Mahouka LN - Yotsuba Inheritance Arc (Volume 16) Discussion / Poll

[TrueAlchemist]

Originally Posted by IceHism

I heard from a random source that the author said in an interview that he has no intention to write a big conflict between Maya and Tatsuya. Not sure if it's true but I wonder how this book would go if it was.

I haven't heard anything yet. This may be due to the information from the Past Arc where hints that Maya and Tatsuya will not crash in the future. (This is where Minami was introduced to Tatsuya and Miyuki, and in Tatsuya's mind he was preparing for the crash between him and Maya in the future, but the book says, it will not happen or something similar.) This subject is also came up in 2chan threads. Some speculates, Tatsuya and Maya will not crash in vol.16 because of this. But, at the same time, some speculate, Maya may get killed in this Arc or the near future.

The author created too many big bad wolves in Mahouka. At this point, Mahouka only has one year left in the story. So, if Maya vs. Tatsuya starts, the author may not have a chance to introduce Black Sage, Sponsor, or a creator of “Hliðskjálf". In addition, we will have Rozen plot; the author was already starting something from the vol.13. In vol.15, the book shows Leo with a new thought process CAD from Rozen while only informing audiences that the CAD was given by Rozen as a sign of apology.

Originally Posted by somerand

I don't think it was stated that the entire clan tried to kill him, it's possible that they all did but it's only confirmed that someone or some group within the family did.
Tatsuya is obviously a highly controversial topic within the family. I think the most likely scenario for what happened was that the branch leaders disagreed about what to do with him, a branch leader or perhaps several of them tried to kill him and someone within the family intervened to save him. (Probably Miya/Maya)

The book says, the clan tried to kill him, but we do not know whether it was decided by few individual or majority of the clan. Based on Maya's treatment on Tatsuya, at least Maya cannot be the one who supported it.

Originally Posted by Armando99

They probably both decided to save him, if in fact that story is true about some faction of the family attempting to kill him. This could also be a plot twister by the author to throw everyone off. One thing constant about this story and it's author is the fact that he likes hanging plots, lots of them.
Besides, knowing what we know from stated facts, Miya is Tatsuya's mother until the author decides to tell us directly in one of the upcoming volume. If that is true, for now, then the twin sisters had all the reasons in the world to save the young Tatsuya.

Besides looking at it like a plot twist, I would like to see it as an answer that everyone has been asking. Regardless of his talents as a magician, he is S-class magician who is proven to be the most important asset for the country while being treated like a garbage by his own bloods. And, as a leader of the clan, Maya has to resolve this before Tatsuya's position in the army or the country becomes more significant. Having Tatsuya may help Yotsuba in the future, but as we have seen from Mitsugu when he lost his arm, Yotsuba may not wish to get a help from Tatsuya even if they meet their doom because of their prejudice towards Tatsuya.

As you say, there are a lot of hanging plots;
Contradiction between Miya and Maya made fans to question about Tatsuya's background. At the same time, the author threw the bomb(the elemental sight; looking into the root of a person) into the story. It seems like, the author has given himself many choices to choose. At least, vol.16 will end one of mysteries in Mahouka.

[Jiminy]

Originally Posted by TrueAlchemist

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The author created too many big bad wolves in Mahouka. At this point, Mahouka only has one year left in the story. So, if Maya vs. Tatsuya starts, the author may not have a chance to introduce Black Sage, Sponsor, or a creator of “Hliðskjálf". In addition, we will have Rozen plot; the author was already starting something from the vol.13. In vol.15, the book shows Leo with a new thought process CAD from Rozen while only informing audiences that the CAD was given by Rozen as a sign of apology.
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Regardless of his talents as a magician, he is S-class magician who is proven to be the most important asset for the country while being treated like a garbage by his own bloods. And, as a leader of the clan, Maya has to resolve this before Tatsuya's position in the army or the country becomes more significant. Having Tatsuya may help Yotsuba in the future, but as we have seen from Mitsugu when he lost his arm, Yotsuba may not wish to get a help from Tatsuya even if they meet their doom because of their prejudice towards Tatsuya.
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The latter sounds convincing

