Magical Girl Lyrical Nanoha Character Creation and Discussion

[Sheba]

And that's why there are other people writing their versions of the fall of Belka. How exactly the Seiou died and the Cradle got lost are still unknown factors, so really anything is possible.

*raises hand*

How I view the fall of Belka:

- Until then, they were viewed as invincible until a sound defeat that made crumble the myth of the invincibility of Belkan armies.

- Belka has stretched over a large number of territories, to the point that the resources allocated to law and administration has stretched thin, forcing Belka to give more power to native populations of conquered territories.

- Mentionned populations start to make secession, this is especially true on the borders of the Empire where its hold is the weakest.

- Unwelcomed disasters, like bad harvest for the agriculture sector, strikes from workers in the industry, and the natural disasters (earthquake, meteor fall, you name it) has make the faith and trust of the population in the emperor crumble.

- Noblemen and generals want their part in the political and military power cakes and likely staged a coup in various occasions.

- Then there are this war that has brought the empire to its knees, and made it history.

[Evangelion Xgouki]

Originally Posted by Tk3997

Indeed we must spread the dise--- Relgi--- HOBBY to other fandoms... yessssss.

So is that a regular yessssss or a [megatron]yesssssss[/megatron]

Originally Posted by Tk3997

Shout "LOL ZERG RUSH!!!" and hope for the best...

Raid coordinator: Alright, so warriors all know their rotation order? Healers have their assignments. So now DPS needs to watch their aggro and...

Random d00d: Let's do dis!

Raid Coordinator: Oh lords...no...

Random d00d: LEEEERRROOOYYYY

Random other raiders: OH SH**

Other d00ds: JEENNNKKIINNNSSS!!!!

<Boss aggro'd>

[FlameSparkZ]

Originally Posted by Keroko

Oh, trust me, Khrack is running rampant through my mind. From wacked out ideas like a prototype android (scrapped, of course) to a Sentoukijin, to Erio's sister, to a former trainer of the Aces in their early days, to another of Vivio's classmates, and even ideas like this:



This idea drops the high-defence train of thought of Alpha-Syn and goes for a more low-defence, high-speed version. I already have idea to why her hair is so short too, with a small wink to the anime.

Basically, I'm sifting through the Khrack in my brain and finding the right Khrack. The Khrack that makes everybody go 'hey, that actually looks good.'

So far the latest idea of combining Hikaru and Syn holds the most merit, not the least because I like both of them.

Nice

Originally Posted by Keroko

Can do. I was messing around with color paterns for the Barrier Jacket.

Spoiler:

Dunno... I think red is still the best one.

Hmm...don't know, to me, the red doesn't seem to go well with her hair...instead the blue version might suit her better...but that's just me

*runs*

[Tk3997]

Originally Posted by Keroko

Side question: Have you ever watched Angelic Layer?

Na my anime watching is acutally quite limited and specific if it lacks pretty strong sci-fi elements the chances I've seen it are pretty poor; though they improve slightly if it's a comedy, but then plummets again if it has lots of angst.

Anyway, its more then a minor aspect. Like I said, Syn is still a virtually blank paper. Sure, I wrote down a profile for Alpha, but that was based on events as they happened in Alpha. This also changed her combat style (going from a defensive oriented melee specialist to an offensive one with high mobillity).

I suppose though her personality dosen't really seem like the rush down sort to me. *shrugs* That tends to be the domain of the hot blooded loons and such I'd have pegged her as a slower more methodical type fighter myself, but then again her characterization is at this point rather... pliable. That has up and downsides means you can do lots of stuff with her character wise, but also means that her history and backstory is rather thin.

It may apear weak on a surface level, but this does mean that stuff will get written with her. If I simply copy/paste, she'll end up like the Rogues at best, and Mandy at worst.

Yeah I've had that issue a bit too I've basiclly retconned as much of my early "lol SG-1 crack!" as I could basiclly O'Neil is the only thing left that I'm really mentioning regularly since other people (mainly goose) have put him into there back stories and stuff. I'm trying to limit anymore SG crack though and besides him pretty much the entire cast of my fic is now genuine OCs. (well Pixy and Cipher are tributes obviously, but are tenuously related to there source material at best, plus since Cipher was basiclly a blank slat I've pretty much created his characterization from the ground up anyway)

Keroko-kun: I actually watched it because I've watched other Oxhorn productions, which were quite good. But there's always a rotten apple around I suppose.

I just tend to be leery of most game movies in general as on the whole 99% (forget the usual 90) is crap so if you don't get my attention within about 30 seconds... closed.

Those times were hardly as common back when though. In fact... if I recall things started going downhill with the arival of Gurren Lagann... that's when the hotblood craze started.

Yeah I showed up in the middle of that nonsense sure it was good time for the crazies, but for the moderates not so much.

It was more of a side comment, really. Anyway, with Vivio and her 'golden throne' in the Cradle and all, it just set of alarm bells and we made a few links and laughed at the craziness. As always, things move on from there. You have to remember that crack was as common as dirt back then, and we were much more liberal with our references.

I can see how it could happen and like I said I don't mind references it's when entire elements of the other universe and plot points start showing up that I start to go "Okay is this a tribute or a crossover". I'll admit I nearly did the same thing, but I've been working damage control and moving very much away from my earlier SG-1 crack.

And that's why there are other people writing their versions of the fall of Belka. How exactly the Seiou died and the Cradle got lost are still unknown factors, so really anything is possible.

True nearly everyone seems to have there take on how it went down, but I tend to prefer ones that are acutally original and TRY to stay within canon all this crap about Grey Knights and stuff it's just... bleh. I don't worry much about the fall itself though since I have no plans regarding any of that I'm more worried about how crap introduced in all these crazy back stories could leak into the present.

My version will only have acts of betrayal portrayed (which one technically can say aren't exactly connections ), there won't be any 'daemons' or the like present. It doesn't fit into the story I've written.

Good to know yours was never one I found that objectionable it was more the fact that Kha seemed to want to take your rather more reasonable approach and cram all sorts of extra 40k shit into it until it resembled a mutated nanoha/40k love child.

*shrug* true about the later parts, though the holy powers can be explained as simply being another form of magic, which the knights refuse to believe are not of their divine guardians.

Now that I'd have zero issue with, but I HIGHLY doubt Kha would be amendable to such a thing he seems extremely dedicated to the idea that divine beings and magic are very real in Nanoha despite an almost total lack of even hints of such in canon.

... This does nothing to quell my mind filled with the various storylines of Keroko's insertion into Angelic Layer. Not that that's a bad thing.

I'm hooked on Macross crack at the moment I've been going back and messing aroudn with some of my older ideas about it.

[Sheba]

Originally Posted by krisslanza

I come to the OC in search of help. Now I'm sure most of you don't remember Rune Juril my OC (Unless you frequent the IRC and I said anything about her...) but I WANT to finish her I just... Can't decide on what kind of weapon I want her to have. :P

Originally I planned a swallow blade. 'Till I began to think its:
A. Hard to imagine how to fight with one for me
B. Where in the world does the cartridge sit without being in a very awkward position?
C. On that same note, where would the core be? Since its a Midchildan made device and all

So I began to plan other ideas:
1. Swallow blade
2. Katana
3. Sword/gun combo (So yes two devices)
4. Gunblade (Suggested by someone else )

Open to suggestions but I prefer a blade of some sort due to her friendship with Signum and helping Vivio with her own swordsmanship.

What about the uncommon kusarigama?

Spoiler:

Sword & gun combo

[Saint X]

Originally Posted by Keroko

... This does nothing to quell my mind filled with the various storylines of Keroko's insertion into Angelic Layer. Not that that's a bad thing.

This was not meant to quell any minds...

This is infact just the beginning of what madness this Mad Saint has in store for the Layer.

If you have time, please Visit my FFN Profile - the link's on my sig, and read my fic... yes all current 96 chapters of it, leave a review or two and some suggestions.

And if I have time, another OC contract perhaps?

That reminds me to work on that fic.

[Keroko]

Originally Posted by AdmiralTigerclaw

Those were minis? I couldn't tell really, seeing as they're hidden... Easily fixed.

You Don't see them generally, but Revolver Knuckle uses a... well, revolver loading system. There is one time where it is displayed in full view:

Spoiler for IS: Silver Retriever:

Originally Posted by AdmiralTigerclaw

Nah, just her. Crash is a C rank, and has more power easily. Abby's barely magical, just like Fox. She gets by on extremely awesome (GODLIKE!) shooting skills.

Then it was me. Ignore what I said.

Originally Posted by krisslanza

I come to the OC in search of help. Now I'm sure most of you don't remember Rune Juril my OC (Unless you frequent the IRC and I said anything about her...) but I WANT to finish her I just... Can't decide on what kind of weapon I want her to have. :P

Originally I planned a swallow blade. 'Till I began to think its:
A. Hard to imagine how to fight with one for me
B. Where in the world does the cartridge sit without being in a very awkward position?
C. On that same note, where would the core be? Since its a Midchildan made device and all

So I began to plan other ideas:
1. Swallow blade
2. Katana
3. Sword/gun combo (So yes two devices)
4. Gunblade (Suggested by someone else )

Open to suggestions but I prefer a blade of some sort due to her friendship with Signum and helping Vivio with her own swordsmanship.

A sword-gun combo sounds really cool. The Cartridge system is obvious with the gun, and the sword can use a similar system to Levantine. The core would be along the side of the gun, similar to Cross Mirage. The sword doesn't need a core per-se, as you already have it in the gun.

Originally Posted by Sheba

*raises hand*

How I view the fall of Belka:

- Until then, they were viewed as invincible until a sound defeat that made crumble the myth of the invincibility of Belkan armies.

- Belka has stretched over a large number of territories, to the point that the resources allocated to law and administration has stretched thin, forcing Belka to give more power to native populations of conquered territories.

- Mentionned populations start to make secession, this is especially true on the borders of the Empire where its hold is the weakest.

- Unwelcomed disasters, like bad harvest for the agriculture sector, strikes from workers in the industry, and the natural disasters (earthquake, meteor fall, you name it) has make the faith and trust of the population in the emperor crumble.

- Noblemen and generals want their part in the political and military power cakes and likely staged a coup in various occasions.

- Then there are this war that has brought the empire to its knees, and made it history.

And that's a perfectly viable way to view it.

Originally Posted by FlameSparkZ

Hmm...don't know, to me, the red doesn't seem to go well with her hair...instead the blue version might suit her better...but that's just me

*runs*

The red worked fine in the above shot... But I'll play with various screens and colors for a while, thanks for the input.

Originally Posted by Tk3997

Na my anime watching is acutally quite limited and specific if it lacks pretty strong sci-fi elements the chances I've seen it are pretty poor; though they improve slightly if it's a comedy, but then plummets again if it has lots of angst.

Then you should probably know that there isn't much about Hikaru that can be ported. Hikaru is an 'angel', a battle doll whom we only get to see move during the fights, and she never speaks a word. There's no past, no secret history, all we have is her in combat. Her fighting style and personallity in combat (really, even though she doesn't say a word, she has quite a presence).

Originally Posted by Tk3997

I suppose though her personality dosen't really seem like the rush down sort to me. *shrugs* That tends to be the domain of the hot blooded loons and such I'd have pegged her as a slower more methodical type fighter myself, but then again her characterization is at this point rather... pliable. That has up and downsides means you can do lots of stuff with her character wise, but also means that her history and backstory is rather thin.

Define 'rush down.' She doesn't buldozer in without a plan (having low armor, that gets you killed the moment you're up against a smart oponent) but uses her speed to her advantage, getting close before the enemy has a chance to react (circumstancial, but its the idea) or getting behind them and lay traps. Analyze, use the speed and agillity to avoid attacks while revealing none of yours untill you know you can strike.

