(L) Eureka Seven: Astral Ocean

[Marower]

Originally Posted by Tyr Valein

I'm pretty sure it was from the very end. I only watched the movie once so I don't really have a good memory of it.

Yep, from the very end of the movie. We never know what it really is. Could just be a magic transformation of Gekko-Go for whatever the reason.

[KleenexGhost]

I like E7:AO but I can also understand a lot of the problems people have with it. Hopefully it all makes sense when it's all said and done.

[cero_86]

with Renton's appearance and his VA choice, it feels like the end of rahxephon all over again...

[KleenexGhost]

Originally Posted by cero_86

with Renton's appearance and his VA choice, it feels like the end of rahxephon all over again...

Well he is voiced by Zen Fudo. lol

[DangerMouse]

Originally Posted by ReddyRedWolf

The Scub in AO came from another universe as seen with Eureka and the Gekko. Renton as seen is traveling universe to universe looking for his family and solution to the crisis affecting the multiverse. He was on the Pocketful of Rainbows universe 10,000 years later. Saying another world died as the Scub broke past the quarantine.

The reason why the Scub are infecting people resulting to Coralian carriers is Naru's fault. The Scub Coral showed their history to Naru but she only saw what she wanted to see much like Elena. Naru was Patient Zero because she was there when the Scub tried to co-opt a Secret. The Scub didn't mean to infect Naru. Naru wanted everybody to be the same for Ao not to be discriminated against. Yes she pulled an X-Men movie Magneto. But she did not fathom the mistake of what she has done until it was too late. Now Truth can harm those Coralian carriers by increasing the Trapar.

That's nicely put

Originally Posted by KleenexGhost

I like E7:AO but I can also understand a lot of the problems people have with it. Hopefully it all makes sense when it's all said and done.

Same here.

[Raincollie]

Originally Posted by morbosfist

Where is that dove ship from? I don't remember seeing it in the movie.

Renton and Eureka watched it approaching them in through sky at that last scene where Eureka has lost her memory / speech ability.
Again, so far I've only heard of people saying that it's probably just symbolization of "the flood is over", just like in Noah's Ark. That orange bar on its 'beak' is supposed to be the olive branch. However, it seems like there's more into it now.

On a different note, are there any ideas around on whether the Nirvash we see with Renton is the actual real Nirvash from Kokyoshihen (or perhaps the Spec V from Poketto ga Niji de Ippai) or just another one of Renton's newer creations?

[Kmos]

Aww crud, the Eureka movie is relevant to try to understand AO? I skipped the movie cause I remember people saying to skip it, thought it was a rehash of the series like a bunch of anime movies. I've got to find the time to re-watch the old series, movie, then AO to sort it out?
The enjoyment of AO is diminishing fast not only cause of puzzling out how the original series (and I guess movie?) is tied to AO. I also dislike some things like others, Truth is a huge one, and more but I don't want to start on anything.

[zeroron]

Kokyoshihen and pocket ful of rainbows are the same thing bro

[morbosfist]

Originally Posted by Kmos

Aww crud, the Eureka movie is relevant to try to understand AO? I skipped the movie cause I remember people saying to skip it, thought it was a rehash of the series like a bunch of anime movies. I've got to find the time to re-watch the old series, movie, then AO to sort it out?
The enjoyment of AO is diminishing fast not only cause of puzzling out how the original series (and I guess movie?) is tied to AO. I also dislike some things like others, Truth is a huge one, and more but I don't want to start on anything.

You don't need to have seen the movie. These are just visual references. They have no bearing on the plot.

Originally Posted by Raincollie

On a different note, are there any ideas around on whether the Nirvash we see with Renton is the actual real Nirvash from Kokyoshihen (or perhaps the Spec V from Poketto ga Niji de Ippai) or just another one of Renton's newer creations?

That Nirvash was organic. This one's clearly a machine.

[Silvance]

Originally Posted by KleenexGhost

Hopefully it all makes sense when it's all said and done.

With only two episodes left? I sure hope so unless Bones plans to announce a second season at the end of ep 24.

[Dark Wing]

Originally Posted by ReddyRedWolf

The Scub in AO came from another universe as seen with Eureka and the Gekko. Renton as seen is traveling universe to universe looking for his family and solution to the crisis affecting the multiverse. He was on the Pocketful of Rainbows universe 10,000 years later. Saying another world died as the Scub broke past the quarantine.

The reason why the Scub are infecting people resulting to Coralian carriers is Naru's fault. The Scub Coral showed their history to Naru but she only saw what she wanted to see much like Elena. Naru was Patient Zero because she was there when the Scub tried to co-opt a Secret. The Scub didn't mean to infect Naru. Naru wanted everybody to be the same for Ao not to be discriminated against. Yes she pulled an X-Men movie Magneto. But she did not fathom the mistake of what she has done until it was too late. Now Truth can harm those Coralian carriers by increasing the Trapar.