As to the former:
In Animes and Novels there's often a principle they call 'talking with your fist'. As far as I recall Tatsuya relied on something similar in volume 12 (influenced by Mari) . That's one of the settings I can think of in which a duel MayaVSTatsuya is possible.

fight her - talk to her - learn about the past - beat her – forgive her – heal her – convince her - silence everyone else

Although I think it's a bit silly it is a more or less clean way to resolve their problems. And with Mayas support and a victory against the symbol of the Yotsubas' strength I guess the rest of the clan would run out of arguments.
Another way to move forward could be found if there was an enemy the Yotsubas and Tatsuya can only beat together (or a similar strong mutual interest) and if they managed to build trust little by little. But that would probably take a lot of time. I don't think the old guard / the faction that opposes Tatsuya suddenly disappears. Neither do their problems.

I just hope the author comes up with something convincing. There are already too many novels with lots of potential that were ruined in the end. Mahouka shall not become one of them.

[chad001]

The Irregular at Magical University?

[TrueAlchemist]

Originally Posted by Jiminy

The latter sounds convincing
As to the former:
In Animes and Novels there's often a principle they call 'talking with your fist'. As far as I recall Tatsuya relied on something similar in volume 12 (influenced by Mari) . That's one of the settings I can think of in which a duel MayaVSTatsuya is possible.
fight her - talk to her - learn about the past - beat her – forgive her – heal her – convince her - silence everyone else
Although I think it's a bit silly it is a more or less clean way to resolve their problems. And with Mayas support and a victory against the symbol of the Yotsubas' strength I guess the rest of the clan would run out of arguments.
Another way to move forward could be found if there was an enemy the Yotsubas and Tatsuya can only beat together (or a similar strong mutual interest) and if they managed to build trust little by little. But that would probably take a lot of time. I don't think the old guard / the faction that opposes Tatsuya suddenly disappears. Neither do their problems.
I just hope the author comes up with something convincing. There are already too many novels with lots of potential that were ruined in the end. Mahouka shall not become one of them.

In the Past Arc, narrator stated, Tatsuya and Maya will not crash. And, Maya already assumes, she will lose against Tatsuya. (Was it 80% chance or 70% chance?) Maya is not stupid. If the story goes into the direction where Tatsuya and Maya to fight, Maya would assemble entire Yotsuba to fight against Tatsuya. Unless Tatsuya decides to burn down Yotsuba, both Maya and Tatsuya will avoid the actual battle.

Originally Posted by chad001

The Irregular at Magical University?

This is something that many fans are speculating regardless of what the author said in the past interview. In the past interview (few years ago?!?), he stated, he will finish the series at the end of High school period in Mahouka. But, in reality Kadokawa company has been investing a lot into the series, and most LN writer failed to produce another hit series. His another work, DM, does not seem picking up enough popularity in Japan, so the author may decide extending the series. But, some fans from 2chan also speculate, the author is probably in 50s and assume, the profit from Mahouka should be more than enough, so the author may finish the series at the end of high school. By the way, the age (50s) is also speculation that is going around in the net for sometime. Based on his words and minor details in Mahouka, people think, he is in 50s.


By the way, I found interesting information for non-Japanese specialists.
Yotsuba's main house is located nearby Niigata Prefecture. Shibata is located in Niigata, so the minor house's name, Shibata, may be created because of Yotsuba's location. But, I also read a short summary on the vol.15 afterword that the author made branch family names from number 4 and plant names. I am wondering, whether Shibata can be an exemption or not compared to other branch families. If the author has a special plan with Shibata, we may witness the most unexpected thing in Mahouka.

[IceHism]

It seems kind of odd to be 50 and writing light novels. Most of the authors I know in the ln industry are in their 20s

I still don't know why they publish DM, it was basically the piece that failed pretty badly at the competition it was entered into. I would have liked him to write something new.

And I'm guessing the cover is coming out in 2 days?

