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Madara | 104 | 32.91% | |
Madara’s Son | 14 | 4.43% | |
Madara’s Clone | 30 | 9.49% | |
Madara’s Ghost/Soul/Poltergeist given shape... | 33 | 10.44% | |
Obito | 59 | 18.67% | |
Obito’s Body, but not really Obito... | 55 | 17.41% | |
Someone else’s body (not Obito’s)... | 21 | 6.65% | |
Zetsu’s Love Child... | 23 | 7.28% | |
Tobirama/Sarutobi/or anyone with a 'tobi' in their name... | 16 | 5.06% | |
Bruce Wayne or other… | 69 | 21.84% | |
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2010-04-14, 10:42 | Link #1 |
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[Manga] Who is Tobi?
Recent chapters have definitely called into question the whole Madara = Tobi idea (that Tobi himself has gone to great lengths to perpetuate), so it only seems fitting that a new thread be made to discuss these developments.
This thread, unlike other Madara and Tobi threads, is set-up purposely to discuss the various theories as to who’s behind the mask. So discussions concerning the abilities that Madara once had, or that Tobi currently has, do not matter for this thread – focus only on the theories and evidence concerning Tobi’s identity and leave the “vs.” discussions in other forums. This is a manga thread, so spoiler tags are not needed. Besides that, the general rules and courtesies apply. And, since this thread is dedicated to Tobi’s identity, please keep the conversation focused on this topic (and possible red herring). I’m not going to lay out any evidence in the OP, but I do think it should be mentioned that the recent Data Book has separate entries for Madara as well as Tobi, and that can be as significant or insignificant as you desire… For fun, I also added a poll. It's not really indicitive of anything, but polls are always fun . edit: Due to a request from a Shippuden only fan, I have decided to open this thread from Manga discussion to General purpose. This means the manga information can be discussed, but all manga-only information must be placed under spoiler tags. I have updated the OP and title of the thread to reflect this fact. Last edited by james0246; 2011-10-14 at 08:23. |
2010-04-14, 11:00 | Link #2 |
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Well i would have to say that Tobi is in fact indead Madara. First he knows a lot about the uchiha past and secrets behind the sharinagan. Also many people refer to him as Madara, so the logic confirmes my theory.
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2010-04-14, 11:02 | Link #3 | |
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Lol, nice choices. You should have had an "all of the above" option though.
As for evidence, oh I and a dozen other conspiracy lovers have made the case for Obito. I'm not so convinced as I once was anymore, so I'll just sit back and if anyone gets on who thinks they are coming up with Tobito then I will push them in the right direction for the fun of it. Quote:
All this to say him telling a story that no one can verify is no evidence for who he is. As for people calling him Madara, well the list of living Uchiha is supposed to be quite small. A powerful sharringan user comes along and tells people he's Madara, and they don't have an alternative culprit. Despite that we still have people like Kakashi saying "he claims to be Madara" or Kabuto "so I hear you are going by Madara these days". Last edited by Emilis; 2010-04-14 at 11:14. |
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2010-04-14, 11:07 | Link #5 |
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Yay, finally a new thread again. :O
Well, the savest thing to asume is, that Tobi is Madara, because there is much hinting towards it, and only a few things hinting otherwise. I am not voting yet though, as I am too unsure a the moment. But, hey, I didn't know there was a fourth databook out, thanks for mentioning it.
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2010-04-14, 11:20 | Link #8 |
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Yeah that being introduced is what caused me to loose a little faith in Tobito. It suddenly gave a decent reason for Madara to be missing an eye. Of course it could always be Kishi trying to misdirect us. Either way there are options now.
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2010-04-14, 11:38 | Link #9 |
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I won't be a wiseass and vote for everyone, but I will take the liberty to ask, WHY a multiple choice poll! This being a manga thread, I assume spoilers are not necessary, so...since Kishi didn't take Danzou to great lengths (like being Madara), I highly doubt that he will go out of his way to somehow revive Obito. Not that it wouldn't make a good story, anyone under the mask being not Madara would be good, but I think it would deviate too much from the original purpose of the specific character, whose main element is mystery. It will either be revealed at a point that will serve as his last, or just stay forever hidden in a very Kakashi-like manner.
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2010-04-14, 14:32 | Link #10 |
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It can't be Obito because 1- One of Obito's eyes was literally crushed under a boulder 2- Kakashi has his other eye. 3- Obito is an insignificant character as a whole that was merely used to explained how Kakashi got his sharingan.
Anyway, Madara is Madara, I don't see a reason to doubt this. Itachi believes it, and the old as dirt (Tsuchi?)Kage recognizes him during that meeting, iirc there were others that recognized him right away from his chakra. It was even explained how Madara have stayed young and alive all these years as well. There's no doubt in my mind that Madara is who he says he is.
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2010-04-14, 15:13 | Link #14 | |
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Additionally, only the Kyuubi has claimed to "know" Madara's chakra (but he never labeled Tobi as Madara). No one else has said they knew Tobi as Madara by his chakra. It was never explained, Itachi (or was it Madara) simply said "chakra did it", and never mentioned it again. |
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2010-04-14, 23:19 | Link #19 |
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It would be quite a cool twist is if the Jyuubi, can communicate with those with EMS, at the point of death the Jyuubi took over Madara and has been using his body to do his will and restore him. Like Sanary was used by Parista from Summon Night Swordcraft Story (hoping there will be a few who get the reference ).
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