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Kallen4life · 2010-11-25, 06:42

and now it seems control can be broken with some outside emotional help .. bummer for Kabuto - some of those zombies will be able to do that surely

but some like Kakuzu will be need to put down

Captain_Monotanous · 2010-11-25, 07:02

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Originally Posted by Kallen4life

and now it seems control can be broken with some outside emotional help .. bummer for Kabuto - some of those zombies will be able to do that surely

but some like Kakuzu will be need to put down

You never know...if they give him that big bag of money that he always wanted when he was alive....

Anyway, the zombies have a known weakness now, suddenly the good guys have a chance.

Ero-Senn1n · 2010-11-27, 06:58

We can't expect Kabuto to suddenly become godlike, it would be nonsense. Which means his version of Edo Tensei has also some serious weakness, probably some weakness that Orochi's didn't have. I assume that since he summoned so many of them he will have much less control over the individual summons, however as the numbers keep decreasing Kabuto's control over the remaining ones will keep increasing. I think Itachi and Nagato are definitely his last weapons that he wil try to gain absolute control over. Until now Kabuto and all his jutsu are being used as a plot device, so when the plot will not need Kabuto it might be that Kishi will kill him off in a relatively fast way, that is giving him only one chapter of spotlight before dying.

solidguy · 2010-11-28, 15:55

Anybody notice how the body that was used to summon shin dissapeared with him? 3rd vs Oro i remember seeing dosu and kin's body when the 1st and 2nd were defeated. Another kishi gaff?

herculan · 2010-11-28, 16:36

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Originally Posted by solidguy

Anybody notice how the body that was used to summon shin dissapeared with him? 3rd vs Oro i remember seeing dosu and kin's body when the 1st and 2nd were defeated. Another kishi gaff?

maybe the difference lies in the reason why there souls left earth.
The hokages where forcefully sealed and locked up whereas shin's soul left because he finally came at peace...
Or maybe it has something to do with the fact that it takes such a big tole on kabuto to summon that many that he somehow managed to use the body as some sort of energy converter. Meaning that the bodies energy was fully consumed by shin's spirit.
I refuse to believe its a mistake

solidguy · 2010-11-28, 16:40

Hmm i dobut it. But who knows, maybe thats what kabuto meant when he said he's improved on it. Maybe he doesnt need the living human sacrifices. But that would be the straw that broke the camels back for me. Edo tensei would be ultramegawtfpawnification hax if that happened. I think the bodies probably just lying around somewhere, off panel

Suomi · 2010-12-01, 20:50

I agree that the fact that control can be broken will play a major role, especially in the coming battles. Think Asuma: (the way I see it) Shikamaru comes across him but doesn't want to be forced into fighting him and tries to break control...and succeeds (maybe) or at least puts some doubt there.

But how much control does Kabuto have? or how little? If control can be broken that'll be a major problem for him, and also, the minds of their own they seem to have some of could pose a problem as well, even that little bit of free will could potentially cause them to deviate from his orders/control.

and what of the body in the coffin? what role is that going to play, and (of course) who is in it? and why did Kabuto react so at the sight of it?

Frenchie · 2010-12-05, 17:44

Looks like we do have bodies.

herculan · 2010-12-07, 02:11

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Originally Posted by Frenchie

Looks like we do have bodies.

kisih probably forgot it and then went to some japanese mangafanforum for some feedback and was like: 'oh sjit!!!!!!!!!! I forgot them sacrifices :O!!!' and then quikly added a dead body in the next chapter.. xD

Frenchie · 2010-12-07, 02:26

I'm pretty sure the chapters aren't made from scratch every week and they've actually got the drafts for the next chapter before the current chapter is released.

On that note, looking forward to this week's chapter.

solidguy · 2010-12-15, 23:31

hmmm very interesting, i wonder what the thingy behind zubuza was and if it has anything to do with the technique

Shiryuu · 2010-12-15, 23:53

Maybe Kabuto is trying to imitate Pain/Nagato and reinforcing the zombies with his chakra.

Frenchie · 2010-12-16, 01:47

To me, it looked like the same chakra-demon thing that was behind Zabuza when he attacked Gato all the way back in the Land of Waves arc. Power up, obviously? Not sure if it means much else.

Shiryuu · 2010-12-16, 08:40

What if... Edo Tensei is limited to Oro's chakra/bloodline? The data for the jutsu probably isn't all that hard to find. So it's weird that only Oro knew how to use it, and Kabuto only learned how to use it after he absorbed Oro into him. Anko being one of Oro's chosen vessel is also strengthening the jutsu somehow.

Also means, Oro could be the 2nd hokage's grandson.

Slayerx · 2010-12-16, 11:30

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Originally Posted by Shiryuu

The data for the jutsu probably isn't all that hard to find. So it's weird that only Oro knew how to use it,

What makes you say that?
Edo tensei is a forbidden justu of that was created in kohona; If anything that would mean that the data on how to perform the jutsu would be very difficult to come by since it would be a closely guarded secret. Kohona would keep any scrolls relating to the jutsu in a secure area to make sure that none of kohona's shinobi find and use the technique... it's likely that Oro had to go out of his way to steal the info

Takashipl · 2010-12-16, 14:02

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Originally Posted by Slayerx

What makes you say that?
Edo tensei is a forbidden justu of that was created in kohona; If anything that would mean that the data on how to perform the jutsu would be very difficult to come by since it would be a closely guarded secret. Kohona would keep any scrolls relating to the jutsu in a secure area to make sure that none of kohona's shinobi find and use the technique... it's likely that Oro had to go out of his way to steal the info

Closely guarded... like, say, Scroll of Forbidden Jutsus that Naruto stole when he wasn't even a genin? Actually, it's very probable that this scroll contained that jutsu, maybe orochi sneaked in and read all he needed?