[amtro]

Actually in the afterword for vol 12 I think Tsutomu Satou stated that he wasn't very picky on the title and that if necessary the story could continue into university. Of course if that were to happen a lot of foreshadowed events will come into play. Such as Tatsuya going public as Silver, his connection to the military being disclosed and eventually finding a marriage partner. Maya needs to act fast, Tatsuya is gaining allies and soon people will know who he is. When that time comes there will be no end to the amount of people who will try to use him. If the Yotsuba lose Tatsuya they will lose their single most valuable asset, both in the military and financially, because FLT will not survive without him and division 3.

[Armando99]

I am still of the opinion that the Yotsuba's will not lose Tatsuya. As long as Miyuki remains one, so will Tatsuya. Everything he does and or decides hinges on Miyuki and will never change. There has been nothing in the story so far that can change this.

[TrueAlchemist]

Originally Posted by IceHism

It seems kind of odd to be 50 and writing light novels. Most of the authors I know in the ln industry are in their 20s
I still don't know why they publish DM, it was basically the piece that failed pretty badly at the competition it was entered into. I would have liked him to write something new.
And I'm guessing the cover is coming out in 2 days?

Yes, it is. But, the speculation on his age started from Japan at the earlier stage of Mahouka. I believe, speculation started mainly because of two reasons: 1. in the past Satou stated, he read Hideyuki Kikuchi's Vampire Hunter D(Jan, 1983) when he was in the high school. And, he stop subscribing Perry Rhodan Series (Space Hero Perry Rhodan, 宇宙英雄ペリー・ローダン) at vol.100 right before preparing for the high school entrance exam. Vol.100 of Perry Rhodan Series was published as vol. 50(May,1979) in Japanese version. Based on the speculation, Satou was born between 1964 and 1965. 2. Another speculation/criticism is due to the main character, Tatsuya; Tatsuya's age is set as only 17 years old, but some people think, his words and thinking reflect middle age man. Based on his past comments and his character, people assumes he is in 50s. Even if he is not in 50s, people also think, he is between mid 30s and 50s. Personally, I think, he should open a little bit of his profile. It is not like, he is selling an illegal stuff. lol.

For the cover, I think, we may expect it in few days because it always show up around one month before the release. I feel like, the cover page may be Tatsuya with new CAD or Maya or Maya x Tatsuya. (I don't know why, but I cannot imagine Miyuki on the cover any more. lol.)

Originally Posted by amtro

Actually in the afterword for vol 12 I think Tsutomu Satou stated that he wasn't very picky on the title and that if necessary the story could continue into university. Of course if that were to happen a lot of foreshadowed events will come into play. Such as Tatsuya going public as Silver, his connection to the military being disclosed and eventually finding a marriage partner. Maya needs to act fast, Tatsuya is gaining allies and soon people will know who he is. When that time comes there will be no end to the amount of people who will try to use him. If the Yotsuba lose Tatsuya they will lose their single most valuable asset, both in the military and financially, because FLT will not survive without him and division 3.

Everything will be depending on this volume. In order for Tatsuya to go public as Silver, Maheshivara, or S-class magician while staying in Yotsuba, Miyuki has to be chosen as heir. Even though he defeated Masaki in 9SC and produced great results in the high school, he is still inferior from the eye of public. So, Maya will have to release his other identities in order to prove, he deserves to be a member of 10MC.(Probably excluding his identity as a S-class magician.)

Originally Posted by Armando99

I am still of the opinion that the Yotsuba's will not lose Tatsuya. As long as Miyuki remains one, so will Tatsuya. Everything he does and or decides hinges on Miyuki and will never change. There has been nothing in the story so far that can change this.

Just like Miyuki who is relying on Tatsuya, Tatsuya also relies on her because on his mind she is only one that he is emotionally connected with. But, if she is not his sister, it may change a lot or provide an opportunity for him to understand himself a little more. Everything seems to hinge on Maya's "lie" in this volume.

[Echizen777]

I don't see Maya facing Tatsuya, it's not something which should obligatorily happen. Both know what would be the outcome of this fight, Maya tested her Meteor Stream against him in Volume 8 for a reason and Tatsuya is to much of an important asset, the strongest Yotsuba and one of the two SC magicians of the country. Maya is protecting Miyuki who is considered as the best candidate and a member of the family, why would they fight?

