Boku wa Tomodachi ga Sukunai - Light Novel Discussion

[Anonymous_Slider]

Going to check the anime after work, I'm basing by the novels as you may know.

[Super Kamehameha]

Originally Posted by Anonymous_Slider

Going to check the anime after work, I'm basing by the novels as you may know.

It's pretty evident even in the LN.
It's harder to identify bullying when you're not bullied yourself.
Yeah Yozora apologized like once maybe twice but the damage was done.

[Anonymous_Slider]

Hmmm... Seems pretty different towards me. As you may know I myself have been bullied in the past.

[Super Kamehameha]

Originally Posted by Anonymous_Slider

Hmmm... Seems pretty different towards me. As you may know I myself have been bullied in the past.

Well if what you say is true, it should be even more obvious that Yozora has bullied Sena on more than one occasion. What may make it seem like not bullying to you, is because like I said earlier, it's played down for laughs. Because of that, looking from an outside view in, it doesn't seem that bad. Yeah Sena is fragile, so things get to her easily. But that's still bullying.

Also, again, if what you say is true, you would know bullying comes in many different ways.
Not just the classic "give me your lunch money" or those kind of things.
Bullying can also be name calling. Which Yozora did ALOT.

Yozora (on more than one occasion) wrote about something really fucked up happening to Sena, nd made light out if it. She knows Sena is guilble and plays off of that.

Try looking again without your Yozora tinted goggles. I'm far from a Yozora hater, and not even a Sena fanboy, but it's just absurd to say Yozora didn't bully Sena.

[Anonymous_Slider]

First of all I'm not Yozora-tinted, I'm saying that I see it very differently compared to yours, this is coming from someone who has been bullied till today(about 18 years, I'm already 23 as you may know). And oh so yes, I've been bullied in many different ways ranging from hiding my things, putting their trash on my bag, being called names, being talked to in the back, to the worst ones(for me), isolation. Oh, absurd is also one of the words that describe me.

[SuitUp]

Yeah, I think maybe sharing bullying stories because of a Haganai shipping argument ain't healthy..

[Super Kamehameha]

I'm not gonna get into what happened to me back in middle school cause honestly it's not the place for it

What I will say this isn't a shipping war. It's just the fact the Yozora bullied Sena.
There's nothing about who's gonna end up with Kodaka.

Also why do you keep saying as you may know? I literally know nothing about you, so no I don't know.

This is gonna be my last post on this topic because I don't know how else to put it that Sena was bullied. I've gave a few examples already. A few examples of what you listed is what Yozora does to Sena, so you just prove me right

Lastly that really sucks what they do to you, if you want PM me

[zerozeronine]

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yup while Sena steps on her male classmate's and make them out to be utter fools (it's in the dialogue anime/ln if i remember correctly,even though it wasn't shown in the anime),brags about her "nobility" and looks down on other's,so she's not an angel either.Rika is still the best girl though,who wouldn't love a perverted kouhai??

LOL Sena fragile??Yozora just knows how to push her buttons,and that's not bullying,bullying you can't retaliate,you can't fight back and obviously Sena does talk back to Yozora (and seriously it's for laughs the same way Touma from Index getting bitten in the head by,well Index or getting electrocuted by Mikoto; Kyosuke from Oreimo getting kicked by Ayase or hit by Kirino,you know).

[Super Kamehameha]

Originally Posted by zerozeronine

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yup while Sena steps on her male classmate's and make them out to be utter fools (it's in the dialogue anime/ln if i remember correctly,even though it wasn't shown in the anime),brags about her "nobility" and looks down on other's,so she's not an angel either.Rika is still the best girl though,who wouldn't love a perverted kouhai??

LOL Sena fragile??Yozora just knows how to push her buttons,and that's not bullying,bullying you can't retaliate,you can't fight back and obviously Sena does talk back to Yozora (and seriously it's for laughs the same way Touma from Index getting bitten in the head by,well Index or getting electrocuted by Mikoto; Kyosuke from Oreimo getting kicked by Ayase or hit by Kirino,you know).

I never said that Sena didn't do that. What she does isn't much better, but doesn't change my point.

And stop trying to hide your blind Sena hate by defending Yozora's bullying. Yes, Sena is fragile, and Yozora knows exactly what to say to get Sena upset. THATS BULLYING. And just because someone tries to talk back, it doesn't make it bullying? Lmao get outta here.

I've said this about 3 times already. I KNOW it's played down for laughs. It's still obviously bullying. Look at stuff like Family Guy, they take controversial issues and play it down for comedy. Doesn't make those issues any less controversial.