Originally Posted by Tk3997

Yeah I've had that issue a bit too I've basiclly retconned as much of my early "lol SG-1 crack!" as I could basiclly O'Neil is the only thing left that I'm really mentioning regularly since other people (mainly goose) have put him into there back stories and stuff. I'm trying to limit anymore SG crack though and besides him pretty much the entire cast of my fic is now genuine OCs. (well Pixy and Cipher are tributes obviously, but are tenuously related to there source material at best, plus since Cipher was basiclly a blank slat I've pretty much created his characterization from the ground up anyway)

O'Neil deserves to stay because he's O'Neil, that's all the excuse needed. :3 And I have no problems with Pixy and Cipher, the best ports are ports that don't require you to have seen/played/read the original, both of them do just fine in that department.

Originally Posted by Tk3997

I just tend to be leery of most game movies in general as on the whole 99% (forget the usual 90) is crap so if you don't get my attention within about 30 seconds... closed.

True, but like I said, I know this machinema maker. This one was a rotten apple in the basket.

Originally Posted by Tk3997

Yeah I showed up in the middle of that nonsense sure it was good time for the crazies, but for the moderates not so much.

Things were a lot less... anxious back then though.

Originally Posted by Tk3997

I can see how it could happen and like I said I don't mind references it's when entire elements of the other universe and plot points start showing up that I start to go "Okay is this a tribute or a crossover". I'll admit I nearly did the same thing, but I've been working damage control and moving very much away from my earlier SG-1 crack.

One of the main reasons I leave Aspect Mages as a reference only. It's a fairly unknown magic style that's far in decline anyway <_<

Originally Posted by Tk3997

Now that I'd have zero issue with, but I HIGHLY doubt Kha would be amendable to such a thing he seems extremely dedicated to the idea that divine beings and magic are very real in Nanoha despite an almost total lack of even hints of such in canon.

Well, technically his 'Divine Beings' aren't divine at all. The Naaru are basically giant mana batteries (concidering their energies can be drained and used without their concent), which is a lot more plausible.

Originally Posted by Saint X

This was not meant to quell any minds...

This is infact just the beginning of what madness this Mad Saint has in store for the Layer.

If you have time, please Visit my FFN Profile - the link's on my sig, and read my fic... yes all current 96 chapters of it, leave a review or two and some suggestions.

And if I have time, another OC contract perhaps?

That reminds me to work on that fic.

Will do, later. Kinda busy at the moment. It's late and vacation's over. -_-;

[krisslanza]

@Sheba:
Kusarigama sounds like too much work for me to have figure out how to describe how the thing works.
Like the sword/gun picture though

@Keroko:
Wouldn't the sword need a core since its a separate device? I wasn't sure if a device was capable of being split into two separate forms; we've seen a device split into two of the same weapon (Riot Zamber) but I'm not sure if it could sustain two separate forms.

[Kha]

Originally Posted by Keroko

Oh, I'm not worried about the fanboys. I can handle fanboys.

Besides, as Konata would say 'flat chested is a status symbol'.

"The flat chest is a status symbol! :3"

"But you ARE worried aren't you?"

"..."

Pwn'd.

Originally Posted by Keroko

Hybrid? Having Fire Warriors is pretty much a standard move when playing Tau in 40K though. And you always have a Shas-O in a powersuit. Well... unless you choose an Ethereal as your HQ.

It's compulsory, so they are the odd one out in a mech Tau unless loaded into a fish for epic expenses. Also, mech Tau is so heavy on tanks I need shoe-boxes to carry them around.

So far I've trimmed it to 2 WarFishes and 1 RailHead, and loaded up on 2-man Broadside teams, plus a Pathfinder squad for pining and Markelights. Reorganizing my Tau FWs too, and debating Seeker upgrades. At this level though, I realized that 1500 points is actually very small...

Originally Posted by Keroko

Hmm, well Necron can hit hard, their main disadvantage is that their units are expensive. Even a normal Warrior costs 18 points, while a Tau Fire Warrior is only 10, and the Tau get superior weaponry to boot. In OC-terms that means that the TSAB would have the advantage of numbers against the Necron. Combine that with weapons that won't allow a save (Belkan powered weapons) and weapons with twice as much strength as the targets toughness (Divine Buster go!) and the fact that the TSAB simply outspeeds the Necron units and you see the TSAB standing more and more of a chance.

Most of the times I kill Necron armies by dancing around them. Gauss Flayers have 24 Inch reach, my Pulse Rifles 30. Using that reach to my advantage I can hold them off, the big pain comes when the other player starts Deep Striking. >_<

I see... TSAB are first surprised, and get pwn'd, then they start using their brains a little and stall this advance. OCs arrive/Deep Strike, lay waste, Necrons announce their reply, scrum ensues...

WoW I actually have an idea how the battle'd progress now.

Originally Posted by Evangelion Xgouki

Did someone say...Orcs in Space?

*RUNS*

"Lok'Thar o'gar, Friend. I trust that the Deep Sleep hasn't cause you any harm." ~ Warchief Thrall, to a newly unfrozen Orc.

Thus I am rendered immune to that. FOR THE HORDE!!!

Originally Posted by Evangelion Xgouki

So would she be a 25 or a 40-man raid boss?

Originally Posted by Keroko

Serverwide event-raid.

:shiver:

Originally Posted by Evangelion Xgouki

I suppose. Though given some of Hayate's spells I thought she was more Arcane spec'd

I don't know about that... Diabolic Emission, Bloody Dagger look like Shadow spells, Hrevelger is either Wind/Frost/Arcane, the rest are Frost... So given the number of Frost spells available to her, that looks like the spec...

Originally Posted by Evangelion Xgouki

We just have weird token drops. We'll get like 12 Mage/Lock/Hunter token, 5 Pally/Rogue/Shammy and then 1 Warrior/Priest/Druid token. It really irks me that the Mages/Locks/Hunter are already going for second tokens when barely 1/3 of Priest/Warriors have their 1st ones

That is really bull rolling on the loot tables. :/

Originally Posted by Keroko

Can do. I was messing around with color paterns for the Barrier Jacket.

Spoiler:

Dunno... I think red is still the best one.

Same here.

Originally Posted by Keroko

Bah, Kha may throw in some whacked out ideas at times, but there have also been many times where he threw in crazy ideas and people went 'wait... that actually make sense!'

His cleric knights aren't all that far-fetched for example, concidering the Saint Church has been stated to worship the Seiou (seriously, 7Arcs keeps throwing 40K references at us, don't blame us if we use them) and it is the largest religion out there, and we know they have their own mages.

Originally Posted by Tk3997

This isn't even CLOSE to a 40k reference IMO it's a Christian reference. (they also worship an ancient messianic figure that the feel was divine). 40k also uses some extremely vaugely Christian elements but so dose about 50,000 other pieces of fiction the connection is EXTREMELY tenuous at best and you're really only defending it cause you happen to like 40k. I don't even really mind it that much, but it's when this imported 40k crap starts to overtake and overrun actual canon that I start to roll my eyes. All this crap that seems to be leading toward turning the fall of Belka into the frikkin Horus Heresy for instance inspires intense loathing in me.

You said it yourself; a full 40K port does not fit. And the Cleric-Knights were based off the Space Marines, but I diluted that with several other sources + some of my own thinking about religion, WHICH IS heavily influenced by looking at the entire pletora of Christian and Islamic faiths and trying to see what is the common point.

The very line from the DVD booklet that the faith of Saint Church is very liberal plays completely to this idea.

However, yes I know the Heresy thing was glaring. That's why I want to look at what Keroko is doing for Fall of the Empire and work from there. There may or may not be a Heresy; as of the latest, the only concrete thing I've said in the latest codex is that Sankt Kaiser and her Knights were wiped out fighting for humanity, and the effort to re-establish them comes from both Kha's knowledge that something is coming, and the Church Council wanting more political power, for better or for worse.

Feel free to debate the latter point; I got that idea off how Singapore first got off the floor. Whether it'll also lead to an independent Belka is far off and riddled with minefields, so I can only say wait and see.

Originally Posted by Tk3997

Knights of the church yeah no issue there knights of the church using here to unseen holy powers to fight also unseen demons and having started out descending from a bunch of genetically engineered cloned super soldiers... not so much. I got no issue with the church having Knights my problem is more with the fact these knights barely even vaugely resemble actual canon Belkan Knights and are instead modeled off of bloody space marines.

You DO know that these Knights are an elite minority, given that with the requirement of a special Linker Core means only a few can be Cleric-Knights, unlike the individually cloned ones from Ancient Belka? I believe that them not resembling canon Knights is canonically justified given their "history" and achievements.

Also, Kha changed much of the monastic doctrine into a more liberal interpretation, just like what the Sankt Kaiser movement canonically did for the New Testament, which was already very liberal for a holy script. WH40K vets look at the Cleric-Knights and go "WTF are these even Grey Knights? These guys are pansy!"

And to that end, it shows that I've succeeded in making them fit into Nanoha.

Originally Posted by Saint X

*Temporarily decloaks and Pauses Backlog Breaker Charge*

*does EPIC STOP SIGN to stop all the WH40K talk*

Did I just hear Angelic Layer Crack?

Spoiler for Last Lines of the Latest Chapter of Saint X's Angelic Layer Fic:

Back in the outhouse laboratory, Yayoi was a bit irritated as to what Shinji said as to the whereabouts of Icchan.

“Great… I have someone from Technical Services arriving here to further tell us of the plan we have secured for ten million.” Yayoi puffed. “And this as well…”

Yayoi then loaded a disc with the title “Proposed Additional Skill Trees for Angelic Layer Angels” into the DVD player and began to view the contents.

“Limit Test, Test Subject C… Reinforce I… ‘Hraeslvgr’.” Was the title of the file that Yayoi chose to open.

It was a taped angel demonstration, with the only angel- which Yayoi pointed out as “Reinforce I”- an angel in black, with long white hair, with white wings on her hips, shoulders and ankles, holding what seemed to be a book. The angel the raised an arm into the air and at her feet, what seemed to be a triangle of light appeared.

“This is…” Yayoi could only whisper.

Four more triangles open around the angel, each one bearing a point of light at the center. But before it can be used, Yayoi suddenly stopped the disc.

“What’s the matter?” Shinji asked.

“You can view this on your own… Let’s just hope that this addition will be a good thing.”

“Yayoi?”

“I prefer to be surprised… along with the rest of us.”

- Phase 2-46 (Chapter 96), Kidou Tenshi Angelic Layer: The New Tournament

*Takes out EPIC GO SIGN to resume the WH40K talk*

*Resumes Backlog Breaker Charge and recloaks*

Oh yoikes They are all coming out in the open.

Originally Posted by Keroko

Those times were hardly as common back when though. In fact... if I recall things started going downhill with the arival of Gurren Lagann... that's when the hotblood craze started.

There was GGG, but it took a while to get into. Gurren Lagann was new fresh and 26 episodes, fit into my schedule, and I went nuts. Over time, others got converted, and many were left facepalming. :3

Originally Posted by Keroko

It was more of a side comment, really. Anyway, with Vivio and her 'golden throne' in the Cradle and all, it just set of alarm bells and we made a few links and laughed at the craziness. As always, things move on from there. You have to remember that crack was as common as dirt back then, and we were much more liberal with our references.

I wish I am more dicotomious in my posts to that we can tell when I'm joking and when I'm not. :/

Originally Posted by Keroko

And that's why there are other people writing their versions of the fall of Belka. How exactly the Seiou died and the Cradle got lost are still unknown factors, so really anything is possible.

My version will only have acts of betrayal portrayed (which one technically can say aren't exactly connections ), there won't be any 'daemons' or the like present. It doesn't fit into the story I've written.

