2011-12-29, 03:53 | Link #841 | |
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FMP won't come. Why? because they didn't sell. Haruhi will come if she want to (Speaking about timing). Key, should win over KyoAni in 2013 if they want "Rewrite" to be animated by KyoAni (I don't care about LB anymore). And "K-ON!" is officially "over" (Probably, because one of the staff said something about "maybe the movie is the last project of K-ON! anime"). Also, Kyoto Animation =/= Sunrise/Toei Animation.
See? The wind has changed, its time for this studio to do something different. And about that adolescent romance LN, probably they would do an OVA. Well, you know to fills the leisure time in a productive way. If the OVA doing well, they might go for a TV series. Quote:
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2011-12-29, 13:29 | Link #842 | |
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So two KyoAni shows? So... I'm guessing slated for summer... |
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2011-12-30, 02:00 | Link #843 | |
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I've already stop expecting Kyoani to ever animate FMP. Though I still have some tiny hope that due to some unlikely miracle another studio ended up with the rights so at least someone would continue it. It's not like it's the first time FMP switched studios.
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2011-12-30, 02:46 | Link #845 | |
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And no, this won't be the first time Kyoani plays it lazy/easy *cough* Endless Eight *cough*
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2011-12-30, 03:09 | Link #846 | |
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2011-12-30, 03:22 | Link #847 |
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Is it? Nichijou was based on a relatively obscure 4-koma. It's not filled with dialogues specifically made for otakus to relate as was lucky Star, nor was it an adaptation of Key like Clannad and the others, which has a secure fanbase.
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2011-12-30, 09:31 | Link #848 | |
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Nichijyou was far from safe. It wasn't popular to begin with. It had hard to moe-fy character designs. It had a niche type of humor. Nichijyou was a comedy. Safe for KyoAni is moe.
btw, Nichijyou wasn't a 4koma. Quote:
Also. E8 wasn't lazy. There was obviously a lot effort put into them. Its either stupidity or trolling, not laziness imho. |
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2011-12-30, 12:20 | Link #849 | |
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Next KyoAni adaptation: from the very old material (like a ten years old novel and I didn't find it anywhere) and a very young one.
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And c'mon. Its Kyoto Animation we're talking about. Not some random studios like A-1 or AIC. |
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2011-12-30, 13:15 | Link #850 |
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I'm under the impression that KyoAni is production the Romance-Comedy one themselves (it won a award). The first one...the young readers Mystery novel based series, is produced by Kadokawa.
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2011-12-30, 13:25 | Link #851 | |
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Man sorry but they usually play it pretty safe and easy by my standards. Almost all of their shows have come from already pretty popular source material and while it can be argued that the popularity of the anime they made from them eventually gave back to that source material over time in the form of further increased recognition for the franchises in question I don't think you can deny that bringing in fanbases like Key's or the various hit light novels from Kadokawa that they've been given to adapt have really helped them get a head start when it comes to the popularity of their shows. As far as I can see the only real risk in this business model is in making sure the adaptation of the source is faithful and other than that it's a matter of sitting back and watching the profits role in. Pretty safe, simple and easy to manage business model if you ask me. |
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2011-12-30, 14:17 | Link #852 | |
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Personally, I think it's more accurate to say that KyoAni has safe properties than safe genres. Until they get people excited about their work again, playing with genres they're known for can only do so much.
And I don't just mean "well, KyoAni is a pretty good studio" kind of excited. I mean the kind of excitement that accompanied their productions from 2006-2009. Don't know about you people, but I noticed a immense difference in the anticipation I saw for Lucky Star in 2007 and K-On! in 2009 versus Nichijou in 2011. The "new KyoAni work" reverence just isn't there anymore. K-On! and Haruhi are still revered, the studio that made them not so much. And yes, I can't help but notice that Endless Eight falls between the launch of the last great KyoAni franchise and a flop. I'm thinking that killed an awful lot of the momentum behind the studio - and Kadokawa's insistence on doing 13 volumes for 26 episodes as opposed to the industry standard 9 probably did the rest. I see little chance for these new properties to achieve the sort of success the Key trilogy, Haruhi, K-On!, or Lucky Star did. Now that said, I'm not going to rule out the idea that they're playing it safe, because the announcements really make it feel like they're doing marketing for Kadokawa. Or perhaps not so safe given Kadokawa's track record in anime the last year. But that's because of the business arrangements, not the genre. Quote:
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2011-12-30, 19:29 | Link #854 | |
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Almost all? 5 out of 11 is indeed pretty "almost all". Besides, Just how far the head start (Getting fans attention early on) thingy helps popularity of their next shows I wonder? Studios like DEEN, Madhouse, JC Staff, Production I.G already done it way before KyoAni - Key colab. And you know the result is. |
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2011-12-30, 19:45 | Link #855 | |
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Another risk is their huge overhead. The studio has a staff of their own animators on the payroll. They don't simply hire people for a project. The studio has invested in a training school and are early adapters of digital animation. Quality animation comes at a price. Their capital is in their animation staff, Kyoani can't simply sack the majority of their animators after a project. |
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2011-12-30, 21:57 | Link #856 | |
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I kid, I kid.... at least for 2 of these examples. Pro Tip: Don't watch Kanon 1982 2002. It makes Angel Beats look well paced. And honestly Key's original character designs are not very good too. If anything I credit Kyoani the most with making the Key girls much more attractive in the anime. (But especially Kotomi, Tomoyo, and Mai... I'm clearly not biased)
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2011-12-30, 23:28 | Link #857 |
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This is one of those cases where a picture really is worth a thousand words:
Spoiler for Kanon 2002 v Kanon 2006:
Spoiler for Air Movie (Toei) v Air TV (KyoAni):
And just for fun, some other visual novel adaptations from the same time period: Spoiler for Various 2003-2006 VN adaptations:
A few look good (like Utawarerumono), but for the most part, I have to say I'm pretty sure that Air did not sell on Key's name alone.
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2011-12-31, 00:20 | Link #858 | |
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I can certainly see why some people see Kyoani as something of a savior when it comes to the VA scene, but I guess it's a good thing that other studios are starting to pick up the slack in this area as well, but (again) oh boy I guess we'll always have Deen won't we? |
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2011-12-31, 01:08 | Link #859 | |
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EF's visuals might be an acquired taste, but it sure as heck looked great: Spoiler for EF: A Tale of Memories/EF: A Tale of Melodies screencaps:
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2011-12-31, 02:02 | Link #860 | ||
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Sweet dreams. Or Deen.... dear god. White Fox is the future... In any case, Outfoxzero has good points-- I think Ef series will improve your impression of Shaft and VN adaptations. For one thing, it's not nearly as seizure inducing. Witness the goodness of c cubed's and baka test's director, and then weep when you realize c cubed exists. Quote:
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