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supperrfreek · 2007-06-05, 21:13

Really at the moment I think that networks think it is a niche thing and therefore in order to appeal to the largest audience and sell the most airtime to commercials they only show what they think is popular (not niche stuff sadly), therefore in that sense gundam on US networks is a lost cause yet if enough people buy the dvd's and such I believe that networks will realize that although gundam is a niche thing it is a pretty common niche.

D-KLAC · 2007-06-08, 01:34

you know the blame for all this mess on gundam in u.s. tv it's the u.s. tv networks & fcc cause of their censors gs series got SCREWED!!!

hobbes_fan · 2007-06-08, 02:18

Are you even in the US?

4Tran · 2007-06-08, 05:36

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Originally Posted by D-KLAC

you know the blame for all this mess on gundam in u.s. tv it's the u.s. tv networks & fcc cause of their censors gs series got SCREWED!!!

Well, there's no doubt that Cartoon Network could have handled Seed better, but their hands were sort of tied by Bandai's stipulations. While Cartoon Network does have a fairly restrictive BS&P, it's unfair to apportion all of the blame to them. There's a fair bit of fault to go around, and Bandai itself is responsible for a lot of them - the toy fiasco is a case in point.

supperrfreek · 2007-06-08, 21:44

The whole thing was turned into a mess, I can't blame any particular place (CN or bandai or even sunrise) but still, they could have done it differently, here's my spin, later on saturday nights would have been good but then again what do I know about the placement of programs on late night tv.

D-KLAC · 2007-06-09, 00:28

it would even be better if they have not shown that garbage that "disco guns" this is ont the 70s since gs time era is ce 71?!

cause of "disco guns", edits, & censors gs got screwed!!!

supperrfreek · 2007-06-10, 19:12

yeah, but you'd have to admit the time it was on sucked too.

Crusader · 2007-06-10, 21:07

Disco Guns were the least of Seeds problems! Take into account, Nudity, Language, and pacing amongst other things.

D-KLAC · 2007-06-10, 22:56

well gs series is for the teens viewers.

4Tran · 2007-06-10, 23:39

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Originally Posted by Crusader

Disco Guns were the least of Seeds problems! Take into account, Nudity, Language, and pacing amongst other things.

I'm not sure how your argument is supposed to work. Are you saying that it was impossible for Gundam Seed to succeed in the U.S. because of those factors? After all, it was very successful in Canada, and the two countries should be fairly similar in terms of potential audience.

D-KLAC · 2007-06-11, 05:10

well it's because u.s. tv laws has gone over protective since 9/11 also that superbowl wardrobe malfunction that u.s. tv laws has been censors-r-us.

cause of that gs series was screwed by u.s. tv by the FCC's rules.

JagdPanther · 2007-06-11, 08:37

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Originally Posted by D-KLAC

well it's because u.s. tv laws has gone over protective since 9/11 also that superbowl wardrobe malfunction that u.s. tv laws has been censors-r-us.

cause of that gs series was screwed by u.s. tv by the FCC's rules.

Yeah, but the FCC still allows channels to show commercials with people spray-painting hair on their heads! That's pretty damn damaging.

Gundam Zero Force · 2007-06-11, 15:12

If the Gundam Series were more avaliable in stores I'd go out and buy them . . . . . sadly even Gundam Seed is hard to find an entire series in one whole piece . . . oh well I guess I'll have to by it online.

I still remember the good ole' days on Toonami when G Gundam, MS 08th team and Gundam Wing were on all the time. Unfortunately that is not the case anymore and I was too busy to see Seed on tv when it aired and I missed it.

I really hope the Gundam series is not a lost cause in the U.S. I'd be super bummed out

I know a lot of Gundam fans at my college so it obviosly it can't be failing in the U.S. becasue of a lack of fan support . . .

supperrfreek · 2007-06-13, 19:01

who wouldn't be bummed out.
I'm just saying things that are happening the way I see it, and unfortunately networks are treating gundam like its got no place on them even though the fan base is of a pretty decent size.