Which after much thought I've decided to go with. So heresy or not, despite being born from the fires of the Alhazred collapse, despite battling all those xenoic threats, I believe Belka was ultimately destroyed by the 18th Angel, Humanity.

Originally Posted by Keroko

*shrug* true about the later parts, though the holy powers can be explained as simply being another form of magic, which the knights refuse to believe are not of their divine guardians.

Kha, his Knights and other Belka recognize this as truth. The rest of the lost can diss them, but to the Belka, it is the Lost Sheep's loss.

It's fiercely debatable, and several miracles and visions indicate otherwise, but hey, isn't this what religion is like?

Originally Posted by Keroko

Knowing what happens if you say that... makes me fear for my freshly rolled Pally.

Kha is one, and Khrack has it that a spark of insanity had him going LEEEEROOOOOY JEEEENKIIINSSSSSS!!! and breaking open Number cylinders... with the same end result.

...and before people think that is fanon, THAT IS A JOKE!

Originally Posted by Keroko

... This does nothing to quell my mind filled with the various storylines of Keroko's insertion into Angelic Layer. Not that that's a bad thing.

Side-characters aren't bad; in fact, AL is perfectly forgiving to that really. It's like adding another Ace to the Nanohaverse, which you've done very well.

Originally Posted by Sheba

*raises hand*

How I view the fall of Belka:

- Until then, they were viewed as invincible until a sound defeat that made crumble the myth of the invincibility of Belkan armies.

- Belka has stretched over a large number of territories, to the point that the resources allocated to law and administration has stretched thin, forcing Belka to give more power to native populations of conquered territories.

- Mentionned populations start to make secession, this is especially true on the borders of the Empire where its hold is the weakest.

- Unwelcomed disasters, like bad harvest for the agriculture sector, strikes from workers in the industry, and the natural disasters (earthquake, meteor fall, you name it) has make the faith and trust of the population in the emperor crumble.

- Noblemen and generals want their part in the political and military power cakes and likely staged a coup in various occasions.

- Then there are this war that has brought the empire to its knees, and made it history.

My thoughts on the subject are still not concrete, but this has a part to play as well.

Originally Posted by Tk3997

I can see how it could happen and like I said I don't mind references it's when entire elements of the other universe and plot points start showing up that I start to go "Okay is this a tribute or a crossover". I'll admit I nearly did the same thing, but I've been working damage control and moving very much away from my earlier SG-1 crack.

Unit is a tribute. Story is original. In no way is it a crossover, but several elements does mirror WH fiction, but its mostly the Alhazredian collapse mirroring the Dark Age of Technology, the attitude towards STCs mirroring the attitudes to Lost Logia, and the organization of the Imperiallum of Belka. Everything else, even the mood and such, is Nanohafied, or completely redone. "Damage control" like you said.

Originally Posted by Tk3997

True nearly everyone seems to have there take on how it went down, but I tend to prefer ones that are acutally original and TRY to stay within canon all this crap about Grey Knights and stuff it's just... bleh. I don't worry much about the fall itself though since I have no plans regarding any of that I'm more worried about how crap introduced in all these crazy back stories could leak into the present.

Trust me, I have it under control.

Originally Posted by Tk3997

Good to know yours was never one I found that objectionable it was more the fact that Kha seemed to want to take your rather more reasonable approach and cram all sorts of extra 40k shit into it until it resembled a mutated nanoha/40k love child.

This is your opinion. AFAIK the script in my head is nothing like what I first started with. I only retained bits that is justifiable by canon.

Originally Posted by Tk3997

Now that I'd have zero issue with, but I HIGHLY doubt Kha would be amendable to such a thing he seems extremely dedicated to the idea that divine beings and magic are very real in Nanoha despite an almost total lack of even hints of such in canon.

See above reply. :3

[LimitedEternal]

Originally Posted by Tk3997

With the power of crack there's NOTHING we can't do!

Nande? Do I have this right? YOU are spreading crack???

Unpossible! ()

Indeed we must spread the dise--- Relgi--- HOBBY to other fandoms... yessssss.

I'd tend to agree myself though calling dibs on a character just to kind of morph her into a minor aspect of an existing OC seems a bit weak, but just ignore my nit picking if you think it works.

Well, if you like the concept and happen to find someone that works...

Shout "LOL ZERG RUSH!!!" and hope for the best...

Oh yes, the almighty Zerg rush, favorite of players everywhere. :3

Originally Posted by Keroko

Those times were hardly as common back when though. In fact... if I recall things started going downhill with the arival of Gurren Lagann... that's when the hotblood craze started.

Oh, what's wrong with a little hot blood?

See, I was gonna make a GL-based character, Spiral and all, but figured you guys might take exception. We can reign in hot blood!

Originally Posted by krisslanza

I come to the OC in search of help. Now I'm sure most of you don't remember Rune Juril my OC (Unless you frequent the IRC and I said anything about her...) but I WANT to finish her I just... Can't decide on what kind of weapon I want her to have. :P

Originally I planned a swallow blade. 'Till I began to think its:
A. Hard to imagine how to fight with one for me
B. Where in the world does the cartridge sit without being in a very awkward position?
C. On that same note, where would the core be? Since its a Midchildan made device and all

So I began to plan other ideas:
1. Swallow blade
2. Katana
3. Sword/gun combo (So yes two devices)
4. Gunblade (Suggested by someone else )

Open to suggestions but I prefer a blade of some sort due to her friendship with Signum and helping Vivio with her own swordsmanship.

I kinda like the original swallow idea of yours, so I'm gonna give you some ideas...off-the-wall ones, but not unreasonable. :3

Point A: Yes, it's gonna be hard to fight with a swallow, or any other dual-bladed weapon. Darth Maul probably didn't pick it up in a day either. Looks damn cool if you're skilled with it, though.

Point B and C: Here's where it gets awkward. I had an idea once to make a pair of Devices that were separate entities but had a unified AI. Why not try a dual-core Device? A cartridge chamber and core on each blade? Two separate AIs that work with a single Device?

Yes, it's unusual, but I think it has merit. Note that I'll likely try this system out myself, assuming it doesn't get shot down.

Originally Posted by Evangelion Xgouki

Raid coordinator: Alright, so warriors all know their rotation order? Healers have their assignments. So now DPS needs to watch their aggro and...

Random d00d: Let's do dis!

Raid Coordinator: Oh lords...no...

Random d00d: LEEEERRROOOYYYY

Random other raiders: OH SH**

Other d00ds: JEENNNKKIINNNSSS!!!!

<Boss aggro'd>

And another raid gets claimed by the Leeroy Syndrome...:3

Originally Posted by FlameSparkZ

Hmm...don't know, to me, the red doesn't seem to go well with her hair...instead the blue version might suit her better...but that's just me

*runs*

Nah, I think red's the best. The blue one just looks too...uniform with her hair.

Besides, red ones go faster. :3 *runs*

Originally Posted by Tk3997

I suppose though her personality dosen't really seem like the rush down sort to me. *shrugs* That tends to be the domain of the hot blooded loons and such I'd have pegged her as a slower more methodical type fighter myself, but then again her characterization is at this point rather... pliable. That has up and downsides means you can do lots of stuff with her character wise, but also means that her history and backstory is rather thin.

Call me crazy, but Syn strikes me as very much an "act first, think second" character...

Now that I'd have zero issue with, but I HIGHLY doubt Kha would be amendable to such a thing he seems extremely dedicated to the idea that divine beings and magic are very real in Nanoha despite an almost total lack of even hints of such in canon.

No, I actually think that idea has merit. Especially given the potential for...twists, should the Clerics find this out.

Originally Posted by Sheba

What about the uncommon kusarigama?

Spoiler:

Sword & gun combo

Nothin' against sword and gun combo at all.

Kusarigama, on the other hand...now there's a wacky weapon.

Originally Posted by Keroko

You Don't see them generally, but Revolver Knuckle uses a... well, revolver loading system. There is one time where it is displayed in full view:

Spoiler for IS: Silver Retriever:

I actually made a note of that when I first watched StrikerS; I was wondering how her cartridges were so tiny-looking when normal ones are large bullet-sized.

The red worked fine in the above shot... But I'll play with various screens and colors for a while, thanks for the input.

Olive-and-peach Jacket FTW!

*runs*

Define 'rush down.' She doesn't buldozer in without a plan (having low armor, that gets you killed the moment you're up against a smart oponent) but uses her speed to her advantage, getting close before the enemy has a chance to react (circumstancial, but its the idea) or getting behind them and lay traps. Analyze, use the speed and agillity to avoid attacks while revealing none of yours untill you know you can strike.

Hm. Interesting.

Originally Posted by Kha

"The flat chest is a status symbol! :3"

"But you ARE worried aren't you?"

"..."

Pwn'd.

Someone's never heard of DFC...

*runs*

I don't know about that... Diabolic Emission, Bloody Dagger look like Shadow spells, Hrevelger is either Wind/Frost/Arcane, the rest are Frost... So given the number of Frost spells available to her, that looks like the spec...

Hmmm...Frost with a splash of Arcane, maybe?

I wish I am more dicotomious in my posts to that we can tell when I'm joking and when I'm not. :/

Hm.

*plays Dichotomancy on Kha*

There, that should do it. :3

[AdmiralTigerclaw]

Okay, full scale assault, all the Shock Enforcers and their commander in one shot...

Spoiler for Shock Enforcers:

Admiral H. Mishima



CALLSIGN: Thunderfist
RANK: Admiral
POSITION: Naval Commander, 3rd Fleet: CO of the Shock Enforcer Unit (Unit Creator)
AGE: 60
MAGE CLASS: S

Naval Commander Mishima for the TSAB Sailing Force, fifty year veteran, and high level close combat mage. A no nonsense, straight to the point officer with an attitude as hard as his skin.
This is one of the reasons Regius hated the Navy.
Admiral Mishima is, in a word: Elitist. He operates under the belief that mages should be tough in themselves, and has come to head many times with superiors. He simply takes good mages as he sees them to work in his unit, seeing the Navy as the real force that can go anywhere, and do anything. And with this attitude, has pissed off many TSAB officials over the years.
It is with grudging respect however, that they allowed him to climb the chain of command to the rank of Admiral, because despite as much as they started to hate his existence, he tended to be right in his actions, and was just plain good at what he did. (It also helped that asside from being blunt and telling others, even superiors, when they were wrong... he wasn't the kind to rub it in.)

Mishima is a close range mage, and isn't afraid, even at his age, to mix it up with a threat face to face. Often shocking other fleet commanders by showing blatent disreguard for his own well being to go right into action along side his subordinates. (Which incidently, earns a lot of respect from those that worked under him.)
Mishima is the kind to 'talk with his fists'. He's always had a deep dislike for shooting and bombardment magics, thinking the fighting should be done mono-a-mono, where he can look into the eyes of an enemy. As such, he knows no projectile based magics, and has an extreme focus on bare handed fighting, creating and perfecting physical fortifying techniques he would later teach Lynn.
It is said, that at full power, Mishima's skin is as hard as steel, and could deflect blades with ease. Whether this rumor is true or not is uncertain, but Mishima does have a device. Though he dislikes the advanced devices that are available in the TSAB, he has a limited Armed Device known simply as Tekken, a dual pair of armored gauntlets to allow him to create instant shields and allow him to parry bladed magical and non-magical weapons in combat.
On top of his fighting prowess, behind that vicious facade is a cunning mind that knows how to command a unit to victory, and isn't afraid to be rutheless in his execution. He is well known for his Shock and Awe strategies in combat situations.

With an oppertunistic political strategy as ruthless as his fighting style, it's really no surprise that only a week after the death of Regius, he took advantage of the loss of a major dissent to his policies and created the Shock Enforcers, a small elite unit of, while not necissarily ace mages, but extremely tough, hand picked mages, with the sole purpose of being an offensive strike team. Headed up by Lynn, who he is impressed with and considers a prodigy.

