Hayate no Gotoku manga (raw discussion only)

[Wolfnagi]

Guys,
i leaving for now,
anyway,
we all are reading about western horoscope right,
what if this is actually eastern horoscope,
so it supposed to be related about dogs,rats and even pig,
anyway, this is true!!!! what Rah said about Virgo is true!!!!!!!!!!!!

[WildArms]

i think you guys are thinking too deeply -.-

[arand017]

who knows... it could be true..... if athena's a cancer then i want my athena birthday arc

[Koroshiya_Kame_13]

Originally Posted by arand017

who knows... it could be true..... if athena's a cancer then i want my athena birthday arc

Shouldn't Maria's birthday arc be before Athena's since Hayate said to look forward to her birthday and she's also one of the popular characters?

[GDB]

Originally Posted by Koroshiya_Kame_13

Shouldn't Maria's birthday arc be before Athena's since Hayate said to look forward to her birthday and she's also one of the popular characters?

No, because June and July come before December.

[Koroshiya_Kame_13]

Originally Posted by GDB

No, because June and July come before December.

It was never confirmed that Athena was born during that time. Her birthday may have passed already and since this arc was mainly revolved around her, I don't expect another major arc featuring her anytime soon.

[GDB]

Apparently you missed the part of the post you previously quoted where he said "if Athena is a cancer"...

[Koroshiya_Kame_13]

Originally Posted by GDB

Apparently you missed the part of the post you previously quoted where he said "if Athena is a cancer"...

It's still an if. It was never confirmed and plus, since she had a big role in this arc, her birthday arc will probably not appear anytime soon. The author can always make Athena's birthday next year.

Oh yeah, seems Nagi is aware of what Mikado is up to since she said "I've ruined the old man's plan". No SUNDAY next week. Apparently there's a combined issue on 22nd of December.

[Rah]

No chapter this week, eh? Tsk.. I hate holidays..

Anyway, Maria was FOUND in December. Who says that she was born then? She could have been abandoned after she was x months old to the very least.

Ah, I can already feel this thread dying from the no chapter week. Everything will become quiet like a tomb~ What fun!

[Koroshiya_Kame_13]

Originally Posted by Rah

Anyway, Maria was FOUND in December. Who says that she was born then? She could have been abandoned after she was x months old to the very least.

True, but they celebrate it on December 24th so they'll keep it that way until her true birthday is discovered. Hayate told Maria to look forward to her birthday didn't he?

[Rah]

Oh yeah. Guess I've said that because of the whole astrology thing we have going on~

Trying to connect how much of it actually Hata used. Wataru doesn't really fit with anyone at the moment. He's most compatible with Ayumu, Miki, Fumi and Chiharu. Lol...

Since Hayate will most likely end with either Athena or Nagi, does this mean that Ayumu has a chance of ending with Wataru?

Oh God, never mind... Hina is compatible with Koutarou. No wonder she likes hitting him with the kendo stick.

This astrology thing is too unreliable. Some characters might have been molded by a specific sign, but when it comes to compatibility it doesn't look like it really matters, unless of course they do end up together like that. But since there are less male characters than female ones, it doesn't look like everyone will end up together. Guess it's gonna be a pretty open ending, or a time skip..

[New/Old]

I'd take take the astrology stuff with a grain of salt. On one hand, it does describe certain characters quite remarkably well, but it does seem a bit unreliable on other characters at the same time. Just make of it what you will is all I'm saying.

[primuler]

Originally Posted by Rah

No chapter this week, eh? Tsk.. I hate holidays..

Anyway, Maria was FOUND in December. Who says that she was born then? She could have been abandoned after she was x months old to the very least.

Ah, I can already feel this thread dying from the no chapter week. Everything will become quiet like a tomb~ What fun!

Usually, on no chapter weeks, people:

1. Discuss about the series in more depth(And the discussion usually ends nowhere).

2. Create silly scenarios(a.k.a short fanfics) and laugh at it.

3. Fight about which girl rocks the most.


And for me, I translate HnG web comics or dig some interesting info from Hata's web diary. Till which chapter did I do last time? Hmm... It's been such a long time...

Well, we'll survive it through.

EDIT: The web comic translations I posted : http://forums.animesuki.com/showpost...postcount=1514

http://forums.animesuki.com/showpost...postcount=1514

[Rah]

4. Theorize about the importance of astrology in HnG.

Athena is definitely a Capricorn. Highly compatible with Scorpio, which is Hayate.

Hata did say something like.. "Eternal love for Athena" and "Eternal protection for Nagi"


Guess that the Athena fans had it right from the get go. It's gonna end with Hayate x Athena.

Spoiler for But I don't wannaaaaaaaa!!:

Processing conversion algorithm *bbzzzzttttttt*
Conversion to Athena in progress... 5%...12%....27%.... *tzzzzzt*

Error! Buffer overflow detected!

Detaching conversion unit to preserve core system memory... *tck* *tck*

Unsuccessful.. corrrr...ee....ee-ee..e-- corr.rr..upptttiiooonnn inn *Pzzzzzwwwwww......*

-Catastrophic Failure

Please Reinstall your Rah OS, or contact your nearest software retailer.

*detonates*

[leoblack9]

@prim I guess people around here got too bored doing that.. after you became mia for a while.

This is kinda late but, it's nice to have you around here again.

I just brought up the astrology part since I thought that would it provide viable discussion, since most of the zodiac signs fit in the characters' attitudes and personalities one way or another, some dangerously close. I guess I disappear quite as often as the other people here when I couldn't provide some decent arguments and just fool around.