If they had explained this way sooner it could've saved us so much needless guess work...

[Xagzan]

Ao and Naru alone together. Wonder if something good will happen between them

"It's like you've been my older sister..."

Ao used Neesan-zoning!!!

"Ao and I will grow old together!"

It's not very effective...


Anyway, I haven't seen the movie, so I have no idea what people are referencing regarding it. And that Nirvash of Renton's can't be the one from ep 50 of the show right? I thought that one disappeared.

[ReddyRedWolf]

Originally Posted by Xagzan

Ao and Naru alone together. Wonder if something good will happen between them

"It's like you've been my older sister..."

Ao used Neesan-zoning!!!

"Ao and I will grow old together!"

It's not very effective...


Anyway, I haven't seen the movie, so I have no idea what people are referencing regarding it. And that Nirvash of Renton's can't be the one from ep 50 of the show right? I thought that one disappeared.

The ship that was a wreck is called the Megaroad an emigration ship... No not Megaroad-01, this isn't Macross.

Difference between the Eureka 7 TV series and Pocketful of Rainbows most prominently is it's setting.

It is set not at 2005 (12005 AD) but 2057 AD. The Megaroad as built as an Ark for 20,000 to escape Earth and find a new world as Humans were loosing to aliens known as Image.

That sounds very familiar is similar to the human exodus in Eureka 7 tv series.

Here is the clincher. Pocketful of Rainbows is explicitly an alternate universe as the E7 Earth and defaced Moon are seen from some rip in the fabric of space-time.

Renton is on Pocketful of Rainbows Earth less than 10,000 years later as the date is 12020 AD. Renton saying this world was also destroyed as the Scub broke the quarantine. Not only is there a wreck of the Megaroad but the Moon doesn't have the heart with Renton and Eureka's names on it.

[miketyson]

ReddyRedWolf: is there some kind of online source you can point me to with that information about that ship? Is it sourced from one of the guidebooks or something?

[Raincollie]

Originally Posted by zeroron

Kokyoshihen and pocket ful of rainbows are the same thing bro

Chigauu, chigauu!!!~

Kokyo shihen = Psalms of Planets. Pocketto ga niji de ippai = Pocketful of Rainbows.

[Graveyard Duck]

Originally Posted by Raincollie

Kokyo shihen = Psalms of Planets. Pocketto ga niji de ippai = Pocketful of Rainbows.

Quite wrong. Take a look at the official website. Kokyo Shihen precedes the movie title as well. It was only dropped starting with Ao. Quite frankly, E7TV, E7 movie, and E7Ao are shorter shorthands and are more accurate.

[Raincollie]

Originally Posted by Graveyard Duck

Quite wrong. Take a look at the official website. Kokyo Shihen precedes the movie title as well. It was only dropped starting with Ao. Quite frankly, E7TV, E7 movie, and E7Ao are shorter shorthands and are more accurate.

Direct translation of 'Kokyo Shihen' from Japanese (Romaji) to English is 'Psalms of Planets'. While it's true that the series was referred to differently, just like you said (and we are not disagreeing, just trying to point out different things), most people refer to E7 Psalms of Planets as 'Kokyo Shihen' in Japanese.

[zeroron]

Originally Posted by Raincollie

Direct translation of 'Kokyo Shihen' from Japanese (Romaji) to English is 'Psalms of Planets'. While it's true that the series was referred to differently, just like you said (and we are not disagreeing, just trying to point out different things), most people refer to E7 Psalms of Planets as 'Kokyo Shihen' in Japanese.

just admit you were wrong bro its okay

[zeroron]

ive got it(haha soundtrack refrence) anyway that nirvash at the end isnt a fake ots a the original type zero spec 3 it evolved probably due to the fact that the scubs were disappeared and need a stronger form to find out the problem also the spec2 might be another achetype retrofitted to look like the spec2...all just a gues but it could be plausible due to the fact that renton already has knowledge of the satori program and amita drive plus a great knowledge of lfo's in general to do it not to mention he does have all the connect like axel,tresuar lab scientist,the digger that hangs out with axel.

[morbosfist]

Originally Posted by zeroron

ive got it(haha soundtrack refrence) anyway that nirvash at the end isnt a fake ots a the original type zero spec 3 it evolved probably due to the fact that the scubs were disappeared and need a stronger form to find out the problem also the spec2 might be another achetype retrofitted to look like the spec2...all just a gues but it could be plausible due to the fact that renton already has knowledge of the satori program and amita drive plus a great knowledge of lfo's in general to do it not to mention he does have all the connect like axel,tresuar lab scientist,the digger that hangs out with axel.

The spec 3 at the end was organic. This spec V is not. It wouldn't make sense for an organic frame to evolve into a robot.