Mishima has met Nanoha, and while he has a certain level of Contempt for Admiral Lindy's motherly doting style of command, he has respect for the mages she's brought up due to how strong they have become.

It should be noted that Admiral Mishima was ranked number one on the list of mages Jail REALLY didn't want to piss off. Despite being a madman, Jail was NOT stupid, and made it absoultely clear that nobody was to provoke Mishima. He even went so far as to ensure that Mishima's task force was decoyed well away from Mid-Childa when he began the Cradle operation. Which was probably a good thing, considering with what Jail was attempting to do, Mishima was ready to rip right through the AMF filled warship with his bare hands. (Whether or not he could have done so remains unknown, but most bets are that Quatro would have ended the day with her spine ripped out of her chest rather than slightly singed by an amplified buster attack. Mishima was NOT happy.)


ABILITIES:

Iron Will, Fist of Steel
This basic body fortification technique was first developed long ago by the Belkens, and fell out of standing some time before the war, only to be passed down among masters of small schools of the fighting arts. As a student of one of these schools at a young age, it was a technique that became the foundation of Mishima's magical combat style to this very day. Rather than concentraiting mana into a spell, or into a device or element pattern, mana is focussed into the body, increasing strength, stamina, speed, and endurance beyond what most magical combatants could call 'human'. With fifty years to perfect his use of this ability, Mishima has been known to smash through reinforced concrete from a complete standstill, and sometimes, in a rage, rip entire buildings apart during a fight, usually completely terrifying even otherwise hardened criminals. (Though it takes a moderate amount of time to tear the building apart. It classifies as more COLLATTERAL really.)


Thunderstorm Fist
As a mage with an afinity towards electrical based magic elements, it is no wonder he has the callsign 'Thunderfist'. Augmenting his magical toughening, is a form of contact based lightning element magic. Basicly turning him into a walking livewire capable of imparting a significantly high electrical discharge in a punch. While redundant in ability next to the brute force Mishima can dish out, he has found it useful occaisionally when he's had to deal with Gadget Drones and other electrically sensitive items head on.

Flash Slam
Nothing More than a modified Flash Move, Mishima has altered it's use, using the sudden speed boost to turn himself into a fast moving battering ram. Excelent for those fights where he has to close the distance.


Genocide Dance
Mishima's favorite magically enhanced combo move. It is actually a combination of his Flash Slam, shifted into a rapid flurry of Iron Will reinforced martial arts moves. Observation counts ten individual blows in five seconds, with each blow capable of doing damage to objects made of reinforced concrete. It has been seen, that when he begins execution of the Genocide Dance, most, if not all opponents fall by the final blow. He has never actually gotten to test it out on anyone considered equal to himself.

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Lynn Ayame Bardou



CALLSIGN: Thanatos 1
RANK: Captain
POSITION: Elite Enforcer Unit Special Weapons And Tactics, Shock Enforcer
AGE: 28
MAGE CLASS: AAA


From age Six, Lynn had been enchanted with the idea of becoming an enforcer. It just tickled her pink to be a bringer of justice to the unjust, and creator of peace and prosperity.

Was she ever wrong.

Lynn's basic training began at a typical age, and normal was also her training. The only abnormality was her rather generous magical abilities. Something she attributed to a little bit of home magical practice before she joined.

But the calamity was during an active duty assignment. Herself and a small squad of Beaurau mages were to corner and arrest a notorious dimensional criminal on a remote world with a culture level of zero.
Something went horribly wrong. Not only was the mission a failure, but Lynn was the only survivor, barely able to give a report a month later.

Having been only just assigned as a squad leader for the mission, she felt the failure was completely her fault, and swore to never let it happen again. The deaths of seven mages, including her best friend from training, weighed heavily on her every day she was idle.

She worked her rehabilitation of her body to the point of near torturous pain in order to get back on her feet faster, bringing herself back to her previous shape, and farther as she worked to improve her skills.

News of her recovery went through the command rings until it hit the ears of Admiral Mishima. At first the Admiral didn't so much as bat an eye, but after curiously checking the full report, set asside time to watch the girl. Not two months later did he approach her with an offer to train her in combat methods beyond what the TSAB's official courses could offer.
But it came with a price.
He wouldn't just train her... she had to prove she could handle the training.

Lynn did not only agree, she took it as a personal challenge. Admiral Mishima taught her skills he himself learned years ago in a routine that most would find simply grueling. Only the famed White Devil that was becoming famous in the TSAB would even consider a similar level of punishment as a training routine.
But Lynn didn't give up, and proved the Admiral's faith in her determination by successfully following his routine to its completion.

After his training, Lynn still needed experience, and continued operating as an Enforcer, honing the skills she'd learned, and sharpening her disapline while modifying the techniques the Admiral taught her to fit her personal style more, as he had encouraged.

The next time the Admiral would approach her, would be the week following the death of Gaias Regius, proposing her to form the team leader of his new Shock Enforcer Unit, with all the privilages and responsibilities the squadron leader position were entitled.
"You are ready to be a leader now," He told her.

Lynn is equipped with a device called Waldron, an Axe styled intelligent device that strangly, lacks the cartridge system of other devices, but is built extremely solid with some of the best engineering in the TSAB. The device weighs six times the normal for devices of equal size. Her barrier jacket has a more utilitarian style to it, stressing Mishima's very straight forward 'no frills' influence.


ABILITIES:

Armed Device (Axe) 'Waldron' : Lynn is a master of pole armed close combat. Her intelligent device, Waldron, is a fearsome single bladed battle axe with a spear point on its head that holds a vicious ability to smash, cut, and peirce through obstacles at will. Foregoing the multiple forms of other devices, Waldron has been heavily reinforced and its abilities of regeneration made more powerful to stand up to the fearsom rigors Lynn will put it through. Considering projectile magics too slow to use, costly, and ineffective, Lynn's device operates almost exclusively in contact magic attacks.

- Raven Call (Logistic/Tactical): Lynn can summon Waldron from just about anywhere. Whether it is calling it to her side in battle, calling it from the corpse of a fallen enemy, or summoning it from a pool of magma (Okay, maybe not a pool of MAGMA...) Waldron obeys, and transports itself to her grasp. The range is limited though. The Raven call requires her to outstretch her hand and whistle where the device can 'hear' her and home in on her.
- Mjolnir Impact (Contact Offensive, protection barrier and shield breaker): *Pronunciation 'MUOLL-neer Impact' *
Concentraiting magical energy into the swing and leading blade edge of Waldron, the most common magical attack (Common being reletive.) Lynn has at her disposal is nothing short of getting straight to the point at maximum force. Upon impact, it detonates the energy in one direction, much like a shaped charge, designed to cause massive stress to barriers and provoke shattering. The attack has moderate effectiveness, but increased physical striking force, cartridge shots (Provided by add ons to her barrier jacket in one mission), or time to build the attack increases the likelyhood of successful shattering. Heavy Swings are often key to maximum effect, which if redirected or dodge leave Lynn overextended, off balance, and open to a counter-attack. For maximum effect, this attack is often coupled with a full scale body rush of some kind, usually exaggerated by movement magic into the force of a freight train. Most personal protection barriers cannot stand up to this much combined stress.


BARE HANDED:
Lynn was taught by the master of bare handed combat himself, Admiral Mishima. As such, the only thing more frightening than her Axe, his her fist, and all the punishment that comes with it.

- Iron will, Iron fist (Reinforcement, condition):
One of many skills Lynn learned and adapted from Admiral Mishima... Concentraiting magical energy into her arms, legs, and hands, Lynn turns her own limbs into tools of pure destruction, able to punch straight into solid plate steel without busting a knuckle. Able to guard from bladed devices and weak magical attacks with unshielded arms, to see her charging you down, and batting stinger blades and axel shooters asside is simply a psychological horror for any conventional mage. This does require active concentraition however, and is very physically draining with extensive use. Lynn tries to limit usage to around ten seconds, and keep her fights extremely short.


- Flash Step (Movement, instantanious)
Flash Step is to Lynn, what Sonic Move, and Flash move are to other mages. Unlike normal flash moving, which carries momenum after accellerating, Flash Step litterally starts, and stops, in one step. Lynn will use it both in the air, or on the ground, to instantly cover distances to the precise spot she wishes to be in the blink of an eye. It requires extreme concentraition however, and even so much as a blink of a distraction can have her tumbling head over heals upon her exit. Actually taught to her by Mishima in the form of his Flash Slam attack, she worked hard to improve her control of the force to come to a stop, rather than just launch forward.


- Flash Dance (Movement, continuous)
Flash step taken to the extreme. It requires Lynn's entire focus and willpower to keep this technique up. She litterally moves continuously at the speed and pacing of a flash step or sonic move, appearing to be a blur at best to the average mage. Like the simplified Flash Step, if her concentraition breaks anywhere for even a moment, she goes flying. In order to keep this up, she also needs to be in Full Drive, or she'll lose speed after only a few 'steps'. Even Mishima admits this is a technique he'd never be able to match without another sixty years to go at it again.


SPECIALS/EQUIPMENT

FORE-CASTER
Just below the shoulder on each arm, one will note three dark bands apiece. These six bands are mana collectors. They gather mana over time from Lynn and feed the readied energy to a pair of gold ornaments on the back of each hand. (Four in total.)

Each of these ornaments is a pre-casting (Fore... caster.) spell holder, and can hold enough energy to cast one of Lynn's typical mid-range spells, allowing her to fire off an attack spell instantly the very moment an oppertunity presents itself.
However once discharged, these ornaments must be recharged before they can be used. Recharging actively typically takes the same amount of time as casting the spell normally. If Lynn recharges them all at once, it would take about the same amount of time as casting four mid level spells... which could take about two minutes.
Passive charging, relying on absorbing mana energy from Lynn, typically takes longer, usually about two minutes apiece... meaning it could take her up to eight minutes to fully recharge all four ornaments in a fight, so long as she doesn't immediately use the spells as they become available.
Another drawback, is that the ornaments will not maintain a charge without a constant in-flow. As soon as the mana stops flowing, the ornaments begain to lose energy. This usually isn't a problem in a fight, but must be considered both before battle, and during luls in battle. They don't start in a fully charged state. Of course, this could also be seen as a safety precaution. The ornaments containing her charges could become a hazzard if damaged, and a good hit would render them protentially explosive, just like cartridges.
For backup purposes, Lynn has two more attatched to the boot of each foot, which she could switch out with her primaries in the event of damage and insufficient time for her barrier jacket to go through the repair process.
The exact reason Lynn uses this modified version of the instant spell card system, over the proven and effective cartridge system is unknown, but perhaps it is a lingering fear of being cutoff from help, and losing the logistics support that entails. However, the ability to instantly cast a spell charge without having to go through the slow tedium of preparation in the middle of a fight has proven to be quite useful.


- Heavenly Descent (Signature Combination Move):
If Lynn has a target in her sight right at the opening of the fight, she will use this to try and start, AND FINISH, the fight. Starting from altitude, she will approach the target while applying flash dance to accellerate, build energy into Waldron for Mjolnir Strike, and then she will employ short range transfer/movement magic at the same time, and attempt to cover over a kilometer of distance to close combat range in no time flat and hit full force with Waldron...
To those who've been caught by this attack, it appears as if Lynn emerges from a fireball descending from the skies to deliver divine punishment in a single axe blow of judgement.

