Shakugan no SHANA Novels

[Sakai Yuji]

Wow, it's like the Shana x Yuji x Kazumi triangle.

Kazumi loves Yuji, but Yuji loves Shana.

[Nietono no Shana]

Originally Posted by Senshigeia

Spoiler for Mathilde:

And Mathilde loved Alastor. Yes, confusing, but it actually makes me want to read more about them three. I really love Merihim...

Spoiler for Mathilde:

And Alastor loved Mathilde. Poor Alastor.

I don't understand this love triangle between Mathilde, Wilhelmina and Merihim. Did Mathilde and Merihim know that Wilhelmina was in love with Merihim? Did Wilhelmina and Merihim know, that Mathilde was in love with Alastor(and Alastor in Mathilde) and don't had interest in Merihim ?

[Senshigeia]

Originally Posted by Nietono no Shana

Spoiler for Mathilde:

And Alastor loved Mathilde. Poor Alastor.

I don't understand this love triangle between Mathilde, Wilhelmina and Merihim. Did Mathilde and Merihim know that Wilhelmina was in love with Merihim? Did Wilhelmina and Merihim know, that Mathilde was in love with Alastor(and Alastor in Mathilde) and don't had interest in Merihim ?

I don't know, but...

Spoiler for reply:

It's kind of pretty and symbolic that Merihim and Wilhelmina stayed behind to accomplish Mathilde's wishes. Shana is kind of Mathilde and Alastor's child, as well as Wilhelmenia and Merihim's and I really think Wilhelmina was happy enough to take care of lil' Shana with Merihim by her side; those must have been happy times for her - for her Shana must be like a daughter. I also think Alastor was happy to tell the bedtime story of Enpatsu Shakugan he loved so much...

[Hell_ping]

Lol Cosmic, I didn't expect you to work on chapter 2 this soon lol.

[Cosmic Eagle]

Originally Posted by Teh_Ping

Lol Cosmic, I didn't expect you to work on chapter 2 this soon lol.

That's because......I don't know either.....


Paralleling Horizon and Shana just seems to draw the most kick out of both stories I suppose....I think....

Or maybe it's just the situation at home....

[Om Nerabdator]

YES!! baka tsukki is translating vol 22 ^^ i wished they would focus on 1 ch at a time though :P must be a couple of different translators doing it

Looks like the whole volume will be out before we even get a proper summary

And god Pheles pisses me off, using kazumi as a distraction then as a shield

and i can finnaly understand how big this vol is the 1st ch is only 15% done but it was the size of a normal ch :O

[Cosmic Eagle]

Originally Posted by Om Nerabdator

YES!! baka tsukki is translating vol 22 ^^ i wished they would focus on 1 ch at a time though :P must be a couple of different translators doing it

Looks like the whole volume will be out before we even get a proper summary

And god Pheles pisses me off, using kazumi as a distraction then as a shield

and i can finnaly understand how big this vol is the 1st ch is only 15% done but it was the size of a normal ch :O

You wish....

[larethian]

Originally Posted by Om Nerabdator

YES!! baka tsukki is translating vol 22 ^^ i wished they would focus on 1 ch at a time though :P must be a couple of different translators doing it

Looks like the whole volume will be out before we even get a proper summary

And god Pheles pisses me off, using kazumi as a distraction then as a shield

and i can finnaly understand how big this vol is the 1st ch is only 15% done but it was the size of a normal ch :O

tell that to the Horizon peeps

[alvinkhorfire]

For some of us, including myself, a proper summary of Volume 22 would make the understanding of entire translation of Volume 22 a lot easier. The summary is not compulsory here, but it is nice to have.

[Icy.Tear]

Originally Posted by larethian

tell that to the Horizon peeps

How many pages is it?

[Cosmic Eagle]

402....mid-length novel.

[Hell_ping]

Actually, I didn't actually update the percentage, but it's about 30% now. Slowly working up.

Horizon? Pfft...try translating the entire series...

@To everyone else: When CE said 402, he meant v22. (And SAO's about the same length now). Horizon can go from 400-1000, I believe. And if you're discussing novel volume page numbers, Horizon should be taken out and banned for life.

[Cosmic Eagle]

And why does it feel like once you break through Takahashi's long winded descriptions, Horizon is far more difficult to translate than Shana.....not talking about terminology too...

[larethian]

Originally Posted by Cosmic Eagle

And why does it feel like once you break through Takahashi's long winded descriptions, Horizon is far more difficult to translate than Shana.....not talking about terminology too...

one reason could be because you're used to the sentence patterns in Shana, since you have after all read 22 volumes of it, but Horizon is still pretty new to you?

[Cosmic Eagle]

In your head though, you know the language in Horizon is more basic....maybe it's just the mass of political discussions that needs getting adjusted to...

[Icy.Tear]

I think Horizon volume 1 is 543.

I never thought that the Japanese in Shana was very hard, it was always more the flow and occasional ambiguity. On the other hand, I spent half an hour trying to translate Ancient Greek, so maybe that's where the difficulty lies in Horizon.

Horizon is just difficult because clauses start piling up, and it's hard to shape into English. Reading it isn't much of a problem, since you don't need to dissect the sentence.

And then, words like vainglory, (I'm just going to use that word everytime I can.)

Sorry for my off-topic.

[lightbringer]

I understand it's big (or rather, light novels are generally "light") but I'm having trouble relating it to western standards. For instance, War and Peace is around 560k words long, The Eye of the World is around 300k words long. How many pages are these (or any other western book for which we know the word count) in Japanese? Does it vary as widely based on font etc? Just trying to get an idea for how long these Shana / Horizon monster-size LN really are. Equivalent of western 50k, 100k, 300k?

[Cosmic Eagle]

Originally Posted by lightbringer

I understand it's big (or rather, light novels are generally "light") but I'm having trouble relating it to western standards. For instance, War and Peace is around 560k words long, The Eye of the World is around 300k words long. How many pages are these (or any other western book for which we know the word count) in Japanese? Does it vary as widely based on font etc? Just trying to get an idea for how long these Shana / Horizon monster-size LN really are. Equivalent of western 50k, 100k, 300k?

Go take a fully translated series on BT and gauge yourself?

[Cosmic Eagle]

That dream sequence with Johan and Pheles is always so touching.

Getting all teary eyed when translating....what the hell....

[Hell_ping]

Originally Posted by Cosmic Eagle

Go take a fully translated series on BT and gauge yourself?

Here's a rough gauge, 280 pages --> 70k words.

Originally Posted by Cosmic Eagle

That dream sequence with Johan and Pheles is always so touching.

Getting all teary eyed when translating....what the hell....

Now now, back to work with you, and the same goes for me.

As estimated, Chapter 1 should be done within this week.