Gundam Zero Force · 2007-06-13, 19:43

yeah it is a bummer, I don't know about you all but I like the Gundam series overall and seeing it die slowly in the US is not cool at all. Even if the Gundam series dies away I'll still be a fan of it

D-KLAC · 2007-06-13, 23:53

well because u.s. tv & FCC was checking gs cause of the things in gs got was too much that FCC want to screw gs.

besides it did well oversea but u.s. tv screw gs.

hobbes_fan · 2007-06-14, 00:11

Where did you get this data from? Show me stats.

D-KLAC · 2007-06-14, 00:55

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Originally Posted by hobbes_fan

Where did you get this data from? Show me stats.

well because oversea show gs unedited version.

hobbes_fan · 2007-06-14, 02:32

You said it did well overseas. Show me viewer ratings. Can you confirm that every overseas country it aired in got an unedited version? Show me proof.

D-KLAC · 2007-06-14, 02:37

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Originally Posted by hobbes_fan

You said it did well overseas. Show me viewer ratings. Can you confirm that every overseas country it aired in got an unedited version? Show me proof.

geez are you "high" besides gs series did much better like phils & canada.

but on u.s. tv gs got screw by u.s. tv & FCC!!!

cause i think u.s. tv are too scared of gs.

2007-06-08, 01:34	Link #62
D-KLAC KLAC OF THE ANIME WORLD Join Date: May 2007 Location: gs series Age: 34	you know the blame for all this mess on gundam in u.s. tv it's the u.s. tv networks & fcc cause of their censors gs series got SCREWED!!! __________________ ONCE A GS ALWAYS A GS A KLAC IS JUST TOO COMMIT, HONOR, LOYALTY, PRIDE, ETC TO WORLD OF ANIME WALKING THE PATH OF KLAC ON THE JOURNEY THORUGH THE KLAC-ERA YOU EITHER ANIME NEXUS http://myanimelist.net/clubs.php?cid=24159 OR AGAINST THE ANIME http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B6WFM...eature=related KLAC OF PERSONALITY http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jqyG8w0iMPw

2007-06-09, 00:28	Link #66
D-KLAC KLAC OF THE ANIME WORLD Join Date: May 2007 Location: gs series Age: 34	it would even be better if they have not shown that garbage that "disco guns" this is ont the 70s since gs time era is ce 71?! cause of "disco guns", edits, & censors gs got screwed!!! __________________ ONCE A GS ALWAYS A GS A KLAC IS JUST TOO COMMIT, HONOR, LOYALTY, PRIDE, ETC TO WORLD OF ANIME WALKING THE PATH OF KLAC ON THE JOURNEY THORUGH THE KLAC-ERA YOU EITHER ANIME NEXUS http://myanimelist.net/clubs.php?cid=24159 OR AGAINST THE ANIME http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B6WFM...eature=related KLAC OF PERSONALITY http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jqyG8w0iMPw

2007-06-10, 21:07	Link #68
Crusader Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: North Texas	Disco Guns were the least of Seeds problems! Take into account, Nudity, Language, and pacing amongst other things. __________________ The times may change, but human nature never will.

2007-06-10, 22:56	Link #69
D-KLAC KLAC OF THE ANIME WORLD Join Date: May 2007 Location: gs series Age: 34	well gs series is for the teens viewers. __________________ ONCE A GS ALWAYS A GS A KLAC IS JUST TOO COMMIT, HONOR, LOYALTY, PRIDE, ETC TO WORLD OF ANIME WALKING THE PATH OF KLAC ON THE JOURNEY THORUGH THE KLAC-ERA YOU EITHER ANIME NEXUS http://myanimelist.net/clubs.php?cid=24159 OR AGAINST THE ANIME http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B6WFM...eature=related KLAC OF PERSONALITY http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jqyG8w0iMPw