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Alexander Vladius Carrde



CALLSIGN: Nightmare
RANK: Leiutenant
POSITION: Information Management Specialist/Combat Illusionist.
AGE: 27
MAGE CLASS: AAA


Alex had been a very troubled child, a child with incredible talent, the talent for magic. Hailing from Victoria City, Mid-childa, an area that seemed to almost reject the very idea of Magic and Beaurau authority long after it's founding. His parents had seen him as a freak of nature, and felt ashamed of this, keeping him locked up in his formative years, and treating him like he was a special case. He developed sociopathic tendancies, even as he secretly improved his powers through the use of his imagination when he was alone, creating intracate illusions to keep himself occuepied as he read books. With the practice on his own, he eventually created illusion magic so powerful that he could alter what his environment looked like to suit his whim.
It was with great regret what happened around age nine. Terrified by one of his most frighteningly real illusions about a battle of darkness, his parents had inadvertantly thrown themselves off a balcony to escape a messy and painful death from 'demons'.
The investigation into their deaths turned out to be nothing more than officially filed as an 'accident'. Yet the TSAB saw the Potential in Alexander. He accecpted the invitation into the Beaurau, rather than be sent to some foster home.

Alexander proved to be more than most Beaurau trainers could actually handle. The boy was deeply rooted in Sociopathic tendancies as a result of his early years. He had no respect for anyone, and only listened to orders if the instructors proved to be competent, or threatening to simply drop him. But his illusions magic was something of awe. During one training session, Alexander fabricated a complete local illusion that affected twelve different people simultaniously into seeing their own personal variant to a hellish training accident, in which their own friends died in messy ways. After he pulled away the illusion and showed everyone that nothing had actually happened, all twelve people needed psychiatric treatment for Post Traumatic Stress Disorder.

It was, Admiral Mishima that finally knocked some semblance of respect into Alex. Hearing of the troublemaker, he personally went to observe this phenominal illusionist. What he found disgusted him.
Alexandler, seeing this so called 'Admiral', decided to challenge him. What transpired, had to be the single greatest humbling the boy had ever experienced. Unleashing horrendous illusionary terrors at the Admiral, he was shocked when Mishima simply scoffed them off, ignored the entire imaginary facade, and socked the frail boy full force in the face.
"You're living in a dream world boy." Were the first true words the Admiral Spoke. The Admiral took it upon himself to oversee the continuation of Alexander's training, teaching the mage tactics and information management, true skills to fit his ability to manipulate the information of his environment, all the while solidifying Alex's respect for the aging Admiral.

As he grew, so did his mastery and creativity. Instead of exaggerated illusionary horrors, Alex turned his illusions towards the subtle, creating dynamic scenarios against real opponents with the subtle maddening effect of the dripping water faucet you just can't stop. Along with this came assistance from trained shooting mages in the arts of defensive shooting magic. Carrde earned his true callsight, Nightmare, and his position as one of Mishima's best to earn a spot on the Shock Enforcers as Thanatos 2.

Hardenned by Mishima's influence, Alexander finds it difficult to respect most people, seeing them as hypocrites. Respect from him must be earned, by deeds, not words.

Alexander is armed with two devices. Teppes, a pair of sunglasses that act as amplifiers to his illusionary magic, allow him to broadcast his illusions to a large area... and Baskerville, his armed device: The culmination of his shooting skills, a small powerful magical hand gun with a built in AI to assist him. Though he rarely uses the two in concert to their fullest ability, the very idea of not knowing exactly what's going on, and that he may shoot you right in the back in the middle of it would be unnerving even to hardened aces.

ABILITIES:

- Illusion Magic (Basic)
Basic Illusion magic. Conventional Decoys, even multiples, are easy for him.

- Obfuscate
Like decoy illusion magic, but Alexander found something of a reversal to it. Instead of projecting images of himself, he'd project images of his environment onto himself, and appear invisable.

- Dooms-Daydream
This is pretty much his signature ability. The ability he developed as a child to completely shift the perception of those in the environment around him. An ability he can use to completely isolate and terrify his opponents, confuse, trap, and otherwise screw with their heads. He enjoys watching his enemies squirm when he does it, and in fact, as his euphoria increases, so does the strength and complexity of the illusion. (It's Adrenaline Rush.)

- Flight
Alexander has been taught to fly, and he loves to make use of it. Alexander can often be found floating, hovering, flying, or just plain reclining in mid air as if sitting in a chair.

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Abbigail Granger



CALLSIGN: Wyatt Earp -or- Wyatt (Thanatos 3)
RANK Leiutenant
POSITION: Precision Marksman, ranged shooting specialist.
AGE: 24
MAGE CLASS: C


'Abby' grew up on a sparsely populated world a considerable distance from Mid-Childa. A world that for the most part, still Wild by modern terms. As such, from an early age, she learned how to use firearms. Often practicing with pistols and target shooting, even competing in target and speed shooting competitions. A bit of a tomboy, she would often adventure out into the woods and fields surrounding her home town with her favorite pistol strapped to her hip.
It became clear just how advanced her marksmanship skills were during Admiral Mishima's investigation into a Mass Weapons smuggling ring that had been illegially exporting arms off the planet. One of his investigative mages had become lost from the main search group in the forest near Abby's home, and had been attacked by one of the larger, magic sensitive animals that lived there. The Beaurau mage was saved by a precision hip shot from Abbigail's rated .45 calibur revolver to the creature's head, from a hundred meters away. Abby had never thought anything of the shot. Mishima was impressed. (Mishima is NEVER impressed.) He gave her the option to join the TSAB.
Being adventurous, she jumped at the offer to see new worlds, and was quickly sent to Mid-Childa for training.
During the qualifications and training to become a shooting mage, the full extent of her abilities were tested. Abby barely ranks C class in magical ability, barely enough power to create magic bullets, let alone fight as a combat mage... and to make matters more complicated, her trusty pistol was considered illegal in the TSAB. In order to compensate for this, Mishima had her pistol redesigned as a magical device.. The concept was so identical to the mechanics Abbigail had been used to all her life that she made the switch in a single practice session, successfully scoring EXPERT rating in from the hip shooting rated for magic rifle users and qualifying with hip shots against sniper rated targets.

With the help of a customized quickloader, Abby is capable of firing six shots, reloading her cartridges, and unloading those following six downrange, accurately, in under three seconds, making her the fastest, and most accurate hip-shooter in the TSAB. It's a shame her custom mini-cartridges are more expensive than the generic ones. However, it has been arranged for her to have a more powerful shotgun styled device in the times when she needs more firepower, and that uses normal cartridges.

Abby is quite a sweet character, loving to talk to people, and an equal love of shooting, but she hates to fight. She'd rather have a fun target shooting competition than incapacitate people. However, when she decides to fight, even melee fighters have come to respect he inexorable skill with her revolver. She's also quite a well endowed individual, which helps to further disarm unsuspecting opponents.

Abby is number three of Thanatos Squadron of the Shock Enforcers, earning the position on raw skill over any magical talent.


DEVICES:

-THUNDER SIX-
Six Shot, cartridge powered revolver. Armed device. Takes custom made mini cartridges to produce magic bullets.

**RELOAD:

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-FLANAGAN-
Shotgun styled shooting device, uses full sized cartridges.


ABILITIES:

SHOOTING:
Barely ranking any magical power, Abbigail has to rely almost exclusively on her own physical skill and outstanding accuracy. In fact, as mentioned, her devices require miniature cartridge shots just for the power to fire a single magic bullet, making an extended fight for her a potential logistics breakdown. Thankfully, her speed and accuracy in all aspects of shooting make even trained soldiers gawk. Hip shots are tough enough, as are hundred meter shots with pistols. But hip-shots at a hundred meters with a pistol are something few have ever been able to claim.

ACCURACY = -GODLIKE!-

About the only extra magical trick she really knows, is boosted jumping skills, which she abuses to no end with silly acrobatics displays.

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Gray Edwards



CALLSIGN: Ninjamaster (Thanatos 4)
RANK: Leiutenant
POSITION: Infiltration and Close Combat Support, Shock Enforcers
AGE: 30
MAGE CLASS: B

Considered one of the TSAB's successful failure's Leitenant Gray Edwards of the Shock Enforcers, is a case of one man's ego and dreams far exceding his attitude.
From a young age, Gray was obsessed with Ninja. So much so that he went to great lengths to find all the resources he could on them, and learn their techniques.
Over this time, he found mountains of fictional information, with sprinkles of truth. Training himself through some of the most idiotic routines imaginable. It would come to pass, that through all of this, Gary completely failed at becoming the skilled master ninja legend he'd been dreaming of.
However, through all this training, his body had become the peak of human fitness, and even with all the foolish techniques, he has picked up a few natural ninja techniques. Despite being six feet tall, he is exceptionally quiet, and capable of moving through crowded areas completely undetected. The TSAB were quick to snatch up this raw potential when he finally applied.

Unfortunately, they learned one of the reasons WHY he wasn't a legendary ninja master. His attitude. Gray likes two things, showing off, and girls. While his skills aren't legendary, his ego sure is. Gray will often do extremely risky stunts, and act with more brazen competency than he has shown in actual merit, often getting him into situations where he has been forced to literally fight his way out, more than once.... often getting beaten up quite badly and losing face in the process. It has been noted that litterally, in the official record, if he ever says the words 'watch this...', something bad will probably happen.

Only lately under the strict guidance of Admiral Mishima has Gray mellowed out quite a bit and grown more into his potential as a close combat infiltrator, adding an edge of dissapline he so desperately needed to rise to his earlier dreams and expectations.

As far as mages go, he's mediocre at best. Unable to fly, but able to wield enough magic to be useful, he relies heavily on his strength, skill, and size to do his dirty work. His armed device, which he personally named Murasami after a Ninja blade in one of his refferences, is his primary means of combat, a deviced-up Katana style blade capable of launching weak magic attacks with a swing or a stab. Most of his fighting skill is learned through practice as a TSAB enforcer under Admiral Mishima.
His most noted ability though, comes from years of stupid 'watch this' moments, an extemely high tolerance for pain, and a natural damage soaker of sorts, especially when enraged. He's taken more physical injuries, and managed to continue through the pain until he's managed to show off just how hardcore he really is. While it has been noted to be foolish, the fact that he could do so even after having an arm mangled to the point where other people would go into shock has earned him a 'small' base of respect.


- Abilities

Ninja LIGHT: Gray knows a few skills, such as absolute silence, balance, power jumping, and advanced unsupported climbing. Along with his top level physical fitness, he is quite tough before magic comes into the equation.

Demonic Strike: Gray's magical Limit Break is pretty much the only high level magic he can really pull off. An amplified magical airburst similar to a buster barrel shot... the attack actually has mechanics similar to Nanoha's Starlight Breaker, in that asside from base level mana, it pulls magical energy out of the environment to power the full brunt of the attack. The attack is actually quite flashy, tearing up rocks and concrete around him as he prepares to strike, and glowing with electical sparks, before unleashing a flaming blast.
Unfortunately, the attack is more flashy than powerful, just like Gray... having actually ONLY the power of a mid-level buster attack, and after using it just once, Gray is pretty much completely wiped out, and immediately drops. It has been known to psych out his opponents though. Making them waste way too much mana in defense, or simply cowering in fear.

I tore Lynn's history down and worked off a Mishima base instead. She starts out typical, but ends up in a seriously screwed up mission, and blames her own weakness for it, and developes her drive and determination. Mishima takes that and in turn teaches her his hard learned tricks and forges a strong mage out of her.

I've scrapped half the Lind power concepts and I'm just going to ignore cool and spear mint until some later date. Right now she's just Lynn.

As for the rest, I did Alexander's profile today, and did the check on Abby's to take care of the minor problem.

Incidently, in Gray's profile, they managed to get a photo of him just after he finished showing off for a cute girl... They figured that was a more accurate portrayal of his face...

[Keroko]

Originally Posted by krisslanza

@Keroko:
Wouldn't the sword need a core since its a separate device? I wasn't sure if a device was capable of being split into two separate forms; we've seen a device split into two of the same weapon (Riot Zamber) but I'm not sure if it could sustain two separate forms.