I'll continue on with the Astrological points, entirely coincidental or pure foolishness, it's cool with me.

Spoiler for 1:

Passion, desire and power go hand in hand for Scorpios. Their biggest challenge and test in life is choosing between the power of love and the love of power. Coming to grips with their extraordinary emotional depths and sensitivity isn't easy for those around them. They are different from all other zodiac signs and this difference has them walking, working and loving to a different beat. Others can often live with a Scorpio partner for years, but not really know them. Much to do with a Scorpio remains ever secret. Their eyes often blaze with feelings that words never express, and beware on the days or nights they hide their feelings behind dark glasses, there is likely to be a storm of some kind brewing. When you deal with a Scorpioyou have to always deal with them on a psychic intuitive level. They often wear a mask. Too often they say "no" when they really mean "yes". They have contrary natures. Once they find true love they can be the most faithful dedicated of all partners but fall out badly with a Scorpio and you are likely to find they will never forget or forgive.

Well describes Hayate's relationship with Athena before (whether he was still a brat or not) one way or another, maan I'm enjoying these coincidences.

Reading it in the wikis, Scorpios are one of the fixed signs.

Spoiler for 2:

Fixed Signs are at the height of the four seasons. Fixed Signs are associated with stamina, perseverance and strength and said to be, by nature, inert. However, they are also associated with inflexibility. Individuals born under the four Fixed Signs of the Zodiac are thought to be determined, powerful and self-confident but also often times opinionated, stubborn, and immovable, with a tendency to get stuck in ruts. They are seen as natural leaders, supposedly pursuing their goals with dogged persistence and have a great power of concentration. However, once set on a path, they may have an extremely hard time altering it. According to astrologers, Fixed Signs tend to direct their energies inward rather than outward.

Well more reason to accept why Hayate is as stubborn as an ox. I guess this part is what made people get irritated as much because of his attitude.

Scorpio is ruled by the Pluto (no longer a legitimate planet, but a dwarfish one) and some points here.

Spoiler for 3:

Astrologically Pluto is called "the great renewer", and is considered to represent the part of a person that destroys in order to renew, through bringing buried, but intense, needs and drives to the surface and expressing them, even at the expense of the existing order. A commonly used keyword for Pluto is "transformation". It is associated with power and personal mastery and the need to co-operate and share with another, if each is not to be destroyed. Pluto governs big business and wealth, mining, surgery and detective work, and any enterprise which involves digging under the surface to bring the truth to light. Pluto is also associated with the day Tuesday along with Mars.

I think the destruction of the gem doesn't mean so bad now isn't it?

One main keyword for his sign: transformation. Wonder when would he transform from Scorpion (1st form) to Eagle (2nd form) and finally Phoenix (last and final)

You guys wonder how the hell could I connect this stuff with him, well I'll tell you that he's still in his scorpion form. Which says that his life is still quite chaotic and couldn't find some answers.

Spoiler for 4:

The eighth is the one unfortunate house in the succedent group. This connotation derives from the lack of relationship of the eighth house with the house of the Ascendant. Because there is no astrological aspect with the Ascendant, the eighth house cannot "see" the Ascendant from its position. For this reason it has a rather tenuous relationship with the health and power of the first house. Therefore, it was called "Idle," a term reflecting its relative lack of active power within the circle of the houses. It was from this that its traditional connection with Death was established, since the first house is the house of health and vitality. Indeed, modern astrologers--and also Lilly --often call the eighth the "House of Death." Not all connections with death are negative; the eighth is also the house of inheritances resulting from death. Also, according to Paulus Alexandrinus, it "show[s] those who profit from deadly motives."

I'm prepared for this, so that's why I'm getting a bad feeling about this guys future.

Spoiler for 5:

The water signs of Cancer, Scorpio and Pisces are noted for their emotion, intuition and feeling. When a water sign is on the ascendant the subject will hide their true feelings and have a strong need to protect themselves from the world around them. What you see is often not what you get with water ascendants. In other words, the signals they send out are consciously or unconsciously chosen for effect. Cancerians appear chatty and helpful and they do well in any situation that requires tact. Scorpio risers can use many different forms of camouflage with people they do not know, one of their favourites being offensiveness and an off-putting manner. Pisces risers appear soft, gentle, self-sacrificing and sometimes even helpless, but this is misleading, as they will fight strongly for what they think is right.

Seems that Hata changed his mind about this part.. made Hayate pisces-like here and Hina into a scorpio-type.

All in all, you guys could take this with a grain of salt. But I'm loving this.

[New/Old]

Now, now. It's not wrong to have this discussion. By all means, I love it as well and hope to look more into it. It's interesting to be sure.

[WildArms]

Nagi: "Words are imperfect, putting it into words will just create misunderstanding, words are the roots of misunderstanding"

After 252 chapters, finally someone realized, and i can now clearly see that hata is trying to get nagi's popular ranking up xD

[IndoViking]

Well, it took 252 chapters, but finally there seems to be someone who knows a way to clear almost all the misunderstanding...don't say it, do it.

[WildArms]

Umm but personally, i think nagi has been out of character since the trip started -.-, is weird, if hata is making the readers to know nagi has "matured" he is trying way too hard, she just like changed 1 hit kp

[IndoViking]

Probably the change in nagi is a bit sudden, i'd prefer to see a gradual change in her, or maybe i just missed it. Either way, it's still good she has matured