[ProxyAccount]

Originally Posted by TrueAlchemist

Yes, it is. But, the speculation on his age started from Japan at the earlier stage of Mahouka. I believe, speculation started mainly because of two reasons: 1. in the past Satou stated, he read Hideyuki Kikuchi's Vampire Hunter D(Jan, 1983) when he was in the high school. And, he stop subscribing Perry Rhodan Series (Space Hero Perry Rhodan, 宇宙英雄ペリー・ローダン) at vol.100 right before preparing for the high school entrance exam. Vol.100 of Perry Rhodan Series was published as vol. 50(May,1979) in Japanese version. Based on the speculation, Satou was born between 1964 and 1965. 2. Another speculation/criticism is due to the main character, Tatsuya; Tatsuya's age is set as only 17 years old, but some people think, his words and thinking reflect middle age man. Based on his past comments and his character, people assumes he is in 50s. Even if he is not in 50s, people also think, he is between mid 30s and 50s. Personally, I think, he should open a little bit of his profile. It is not like, he is selling an illegal stuff. lol.

There might be consequences at his job if he's known to be moonlighting as a light novel author. Many companies that are still providing full-time employment and benefits are less-than-understanding about part-time work. After all, if you have extra time, why aren't you working overtime? While MKnR might be bringing in money right now, there's no guarantee that he will have another hit. So he will probably want to keep his main job unless he's certain that it's safe to be a full-time writer.

[Echizen777]

Volume 16 cover

[Clutchdog]

I was under the impression that Satou quit/retired to become an author after Mahouka became a success. Can't remember where I read it from.

Oh, and I had a feeling it would be Tatsuya and Miyuki on the cover. I wonder if he'll get to feel different emotions in this volume.

[expertsource]

what kind of cover is that? they are just like lovers this time. wow.

[Verisimilitude]

So Miyuki and Tatsuya are real siblings but Maya wants them to pretend that they aren't? (According to the synopsis)

[pampz21]

Originally Posted by Verisimilitude

So Miyuki and Tatsuya are real siblings but Maya wants them to pretend that they aren't? (According to the synopsis)

Not from my understanding;.....btw isnt the synopsis the same from the end of vol. 15? or is it just me? I think they only added that Miyuki took the "lie" seriously?!

[Verisimilitude]

Originally Posted by pampz21

Not from my understanding;.....btw isnt the synopsis the same from the end of vol. 15? or is it just me? I think they only added that Miyuki took the "lie" seriously?!

Read the pink text.

[pampz21]

Originally Posted by Verisimilitude

Read the pink text.

Thx bruh didnt read that.

no shit?! We're going full blown incest or is that bait.

[@GEMC]

please translate the synopsis

[amtro]

Mahouka Koukou no Rettousei 16
>as miyuki receive the invitation to visit the main house during new year's day she figures that the time has come to choose the next head and to be appointed her future husband
>tatsuya and miyuki are true siblings
>maya makes up a lie about their relationship for her own keikaku
>miyuki sees that as a tacit consent to see onii-sama in a romantic light
>no maya nor ayako in the cover page they had one job...

Translation courtesy of anon. Vol 16 Kimouto rising: it's actually incest after all edition. This has to be a deathflag of some sort, because if she can't be fixed then death is the only solution. You don't just break the Miyuki dam and expect everything to be peaches and cream afterwards. MIyuki is going to come onto Tatsuya pretty damn hard now.

[tshamo]

Originally Posted by amtro

Translation courtesy of anon. Vol 16 Kimouto rising: it's actually incest after all edition. This has to be a deathflag of some sort, because if she can't be fixed then death is the only solution. You don't just break the Miyuki dam and expect everything to be peaches and cream afterwards. MIyuki is going to come onto Tatsuya pretty damn hard now.

I'm thinking I will stop supporting the author; if things continue like this, because the author will pull something that completely against the norm. I don't care about the ending, this route is sickening and immoral.