2007-06-11, 05:10	Link #71
D-KLAC KLAC OF THE ANIME WORLD Join Date: May 2007 Location: gs series Age: 34	well it's because u.s. tv laws has gone over protective since 9/11 also that superbowl wardrobe malfunction that u.s. tv laws has been censors-r-us. cause of that gs series was screwed by u.s. tv by the FCC's rules. __________________ ONCE A GS ALWAYS A GS A KLAC IS JUST TOO COMMIT, HONOR, LOYALTY, PRIDE, ETC TO WORLD OF ANIME WALKING THE PATH OF KLAC ON THE JOURNEY THORUGH THE KLAC-ERA YOU EITHER ANIME NEXUS http://myanimelist.net/clubs.php?cid=24159 OR AGAINST THE ANIME http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B6WFM...eature=related KLAC OF PERSONALITY http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jqyG8w0iMPw

2007-06-05, 21:13	Link #61
supperrfreek Professional Genius Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: you don't want to know	Really at the moment I think that networks think it is a niche thing and therefore in order to appeal to the largest audience and sell the most airtime to commercials they only show what they think is popular (not niche stuff sadly), therefore in that sense gundam on US networks is a lost cause yet if enough people buy the dvd's and such I believe that networks will realize that although gundam is a niche thing it is a pretty common niche.

2007-06-08, 02:18	Link #63
hobbes_fan You could say..... Join Date: Apr 2007	Are you even in the US?

2007-06-08, 21:44	Link #65
supperrfreek Professional Genius Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: you don't want to know	The whole thing was turned into a mess, I can't blame any particular place (CN or bandai or even sunrise) but still, they could have done it differently, here's my spin, later on saturday nights would have been good but then again what do I know about the placement of programs on late night tv.

2007-06-10, 19:12	Link #67
supperrfreek Professional Genius Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: you don't want to know	yeah, but you'd have to admit the time it was on sucked too.

2007-06-11, 15:12	Link #73
Gundam Zero Force Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Seattle, WA Age: 37	If the Gundam Series were more avaliable in stores I'd go out and buy them . . . . . sadly even Gundam Seed is hard to find an entire series in one whole piece . . . oh well I guess I'll have to by it online. I still remember the good ole' days on Toonami when G Gundam, MS 08th team and Gundam Wing were on all the time. Unfortunately that is not the case anymore and I was too busy to see Seed on tv when it aired and I missed it. I really hope the Gundam series is not a lost cause in the U.S. I'd be super bummed out I know a lot of Gundam fans at my college so it obviosly it can't be failing in the U.S. becasue of a lack of fan support . . .

2007-06-13, 19:01	Link #74
supperrfreek Professional Genius Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: you don't want to know	who wouldn't be bummed out. I'm just saying things that are happening the way I see it, and unfortunately networks are treating gundam like its got no place on them even though the fan base is of a pretty decent size.

2007-06-13, 19:43	Link #75
Gundam Zero Force Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Seattle, WA Age: 37	yeah it is a bummer, I don't know about you all but I like the Gundam series overall and seeing it die slowly in the US is not cool at all. Even if the Gundam series dies away I'll still be a fan of it

2007-06-13, 23:53	Link #76
D-KLAC KLAC OF THE ANIME WORLD Join Date: May 2007 Location: gs series Age: 34	well because u.s. tv & FCC was checking gs cause of the things in gs got was too much that FCC want to screw gs. besides it did well oversea but u.s. tv screw gs. __________________ ONCE A GS ALWAYS A GS A KLAC IS JUST TOO COMMIT, HONOR, LOYALTY, PRIDE, ETC TO WORLD OF ANIME WALKING THE PATH OF KLAC ON THE JOURNEY THORUGH THE KLAC-ERA YOU EITHER ANIME NEXUS http://myanimelist.net/clubs.php?cid=24159 OR AGAINST THE ANIME http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B6WFM...eature=related KLAC OF PERSONALITY http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jqyG8w0iMPw

2007-06-14, 00:11	Link #77
hobbes_fan You could say..... Join Date: Apr 2007	Where did you get this data from? Show me stats.

2007-06-14, 02:32	Link #79
hobbes_fan You could say..... Join Date: Apr 2007	You said it did well overseas. Show me viewer ratings. Can you confirm that every overseas country it aired in got an unedited version? Show me proof.