you got a large chunk of continued story per follow-up and the wait in between caused the necessary suspense and speculation, so it kind of justified the format and actually enhanced the experience at the time. But with the Angel Beats visual novel I'm getting more of an impression that volume 1 is basically the base game with some included routes. Now, what these following volumes do is basically add new routes, with the last and final sixth volume probably having the desired 'True Route'. So basically you are buying standalone expansion sets to get the full product, and usually you'd be inclined not to leave something unfinished and thus buy the whole set. Ka-ching! for them. Then again, I do understand that they justified this method by saying that it would otherwise take them a few more years to get the entire game out. But the other hand it better be a hell of a long game because separate volumes for a mere 5 or so extra hours is a bit unnecessary to me.

2013-12-18, 06:13	Link #146
novalysis Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2011	Are they going to adopt a DLC model for Angel Beats Visual Novel? I really suspect they might end up selling certain endings as DLC, or selling bonus DLC routes. The thing is, there's no more suspense or mystery left about the Angel Beats world. Unless Maeda surprises us, most of the mechanics are known, except for who exactly created the Angel Beats world. The upside though, I think is that the pacing problems that benighted the anime stories (Iwazawa was good, and everything else fell apart because there wasn't simply the time to deliver those stories well) should be solved. I don't think there's a risk of desensitization, if each of the issues are sufficiently well differentiated, and each ending is subtly emotionally different. But whether or not Maeda can pull this off is another matter altogether What makes Angel Beats interesting is that in Angel Beats, the "Dream World" aspect of Maeda's works are laid completely bare from the start, and all participants realize it. Another angle is that Angel Beats is a shared death dream of complete strangers, not friends, or family. Maeda has so far used it for comedy, I wonder whether he could do more with the fact that all the dreamers know they are dreaming, for more than just comedy (because really, that interesting feature wasn't exploited beyond comedy, though the comedy in my opinion was hilarious).

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tsunade666 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: In my room	well I didn't expect that. Well actually I expect it but I expect a different one like little buster and little buster ex. __________________ To A certain Lonely Hero

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erneiz_hyde 18782+18782=37564 Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: InterWebs	That shot is still relatively safe. Perhaps some service scenes at most, but I highly doubt there will be a fullblown explicit h-scene. __________________

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2013-12-26, 04:23	Link #151
smilewolfy Member Join Date: Nov 2013	eh i thought it was said there won't be H-scenes in this VN O_O I guess I got wrong information... I hope this is like, a special scene that can only happen with certain choices, so we can possibly skip and go to the main story if we don't want them :3 but who knows xD does anyone know what it says there? and will there be other scans for the other routes in volume 1? Q.Q inb4 matsushida was this kid while alive http://www.blogcdn.com/www.parentdis...ese-baby-2.jpg __________________ My Digimon AMV

2013-12-26, 07:07	Link #152
ukulelembo Detective Join Date: Jul 2010	Simply said: rating isn't yet officially decided voice acting is in talks, but not certain

2013-12-26, 07:14	Link #153
Kirayuki Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2012	So, the volume 1 (of total 6 volumes) consisted of - Ep.1-Ep.9 - Iwasawa, Yui, and Matsushita routes That's quite a volume there. I wonder how they gonna fill the remaining volumes aside of the other routes.

2013-12-26, 10:38	Link #154
Arturia Polaris Good OP Hunter Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Argentina	Holy crap, Iwasawa ero? In my AB VN? Insta-buy. __________________ Arturia's Writing Den My fanfiction works include: Tari Tari: Past and Present, As the Gentle Breeze Blows Little Busters: Bird's Song Sword Art Online: Vanquishing of the Laughing Coffin My own works include: Social Fact

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SubaruSumeragi Member Join Date: Jul 2012	Official Website is available now: http://key.visualarts.gr.jp/angelbeats/

2013-12-26, 11:53	Link #157
Arturia Polaris Good OP Hunter Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Argentina	Then again, who cares about the other characters. I want yurippe ero (??????) __________________ Arturia's Writing Den My fanfiction works include: Tari Tari: Past and Present, As the Gentle Breeze Blows Little Busters: Bird's Song Sword Art Online: Vanquishing of the Laughing Coffin My own works include: Social Fact

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Arturia Polaris Good OP Hunter Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Argentina	I dare say, this is the best girl. __________________ Arturia's Writing Den My fanfiction works include: Tari Tari: Past and Present, As the Gentle Breeze Blows Little Busters: Bird's Song Sword Art Online: Vanquishing of the Laughing Coffin My own works include: Social Fact