Not necisarilly. If the sword is an Armed Device there is no 'need' for a core, but it you want a guard you could always make a core in the handguard.

Originally Posted by Kha

"The flat chest is a status symbol! :3"

"But you ARE worried aren't you?"

"..."

Pwn'd.

Pwn'd indeed.

makes for a great quirk though, tall yet flat. One more thing to be insecure about.

Originally Posted by Kha

It's compulsory, so they are the odd one out in a mech Tau unless loaded into a fish for epic expenses. Also, mech Tau is so heavy on tanks I need shoe-boxes to carry them around.

So far I've trimmed it to 2 WarFishes and 1 RailHead, and loaded up on 2-man Broadside teams, plus a Pathfinder squad for pining and Markelights. Reorganizing my Tau FWs too, and debating Seeker upgrades. At this level though, I realized that 1500 points is actually very small...

Simple answer to the shoe-box problem: Broadsides. :3 Sure, you need to alter your tactis, but propperly build and painted these things can be real beauties.

Originally Posted by Kha

I see... TSAB are first surprised, and get pwn'd, then they start using their brains a little and stall this advance. OCs arrive/Deep Strike, lay waste, Necrons announce their reply, scrum ensues...

WoW I actually have an idea how the battle'd progress now.

Good.

Originally Posted by Kha

"Lok'Thar o'gar, Friend. I trust that the Deep Sleep hasn't cause you any harm." ~ Warchief Thrall, to a newly unfrozen Orc.

Thrall greets the new players? Playing as Orks rocks.

Originally Posted by Kha

I don't know about that... Diabolic Emission, Bloody Dagger look like Shadow spells, Hrevelger is either Wind/Frost/Arcane, the rest are Frost... So given the number of Frost spells available to her, that looks like the spec...

Actually, the only frost spell was Atem des Eises. Mistiltein was a petrification spell (Arcane, maybe shadow), and Ragnarok Breaker was clearly Arcane.

Originally Posted by Kha

Kha is one, and Khrack has it that a spark of insanity had him going LEEEEROOOOOY JEEEENKIIINSSSSSS!!! and breaking open Number cylinders... with the same end result.

Fate: Kha, you are such an idiot.

Kha: It's not my fault!

Originally Posted by Kha

Side-characters aren't bad; in fact, AL is perfectly forgiving to that really. It's like adding another Ace to the Nanohaverse, which you've done very well.

It's pretty cool to write the battle in which your character looses.

Originally Posted by LimitedEternal

Point A: Yes, it's gonna be hard to fight with a swallow, or any other dual-bladed weapon. Darth Maul probably didn't pick it up in a day either. Looks damn cool if you're skilled with it, though.

Eh, they're not that bad. You just have to remember that it's not a sword or a staff.

Originally Posted by LimitedEternal

Nah, I think red's the best. The blue one just looks too...uniform with her hair.

Besides, red ones go faster. :3 *runs*

... Red ones go faster?

Originally Posted by LimitedEternal

Call me crazy, but Syn strikes me as very much an "act first, think second" character...

That's more Keroko's territory. Syn at least has a small train of thought before it, though she may end up discarding it.

Originally Posted by LimitedEternal

Olive-and-peach Jacket FTW!

*runs*

Syn: ... Die.

[FlameSparkZ]

Originally Posted by LimitedEternal

Nah, I think red's the best. The blue one just looks too...uniform with her hair.

Besides, red ones go faster. :3 *runs*

Well, choosing the right colors for the clothes is important, you have to take the character's traits into account.
I've seen artwork scans of game/anime characters before their appearance and colors were decided, some did look cool, but others were just plain wierd >_>

Originally Posted by Keroko

... Red ones go faster?

Gundam 00 reference...the "Trans Arm" or whatever it is named
It makes the Gundam glow red and drastically increases its speed.

*runs*

[Jimmy C]

Originally Posted by AdmiralTigerClaw

Lynn is equipped with a device called Waldron, an Axe styled intelligent device that strangly, lacks the cartridge system of other devices, but is built extremely solid with some of the best engineering in the TSAB.

You should be clearer that it's the lack on a carttridge system on a neo-Belkan device that's strange. Mid-style devices generally don't have them in the first place.

I've scrapped half the Lind power concepts and I'm just going to ignore cool and spear mint until some later date.

A wise decision, I'd have to say. Those two are overpowered, even for a goddess. AMG's angels are the opposite in operation from Unison Devices too. They are deployed as extra combatants, not joined in to improve performance.

[Keroko]

Originally Posted by FlameSparkZ

Well, choosing the right colors for the clothes is important, you have to take the character's traits into account.
I've seen artwork scans of game/anime characters before their appearance and colors were decided, some did look cool, but others were just plain wierd >_>

*nod nod* Words of truth, those. That's why I'm taking my time and experiment.

Originally Posted by FlameSparkZ

Gundam 00 reference...the "Trans Arm" or whatever it is named
It makes the Gundam glow red and drastically increases its speed.

*runs*

*googles* ... You know, the funny part is that I can use this. Nanoha is filled with winks to the mecha world, and this looks to be the perfect wink for Syn. :3

Originally Posted by Jimmy C

A wise decision, I'd have to say. Those two are overpowered, even for a goddess. AMG's angels are the opposite in operation from Unison Devices too. They are deployed as extra combatants, not joined in to improve performance.

... Uhm, we are reading the same manga, aren't we? 'Cause last I checked, angels are joined with their godesses and improve performance.

[Aaron008R]

Will tackle the backlog later. But for now, it's time to introduce the 'Prince'.

~Rebuilt of~
~Grandis Lacetti~

Basic Stats:

Spoiler for Basic Stats:

Name: Grandis Lacetti
Nickname: Masoukishi (Elemental Knight), Youhei no Ohji (Mercenary Prince)
Aliases: Strega Belgrande, Lastoll la Wenter, Jeifar Solgady, Rujanol Altis, Jaohm Ganador, Camaro Rafalle
Callsign: None
Gender: Male
Age: 26 (2 years after StrikerS. He's 5 years older than Hayate)
Birthday: 13th November in the Earth Calendar
Occupation/s: Used to be a Knight in training in Saint Church; now a Mercenary mage.
Rankings: N/A, Estimated to be around an AAA+ Air-Knight
Height: 5'11"
Weight: 164 lbs.
Eyes: Blue
Hair: Black, shoulder-length
Magic style: Neo Belka
Magic Color: Dark Violet
Magic Capacity in Units: 897,000
Usual wear: Dirty white jacket over a violet shirt, blue pants and worn boots
Specialization: Melee
Devices: Gottes Rächer (Divine Avenger)
Seiyuu: Hikaru Midorikawa (Using Li Xingke voice from Code Geass R2)

Profile:

Spoiler for Profile:

A survivor of a Lost Logia incident seventeen years prior to StrikerS. Being orphaned at the age of 7, he was adopted in one of the orphanages in the Belkan self-administered region, Saint Church. Later on, he was given the choice to become a Knight in service of the Saint Church. He accepted and went into training there. He showed tremendous potential with his rare skill and high magic capacity. However, he abandoned his path to Knighthood for some unknown reason around eight years before StrikerS. He is now currently working as a mercenary in the less-influential worlds administered by TSAB.

He was born to the relatively new Administered Planet called Duraxyll, sired by Granveil Lacetti, a then very powerful Knight Enforcer under the service of TSAB and Eulidia Lacetti, a third-generation resident of the said planet. He also had a 2-year old sister of the name Zenidia Lacetti. As a child, he was extremely precocious and talented kid with an active drive to be like his father, whom he idolized to a great degree. His father, Granveil Lacetti, was the member of the now-defunct Spectral Enforcers, serving as an S-ranked magic-user of the Belka style (just like Zest Grangeitz) and leader of the group. His early childhood was one what you’d call typical, as he was just a very normal despite being talented young boy. He was supposed to join the TSAB’s Magic Academy when he finally reached ten years of age. He also had two significantly older friends who were the youngest members of the Spectral Enforcers, a boy namd Aurion Dauer and a girl named Almaria Corvette; two people whom he shared an atypical closeness with. All seemed fine, as he and the rest of Granveil’s family would soon move to Mid-Childa since Duraxyll was too far away for Grandis’ education. However, that fateful day came…

The Perfect Void Incident, one of the biggest blunders of the TSAB that caused the destruction of more than 3/10 the entire mass of Duraxyll to a large dimensional dislocation, immediately ending the lives of billions of the population and the subsequent ‘death’ of the planet itself; the incident that would be forever masked under the category of ‘Accidents Regarding Lost Logia’, never to be remembered aside from the shard of terror that would be forever embedded in the hearts of the survivors…

It may have been dumb luck, but Grandis was one of the very few survivors of the Perfect Void Incident on the side of the planet where the Dimensional Dislocation occurred. He was saved somehow and brought to wherever he can be adopted, in this case, Saint Church. He was treated extensively for the severe psychological and emotional trauma that he sustained. When he recovered, he has become a silent and reclusive person who had obtained a terrible curse… being an unwilling spring of the Elements of Nature…

He was an outcast, both by his peers and by his elders due to his ‘monstrous’ abilities. And it didn’t help that his powers were out of his control… he would cause several unnatural elemental phenomena unintentionally whenever he became emotionally unstable, causing collateral damage a fair number of times. His first friend in his new domicile would be the future leader of the Self-Administered Region of Belka: Carym Cracia, whom befriended him regardless of his and other people’s reservations. Another one would be the person whom he would later regard as his mentor and surrogate father, Zamzeed Tacuma, a Belka Schwert Meister whom was also Granveil Lacetti’s mentor before. He would also later find friends in Sister Schach, Verossa Acous and Kha Alexie Testarossa.

Going by a few more years, he is now a Knight in Training and is able to control his powers, with much help on Zamzeed’s part. He was also one of the few exceptions to receive his own device even before being sired as a Knight, a specialized Armed Device augmented by Mid-Childan technology, a pure white sword which helped him control the elements better, which he named Gottes Rächer (Divine Avenger). He proved to have tremendous potential and was to take the examination to become an official Knight under the service of the Saint Church. However, he was apparently unable to let go of the fragments of his past and the entire world he lost, making him decline from taking the test and instead requested his Meister, Zamzeed if he could first travel the dimensional world and find his calling, and the fact that he felt he needed to do something first before pledging an oath of untainted loyalty to the Saint Church. His mentor was troubled, but was later persuaded by an insistent Grandis and surprisingly, Carym herself, who trusted that Grandis wouldn’t stray from his path. He set off with blessings from both, also with the promise to his master that he wouldn’t use his sword in betrayal against the Knight’s doctrine.

He travelled several planets, later on becoming a mercenary under several aliases; the most prominent one being Strega Belgrande. Thru all these, he always felt a feeling of regret and unexplainable discontent inside the deep recesses of his mind and heart… though part of the reason is that his personal record is not as clean as desired; owing to the fact that it is rather inevitable that being a mercenary for a certain period of time entails involvement in some unsavory dealings. He rose thru the ranks and became a rather popular (in both positive and negative ways) mercenary, being known for two predominant monikers. First was ‘Masoukishi’ (Elemental Knight) despite his insistence against the claim that he never deserved the title of Knight. The second is ‘Youhei no Ohji’ (Mercenary Prince); a title that is either used in respect or in derision, depending no the person referring to him as such. He wanted to keep using his real name of Grandis Lacetti, but opted to switch aliases a fair number of times in his years as a mercenary. Some of these aliases are Lastoll la Wenter, Jeifar Solgady, Rujanol Altis, Jaohm Ganador and Camaro Rafalle. Partly due to this, the titles of Elemental Knight and Mercenary Prince stuck out the most.