Also: Konoha

Yeah, I'm ort-nazi but seriously, what's with people writing kohona, jairaya etc? I understand doing mistake once, but you used it 3 times in your post

Slayerx · 2010-12-16, 14:52

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Originally Posted by Takashipl

Also: Konoha

Yeah, I'm ort-nazi but seriously, what's with people writing kohona, jairaya etc? I understand doing mistake once, but you used it 3 times in your post

because
1) people do not care enough to correct me or notice in the first place
2) I myself, do not care enough to correct myself when everyone seems to understand what I'm talking about anyway

2010-11-25, 06:42	Link #21
Kallen4life Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008	and now it seems control can be broken with some outside emotional help .. bummer for Kabuto - some of those zombies will be able to do that surely but some like Kakuzu will be need to put down __________________ When we hunt, we kill No one is safe Nothing is sacred We are Blackwatch We are the last line of defense We will burn our own to hold the red line, it is the last line to ever hold

2010-12-01, 20:50	Link #27
Suomi Kaiba Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: David Tennant's bedroom in the TARDIS	I agree that the fact that control can be broken will play a major role, especially in the coming battles. Think Asuma: (the way I see it) Shikamaru comes across him but doesn't want to be forced into fighting him and tries to break control...and succeeds (maybe) or at least puts some doubt there. But how much control does Kabuto have? or how little? If control can be broken that'll be a major problem for him, and also, the minds of their own they seem to have some of could pose a problem as well, even that little bit of free will could potentially cause them to deviate from his orders/control. and what of the body in the coffin? what role is that going to play, and (of course) who is in it? and why did Kabuto react so at the sight of it? __________________

2010-12-16, 01:47	Link #33
Frenchie Shougi Génération Graphic Designer Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Sydney, Australia Age: 37	To me, it looked like the same chakra-demon thing that was behind Zabuza when he attacked Gato all the way back in the Land of Waves arc. Power up, obviously? Not sure if it means much else. __________________ Wikileaks - Animesuki, what you would do, might do, or did to make your voice heard.

2010-11-27, 06:58	Link #23
Ero-Senn1n Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Hidden Village of Sake	We can't expect Kabuto to suddenly become godlike, it would be nonsense. Which means his version of Edo Tensei has also some serious weakness, probably some weakness that Orochi's didn't have. I assume that since he summoned so many of them he will have much less control over the individual summons, however as the numbers keep decreasing Kabuto's control over the remaining ones will keep increasing. I think Itachi and Nagato are definitely his last weapons that he wil try to gain absolute control over. Until now Kabuto and all his jutsu are being used as a plot device, so when the plot will not need Kabuto it might be that Kishi will kill him off in a relatively fast way, that is giving him only one chapter of spotlight before dying.

2010-11-28, 15:55	Link #24
solidguy I'm not a tumor Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: In the dreams of beautiful women Age: 31	Anybody notice how the body that was used to summon shin dissapeared with him? 3rd vs Oro i remember seeing dosu and kin's body when the 1st and 2nd were defeated. Another kishi gaff?

2010-11-28, 16:40	Link #26
solidguy I'm not a tumor Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: In the dreams of beautiful women Age: 31	Hmm i dobut it. But who knows, maybe thats what kabuto meant when he said he's improved on it. Maybe he doesnt need the living human sacrifices. But that would be the straw that broke the camels back for me. Edo tensei would be ultramegawtfpawnification hax if that happened. I think the bodies probably just lying around somewhere, off panel

2010-12-05, 17:44	Link #28
Frenchie Shougi Génération Graphic Designer Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Sydney, Australia Age: 37	Looks like we do have bodies.

2010-12-07, 02:26	Link #30
Frenchie Shougi Génération Graphic Designer Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Sydney, Australia Age: 37	I'm pretty sure the chapters aren't made from scratch every week and they've actually got the drafts for the next chapter before the current chapter is released. On that note, looking forward to this week's chapter.

2010-12-15, 23:31	Link #31
solidguy I'm not a tumor Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: In the dreams of beautiful women Age: 31	hmmm very interesting, i wonder what the thingy behind zubuza was and if it has anything to do with the technique

2010-12-15, 23:53	Link #32
Shiryuu Magical Boy Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Hiding... don't try to find me. Age: 20	Maybe Kabuto is trying to imitate Pain/Nagato and reinforcing the zombies with his chakra.

2010-12-16, 08:40	Link #34
Shiryuu Magical Boy Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Hiding... don't try to find me. Age: 20	What if... Edo Tensei is limited to Oro's chakra/bloodline? The data for the jutsu probably isn't all that hard to find. So it's weird that only Oro knew how to use it, and Kabuto only learned how to use it after he absorbed Oro into him. Anko being one of Oro's chosen vessel is also strengthening the jutsu somehow. Also means, Oro could be the 2nd hokage's grandson.