Okay that was my last post on this topic, for real. So keep any more of your blind hate to yourself, I'm sick of dealing with it lol

[zerozeronine]

Originally Posted by Super Kamehameha

I never said that Sena didn't do that. And stop trying to hide your blind Sena hate by defending Yozora's bullying.

Don't hate Sena though,and it's a slapstick lovecom series why are you taking it that seriously??I wonder if it was Kodaka getting tricked or fly swatted like that,will you still be this aggressive and taking it seriously??

[Super Kamehameha]

Originally Posted by zerozeronine

Don't hate Sena though,and it's a slapstick lovecom series why are you taking it that seriously??I wonder if it was Kodaka getting tricked or fly swatted like that,will you still be this aggressive and taking it seriously??

Yeah I would lol.
I'm taking it seriously because I don't like when people say Yozora is this perfect character (she's a really good one but far from perfect) and without any flaws.
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[Anonymous_Slider]

@suitup
First of all thank you for pointing out that sharing bullying stories are unhealthy. Secondly, this is NOT a shipping battle, got that? Sorry for sounding harsh, that's the smoothest I can get.
*cough*Back to the topic. As far as I can see it, it is not bullying, it is a fight.

[Super Kamehameha]

Originally Posted by Anonymous_Slider

@suitup
First of all thank you for pointing out that sharing bullying stories are unhealthy. Secondly, this is NOT a shipping battle, got that? Sorry for sounding harsh, that's the smoothest I can get.
*cough*Back to the topic. As far as I can see it, it is not bullying, it is a fight.

Come on man, no need to be so snappy.
But I don't know how else to put it, so let's both drop it.
PMs are still cool though like I said

[Anonymous_Slider]

I agree with you in that, better drop the topic. It would be rather unproductive if we pursued the matter. Oh sorry about the excessive usage of the words "as you may know" if it offended you. I have a tendency to overuse a word(s). It just so happens that that day you have been in the receiving end of it.

[ayumi-chan]

Originally Posted by Super Kamehameha

Yeah I would lol.
I'm taking it seriously because I don't like when people say Yozora is this perfect character (she's a really good one but far from perfect) and without any flaws.
I feel very strongly about bullying and when someone tries to undermine it I don't like it.

I am sometimes curious about how much people are tolerating Yozora's anti-social decisions but I guess that the wish that she should end up with Kodaka is so strong that they don't care about anything else anymore.

[Super Kamehameha]

Originally Posted by ayumi-chan

I am sometimes curious about how much people are tolerating Yozora's anti-social decisions but I guess that the wish that she should end up with Kodaka is so strong that they don't care about anything else anymore.

I swear they're just blind. I'm a Sena shipper and I admit flat out she has some issues to work out before she can officially be with Kodaka. Which I think will start to happen in Vol 10 according to the summary.

[Yye1]

Originally Posted by Super Kamehameha

I'm not gonna get into what happened to me back in middle school cause honestly it's not the place for it

Go see a therapist about your problems, don't just air it out on a forum about a romcom series which isn't meant to be taken seriously.

As for me, I just assume that Yozora sees Sena as competition for Kodaka, that is why she pulls all these antics, and to be honest, Sena is asking for it a lot of the time.

[Super Kamehameha]

Originally Posted by Yye1

Go see a therapist about your problems, don't just air it out on a forum about a romcom series which isn't meant to be taken seriously.

As for me, I just assume that Yozora sees Sena as competition for Kodaka, that is why she pulls all these antics, and to be honest, Sena is asking for it a lot of the time.

Exactly why I said this isn't the place for it, lol.
And yeah I agree I just feel Yozora goes too far sometimes

[allfictions]

I heard something about the author being really disappointed about Yozora hates on internet, because he expected a better reaction from the readers after volume 9 but it apparently didn’t make much difference.

[zerozeronine]

Originally Posted by ayumi-chan

I am sometimes curious about how much people are tolerating Yozora's anti-social decisions but I guess that the wish that she should end up with Kodaka is so strong that they don't care about anything else anymore.

I don't ship Yozora/Kodaka and I don't find anything wrong with her actions,it's for comedy.

Originally Posted by allfictions

I heard something about the author being really disappointed about Yozora hates on internet, because he expected a better reaction from the readers after volume 9 but it apparently didn’t make much difference.

Eh?But isn't Yozora popular in Japan,she's the 10th overall most popular LN character in the Kono polls (I'm sorry Super K,but I needed to mention this)?Or are you referring to outside Japan?