Years later, he would learn of the survival of a certain person in his past… triggering an explosion of incredible hatred to flair up in his heart. This person is the reason behind his destroyed world, his lost family, his entire life before the ruin of Duraxyll. In his mind, he has decided that he has found his calling before he can settle down as a servant of Belka. And this goal is… Vengeance… Against the person called Aurion Dauer…

The wheels of lost time have started moving… And thus, GenerationS, begins…

Personality:

Spoiler for Personality:

Once upon a time a very precocious child with a sharp wit and tongue, Grandis is now a usually serious and silent person with an aura of dignity. Despite being in the more often than not violent world of mercenaries, he is known for being a very formal person. He speaks formally in a way akin to how nobles would talk, at first earning him the scorn of the unpolished mercenaries and other people in the less-savory districts of ordered space. Many of them took his mannerisms as an intentional high-and-mighty act. (Yes. He’s a ‘watashi’ kind of person. As in, he refers to himself using ‘Watashi’ instead of the more usual ‘Ore’ or ‘Boku’ for characters like him. And of course, his speech is formal. Using ‘desu’, ‘arimasu’, the works.) However, when he soon proved his prowess, this fact helped his reputation grow in an unexpected way, earning him the nickname ‘Ohji’ (Prince) due to his manner of speaking and acting that showed a high upbringing. This can be attributed to Zamzeed’s (who was somewhat of a noble himself) way of raising him.

Though he may now appear tough and aloof, he has a surprisingly gentle personality and manner of acting. He also seems to have a high level of honor that you would most likely never find in any other mercenary in ordered space. Grandis is a very serious and no-nonsense person who would appear aloof at first glance, but he is very loyal and dependable. Up to now, he clandestinely harbors utmost loyalty to the Saint Church he abandoned in his quest for answers, which tends to have an effect to the kinds of contracts he takes. This attitude is a big folly for being a mercenary, but his power, skills and reputation allows him to have a degree of freedom in associating with the kinds of contractors that he wishes. Once again, another character trait that lends credibility to his nickname as the ‘Prince’ of mercenaries.

He does have a fair number of non-mercenary acquaintances that he met along his journeys. Though calling them friends is a bit of a stretch because Grandis has purposely avoided being too involved with other people so as not to involve them with his activities. But some of them were lucky enough to see Grandis’ lighter side, which is quite amusingly earnest and engaging; as well as being slightly lazy on some occasions to the point of sleeping three times a day. He is also quite surprisingly stubborn, as well as having a forceful personality if he ha a goal in mind.

During battles, he usually goes straight into the fray and finishes the battle as quickly as possible. Of course, he plans out his actions before doing them. He’s usually a soloist, but can handle team-play if need be. He is never been seen for too long with a certain group of fellow mercenaries, though he seems to appear alongside the veteran mercenary named Versa Rheinland the most.

Relationships:

Spoiler for Relationships:

He had a relatively normal life as a kid. His father named Granveil Lacetti was a Knight working for TSAB (and also the leader of the Spectral Enforcers), his mother called Eulidia was an owner of a market in their planet, and a younger sister named Zenidia. It just happened that their home-planet, Duraxyll, which was just a rather new Administered Region of TSAB, became the base of operations of the ‘Messengers of the Void’ after they desolated a planet. This turn of events would start the countdown to the subsequent destruction and rebirth of Grandis’ world…

Spoiler for Before and During Nanoha Series:

Before and During the Nanoha Series:

The Lacetti Family: He was very close with his family during his early childhood. His father, despite being away usually for his job as an Elite Enforcer was very close with his family and served as Grandis’ role model. He idolized his father a lot and dreamt of becoming like him someday. His mother, Eulidia, was a very gentle but strong woman who cared deeply about her family. She was Grandis’ primary teacher and source of parental affection. As such, Grandis had a very deep attachment to her. His sister, Zenidia, was at first slightly unlikeable for him. But something happened that made Grandis fiercely protective of her. Needless to say, Grandis’ family almost meant everything for him then, only to be torn apart by the workings of fate and left behind as the only survivor of the Lacetti bloodline…

Aurion Dauer: Aurion was one of Grandis close friends during his childhood. More details to come as GenerationS progresses.

Almaria Corvette: Almaria was one of Grandis close friends during his childhood. More details to come as GenerationS progresses.

Zamzeed Tacuma: During his term in Saint Church, he was cast out by most of his peers because of his barely under control elemental powers. Only the more rational and older people there gave him consideration. One Knight in particular, Zamzeed Tacuma, who was the mentor of Granveil (Grandis’ father), took him under his wing as a Knight-in-training when he was 9. The process was tough, since they had to take into consideration Grandis’ elemental affinities. They took a whole year just to get over the problems. He was presented Gottes Racher, a sword meant to help him with his elemental control when he was 13. He was supposed to take his test to become a full-fledged Knight at 16 years of age, but he was a very honest person and could not take the oath of a clear mind with only the values of the Knight’s code. He didn’t go through the examination and later requested his mentor to allow him to find his own calling outside of the Church. Zamzeed was reluctant, but he later allowed Grandis to do it at the promise that he would not be a criminal nor use what he has learned in his years in the Saint Church in a wanton way.

Carym Gracia: The then future leader of the Self-Administered Region of Belka, Carym was the very first person near Grandis’ age that befriended him during his later childhood in Saint Church. Though even Grandis was afraid of becoming her friend due to the chance that he might hurt her unintentionally with his the out of control elemental powers, the kind-hearted girl persevered and managed to become his very first childhood friend in his new life as a resident of the Belka Region. Thanks to her, he was able to calm down and have less of the painful elemental bursts that came from his body. Subsequently, she also helped him open up to the world again; eventually being able to obtain new friends such as Schach, Verossa and Kha, except that Grandis wasn’t really that close with the others. Up to this day, he is extremely thankful for Carym saving him fro his downward spiral into emotional and mental oblivion. She was also the one who helped him convince Zamzeed to let him go on his own way in search for his answers and his calling (though she was worried herself). He left with blessings from Knight Carym. From what little is shown, he seems to hold her in reverence.

Sister Schach and Verossa Acous: <To be filled in later>

Kha Alexie Testarossa: (BLEARGH!!! NEED TO COMPUTE TEH KHRACK FIRST!!!)

Spoiler for GenerationS:

GenerationS Timeline:

Yagami Hayate: He first met Hayate by passing each other by the door. Unbeknownst to both of them, they would both later play very important roles in each other’s lives. They would cross paths again only ten years later… at opposing sides of a battlefield. Only time will tell what destiny has in store for the two of them.

The Other Three Aces: <Not yet available>

The Wolkenritter: <Not yet available>

Luozorl von Mazda: <Not yet available>

Lyriel el Mazda: <Not yet available>

The Crimson Wings: <Not yet available>

Versa Rheinland: <Not yet available>

Knight Armor:

Spoiler for Knight Armor:

<Being revised>

Device:

Spoiler for Device:

Gottes Rächer (Divine Avenger): An armed device taking the form of a double-edged two-handed longsword. It houses up to five cartridges at a time using a revolver loader above the hilt. The entire sword is almost entirely white, with the exceptions of a light blue cross-guard and pommel. Belka Runes are inscribed at the side of the blades (all of which are just for decorations and serves no other purpose). (Gottes Rächer’s appearance is based on the weapon called Divine Avenger from Star Ocean III: Till the End of Time)

It has a Full Drive mode, taking the appearance of a larger sword with a wider blade. The colors are inverted to primarily black and crimson. Though it can be only maintained at three minutes max since it strains his Linker Core. It allows him much better control in his elemental-combinations and shifting. (The Full Drive on the weapon called Levantine from Star Ocean III: Till the End of Time)

Fighting Style:

Spoiler for Fighting Style:

His fighting style is high-power, full-frontal melee. In short, he uses his sword in striking with extremely powerful spells while at close range. He has a number of ranged attacks, but he has a lot more for close-range. Additionally, the spheres scattered throughout the several parts of his armor are actually energy conduits, allowing him to cast spells thru his armor as easily as he can with his device. This makes him a most frightening adversary in close combat, as his entire body can be considered a weapon. Prior to becoming a mercenary, he was mostly a pure sword-fighter, but as time went on, in need to adapt to the harsh world of mercenaries, he developed his hand-to-hand fighting skills further with elements from several fighting styles he would see over the course of the years. However, he has some issues about fighting at long range since he only has few mid/long range normal attacks (with their respective variations), which aren’t very powerful in themselves. His other long range attack requires his Full Drive, which makes it unadvisable to use frequently.

Rare Skill:

Spoiler for Rare Skill:

Grandis’ rare traits are that: 1) He has multiple affinities to elements even though only one is possible with a single individual; 2) He is also able to influence his surroundings to a limited extent without spells. However, he cannot control all these elements simultaneously. Thru experience, it was learned that he needs to ‘switch’ between his affinities. For every affinity set he has, there is a primary and a complementary element present. His dominant elemental affinities are Fire, Ice and Lightning. The sub-elements to these are Earth to Fire, Water to Ice and Wind to Lightning. Many of his spells are variations of the same attack; with just a couple of unique ones that depends on the alignment. The primary elements fall under the category of “Elemental Affinity” while the complementary ones fall under “Elemental Manipulation”. To put it simply, he can naturally produce Fire, Ice and Lightning, but not Earth, Water and Wind. For the complementary ones, he must directly manipulate his surroundings in order to use such, but only to a limited extent.

Aside from this, his affinities could be best classified as ‘fake’ or ‘synthetic’. This is due to the unnatural coloration of his elemental affinities that are normally impossible. His fire is of deep red like blood. His ice is extremely dark blue. And his lightning is colored emerald green. Also, these elemental affinities are inherently harmful if used beyond a certain point. While normal people with elemental affinities can usually manifest such power without fear of damage to their own bodies, Grandis’ body suffers from the backlash of all three with extended use. For example, he can be burned by his own flames if used for too much. (Just how much is too much is to be shown later as the story arcs of GenerationS progresses.) Oddly, extensive manipulation of the complementary elements also tends to damage him by the same type of damage inflicted on him by the corresponding primary element partnered with the manipulated one. (Example: He eventually gets electric shocks from extensive manipulation of wind.) Owing to this, he is never able to reach the proficiency and extensive competency over any single element when compared to natural single-element users even if he trained extensively and mastered each one; for they will always be double-edged swords that can eventually harm him just as they harm the enemy.

As it turns out, the destruction of the Perfect Void altered him somehow to be capable of these. It did not come at a price, however. He was known for unintentionally causing small to large temperature shifts and occasional electrical grounds when he was still in Saint Church. These all reacted from his emotions, which were rather imbalanced because of the trauma of the incident. The several shifts caused him intense pain since he had little to no control of these. And to make things worse, it alienated him from the other children due to fear of him. He was branded a monster by the more cruel children there. As a result, he grew up rather antisocial. But he was still lucky enough to have several more understanding people to interact with during his time. He started his Knight training at nine years of age. Though troublesome at first, he was able to eventually able to control his multiple affinities to the level he can use them now.

Many alternatives and speculations were created, and Grandis eventually settled for the system that worked best. By theory, he can only use one affinity (with both the dominant and recessive elements) at a time. If he pushes himself in using more than one or using incompatible elements in his affinities simultaneously (such as using both Fire and Lightning at the same time), it has a negative effect on his physiology. For example, if he is currently using his Lightning/Wind affinity and tries to use the Fire element, he’d most likely to immediately burn himself from trying. He needs a full minute to shift his affinity type from one to another, and an additional minute cooldown before attempting so again. His shifts are only limited to three times a day or the strain will likely harm his body or the shift would simply fail if he tried.

The complementary element of another Elemental ‘Set’ is also generally unavailable. If he tries to do so, he would also damage himself by the corresponding primary damage of that other set. (Example: He’s currently using Lightning/Wind. If he tries to manipulate water, he’ll immediately experience damage related to freezing, actually risking the chance of becoming frostbitten.)

It is later revealed that prior to being altered by the Perfect Void; he had no elemental affinity in the first place; explaining his limitations on all the types of elements he can control.

Depending on the elemental affinities used, his melee specialization is altered accordingly. And even though his magic color is dark violet, the colors of some of his elemental attacks are variations of the normal coloration.

SPELL LIST:
Grandis spell list is classified under three categories. They usually depend on the type of Magic Color he is projecting at any given time.

Spoiler for All categories:

All categories: The following are his spells that are available regardless of his projected element.

Defensive Spells:

Panzerhindernis: A Belkan Barrier spell.
Defense: AAA+ geared for impact damage
Area: Two and a half meters

Panzergeist: A Belkan auto-guard spell. It forms around the user.
Defense: AA+

Panzerschild: A Belkan unidirectional defensive spell. Similar to Round Shield. Can be stacked.
Defense: AAA+ geared for magical damage
Area: Two and a half meters

Panzer Verschanzung: A combination-defense spell that Grandis created himself.
Defense: S+
Area: Three meters


Capture Spells:

Prison Bind: This is a simple but very sturdy bind. It’s very similar to physical ropes in nature and doesn’t need much maintenance once it is cast.
Binding power: AA
Binding speed: A
Range: AA

Struggle Bind: A strange addition to his spell arsenal as this is a Mid-childa spell. He was able to pick this up during his time as a mercenary. A very powerful bind that serves as a magical ‘ground‘. It can restrict a target from using their magical capabilities. It can also dispel magical effects like Transformation Magic. Grandis is capable of sealing other’s magic capability.
Binding power: AAA+
Binding speed: B
Range: C

Flame/Earth Set:

Spoiler for Flame/Earth Set:

When using the Fire/Earth affinity, his attack power is high with the sustained flames in his attacks. His defense is also at its peak since he can use Gaia Wall, which is his strongest elemental-class defense. His speed is the only one that suffers here because of his relatively slower invocation time for his spells here compared to the other affinities. Also, this affinity class is best suited for low altitude combat, preferably on ground level for maximum utility.


Offensive Spells:

Spoiler for Offensive Spells:

Flammenschneide (Flame Edge): Gottes Rächer is imbued with intense flames. This is similar to Signum’s Shiden Issen spell but lasts longer and is slightly less powerful. Using cartridges at this state boosts the flame’s power and mass significantly.
Attack Boost: A+ ~ AA+
Casting Speed: Three seconds
Duration: 5 minutes max

Flammenpfeil (Flame Arrow): Grandis’ basic shooting spells. Elementally-charged energy arrows surround him and are shot at the opponent/s at high speed. Up to six can be launched at once. This is a simple linear-trajectory spell that is not controlled once released.
Attack: B+
Speed: AA
Range: A-

Flammenhieb (Flame Slash): Usable when Grandis’ sword is charged with an element. He can now shoot the elemental force on his sword as energy-waves when he slashes. Up to four energy waves can be used in quick succession before having to cool down.
Attack: A
Speed: AA-
Range: B

Flame Shockwave: Pretty much self-explanatory. Columns of flames can be shot from his sword in a manner very similar to shockwaves.
Attack: AA+
Speed: AA
Range: A+

Avalanche Glaive: Gottes Rächer is thrust into the earth and rock spikes can propel out of the ground in Grandis’ given direction.
Attack: A+
Speed: AA
Range: B

Volcanic Buster: One of his more difficult but powerful spells. This involves thrusting Gottes Rächer into the ground and using both his fire and earth-elemental affinity to create magma to be sent spiraling against an opponent. The casting time is slow and the targets need to be relatively close to the ground for this to hit. But it is very powerful.
Attack: S
Speed: B+
Range: B+

Flammend Aura (Blazing Aura): His entire body is temporarily covered with flames.

Defensive Spells:

Spoiler for Defensive Spells:

Gaia Wall: His sword is plunged onto the ground, making columns of earth rise as a physical defense.
Defense: AAA+
Area: Twelve meters
Speed: AA-

Fire Wall: A barrier of flames is raised. It has a double-function of also damaging opponents.
Attack: AA
Defense: AA+
Area: Six meters
Speed: AAA

Flammenterrirotium: <Details later>

Water/Ice Set:

Spoiler for Ice/Water Set:

When using the Ice/Water affinity, his offense takes a steep drop in favor of more tactical applications for his ice-based moves. Instead of trying to damage the opponent/s straight out, their mobility is hindered by the ice, opening them for better attacks. His water control functions best when there’s a body of water nearby, allowing him to use it in confusing his opponents. Like the Fire/Ground affinity, this affinity is better suited for low altitude combat. High-speed underwater combat is possible in this form for a limited time.

Offensive Spells:

Spoiler for Offensive Spells:

Frost Klinge (Frost Blade): An extremely sharp crescent of ice covers Gottes Rächer’s blade. The things he cut also get a tough coating of frost. Loading cartridges at this state releases freezing mist around the blade.
Attack Boost: A- ~ AA-
Casting Speed: Four seconds
Duration: 8 minutes max

Eis Pfeil (Ice Arrow): Grandis’ basic shooting spells. Elementally-charged energy arrows surround him and are shot at the opponent/s at high speed. The shots can freeze targets. This is a simple linear-trajectory spell that is not controlled once released.
Attack: B-
Speed: AA+
Range: A

Eis Hieb (Ice Slash): Usable when Grandis’ sword is charged with an element. He can now shoot the elemental force on his sword as energy-waves when he slashes. The slash can freeze targets. Up to five energy waves can be used in quick succession before having to cool down.
Attack: A-
Speed: AA
Range: A-

Eis Windstoß (Ice Squall): Extremely cold gales coupled with sharp icicles are sent against an opponent. It can freeze opponents when subjected to it given enough time.
Attack: AAA-
Speed: AA
Range: B+

Eis Aura (Ice Aura): The temperature around Grandis drops dramatically, usually hindering opponents from moving and raising air humid for easier casting of water/ice attacks.

Defensive Spell:

Spoiler for Defensive Spells:

Water Wall: A barrier of water is raised. This usually needs a body of water nearby and can be used offensively
Attack: B+
Defense: AA
Area: Twelve meters
Speed: AA

Ice Wall: A barrier of thick ice is raised.
Defense: AAA-
Area: Six meters
Speed: AA

Eis Terrirotium: <Details Later>

Wind/Lightning Set:

Spoiler for Lightning/Wind Set:

When he uses his Lightning/Wind affinity, his attack power takes its standard peak. Also with a substantial boost in his speed due to wind manipulation; his capabilities for taking down adversaries quickly are at their highest here. However, he has the least powerful defenses in this state, hampering his ability to take hits. His ranged moves also reach farthest at this mode, but he still cannot use his ranged capabilities effectively at his current skill level. Thus, he usually uses his ranged attacks while rushing at the opponent.


Offensive Spells:

Spoiler for Offensive Spells:

Blitz Säbel (Lightning Saber): Several bolts of emerald lightning dances along Gottes Rächer’s blade. Out of all the elemental-powered sword modes Grandis has, this is the most fatal affect when the target is hit due to the electric shock it can give. Loading cartridges while in this state causes massive lightning surges along the blade. However, extended use of this is not advisable since it later causes electrically-induced numbness in Grandis’ hands.
Attack Boost: AA ~ AAA+
Casting Speed: Five seconds
Duration: 3 minutes max

Blitz Pfeil (Lightning Arrow): Grandis’ basic shooting spells. Elementally-charged energy arrows surround him and are shot at the opponent/s at high speed. This is a simple linear-trajectory spell that is not controlled once released.
Attack: A-
Speed: AAA-
Range: AA+

Blitz Hieb (Lightning Slash): Usable when Grandis’ sword is charged with an element. He can now shoot the elemental force on his sword as energy-waves when he slashes. Up to three energy waves can be used in quick succession before having to cool down.
Attack: AA-
Speed: AA+
Range: AA

Doppelsturm-Angriff (Dual Storm Assault): Grandis slashes upward, sending several extremely powerful blasts of damaging wind coupled with wreckage from the ground. He also levitates a bit at the same time of the first slash before slashing downwards, once again sending windblasts coupled with green lightning bolts this time. He usually needs to charge before using this, but can use two cartridges instead. The speed of this spell is very good but also drains a lot out of his energy
Elemental type: Wind/Lightning
Attack: S+
Speed: AAA
Range: C

Blitz Aura (Lightning Aura): Electricity dances around Grandis’ armor at random intervals. This is much harder to maintain but is also much more damaging compared to his other Aura spells.

Defensive Spells:

Spoiler for Defensive Spells:

Cyclone Barrier: He gathers gusts of wind around him for defense. This can be used offensively.
Attack: A
Defense: AA-
Area: Seven meters
Speed: AAA

Lightning Wall: A barrier of emerald lightning is raised. It has a double-function of also damaging opponents even better than fire wall can. But this is much harder to maintain.
Attack: AA+
Defense: AA+
Area: Five meters
Speed: AAA

Lightning Territorium: <Details later>

Full Drive Exclusive Spells:

Spoiler for Full Drive Spells:

Hell Screamer: <Details later>

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I know, I know. He's seemingly way different from the cocky and confident Grandis that we all knew from the past. But I just had to do this. I felt something missing every time I reread Grandis' old profile. And I found out that 'I wanted to do something very different'. The old Grandis was likeable, sure. But there was a degenerancy with him that bugged me. Like with Aurion, I intend to completely break apart the common character mold and even some of the tropes in order to get a result as uniquely my own as possible! And so, Ohji Grandis came to be. How often does the non-hotblooded cool guy get the main girl? Don't worry, he's just more (MUCH more) refined now. The interactions with Hayate later on will still entail the same roguish flair. And I'd have to apologize in advance if anybody is planning or my have already written anything that involves an "Ore" Grandis. This is how he is now. And I intend to make him as likeable a character as possible! Oh. And making HayateXGrandis a success is a must too. ><

Comments? He's much, MUCH less HAXX now compared to the old version. Though I'm open to some more suggestions. Thanks in advance.


EDIT: Added pic.:3

[Jimmy C]

Originally Posted by Keroko

... Uhm, we are reading the same manga, aren't we? 'Cause last I checked, angels are joined with their godesses and improve performance.

Yes. But, to put their angels to use, the goddesses manifest them outside their bodies. The angels remain connected to the host, yes, but in combat terms, there's now 2 opponents instead of 1. Even when using the angels to assist in spellcasting, they manifest them externally. That's the opposite of how Unison Devices are used. In their case, you go from 2 opponents to 1.

BTW, the "red goes 3 times faster" thing is a nod to Char Aznable of the original MS Gundam. G00 is just the latest to use a variation.

[krisslanza]

Originally Posted by Keroko

Not necisarilly. If the sword is an Armed Device there is no 'need' for a core, but it you want a guard you could always make a core in the handguard.

I thought Midchildan made Armed Devices had cores in them...
Am I just imagining things again?

[Comartemis]

Well think about all the armed devices you see in A's and StrikerS.

Levantine? No core. Closest thing might be that dull gray orb in the crossguard. Graf Eisen? Might be the ball between the two hammer heads, but no obvious core here either. Revolver Knuckle? No core. Schwertkreuz? No core. Heck, no AI as far as I can tell. Strada? Nada.

The absence of the AI core might be what makes Armed Devices so much sturdier than other devices, and hence able to utilize the cartridge system more easily.

[ghazghkull]

*Walks in, and takes a deep breath*

KEROKOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



WHAT'S THIS I HEAR ABOUT YOU BRINGING THE PRIMARCHS!!!!!!!!!!!



*Takes another deep breath*

Okay I'm done :3