2012-11-09, 21:14 | Link #3022 |
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interna...election,_2012
Check this out. The Free Syrian Army was expecting a Romney win so's they can get the weapons they need.
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2012-11-09, 21:25 | Link #3023 | |
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2012-11-09, 21:37 | Link #3025 |
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http://www.forbes.com/sites/helaineo...-of-the-night/
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2012-11-09, 21:43 | Link #3027 | |
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@Dr. Casey, we would have anything to say about your champion if he didn't give so much materials and reasons to get bashed.
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2012-11-09, 21:51 | Link #3028 | |
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I mean, I am quite prepared to say that Obama did far from a good job and had he ran against a decent GOP candidate, he would have lost. Lucky for Obama, Romney was not a decent candidate. I am pretty sure even Fox News has turned on Romney now. So he really ran out of friends. That's just what happens.
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2012-11-09, 21:58 | Link #3030 |
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^Every single aspect of Romneys 7 year campaign will be analyzed and picked apart by all involved and all who wish to learn from his and his campaigns mistakes. It's not hate nor scorn, rather it is trying to create an objective answer for the very subjective reasons he failed, and part of the reason he failed was his character on and off the screen. (That is not to say that there are not those who relish Romney's pain and suffering, but they are such a small percent (and very seldom are shown on this forum) that your characterization of Romney as this extreme victim seems a little silly.)
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2012-11-09, 22:03 | Link #3031 |
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That sounds nice, and your criticism of Romney has always been fair and constructive, but... well, I think you're giving this crowd way too much credit if you can read over a thread where bashing of Romney outnumbers bashing of Obama by a ratio of 1000:1. I don't know what thread you're reading that's full of mature, levelheaded people fairly distributing blame where it's deserved and credit where it's likewise deserved rather than just a nesting ground for hateful little vultures to gleefully rip to shreds the subject of their dislike, but I'm sure not reading the same one.
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2012-11-09, 22:09 | Link #3033 | |
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Romney is probably a better individual than his party but the qualificatif '' machiavelic'' would most likely fit him. Not on the worst way than peoples see the term but simply as basing his actions not on morale.
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2012-11-09, 22:16 | Link #3034 |
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Well. In general when we talk politics, it goes beyond the figurehead they send to run for president. The leader's going to represent the party's standpoint whether or not he is a good person or not. It's how it goes.
We're talking about a party that's launched us into 2 separate wars and has begun curtailing civil and privacy rights. Ie. The Patriot Act. We're talking about a party that's started another costly and ineffective drug war that leads to us being one of the largest prison populations in the world. And for what? Millions down the drain? A government that prioritizes throwing people in prisons instead of educating them. "Oh, let's not bother educating them. They're a lost cause so throw them in jail where they should be in the first place" Doesn't that entail massive spending? What happened to getting government out of our lives? Spend less, less complexity. An overly complex bureaucracy IS oppressive in itself because the red tape detaches people from the government, and depriving those who would want to take action. So yes, I say "fuck you" to those liberals who want to outlaw large containers of soda too. Get the fuck out my life. I don't care about your misbegotten notions of equality or making the world a better place. I will recycle, because I feel like it. Not because you waste our time on money creating more laws to make people's lives worse. And what if a child picks up a violent video game? Let's leave it up to the parents to raise their own fucking children? Does anyone provide this? Which one of the big guns is conservative? I don't see any. Well maybe Ron Paul, but he has his own set of problems. So the main thing comes to this: What do the Republicans and Romney provide to the country? Besides the fact they're not Obama? In the end, not all Republicans are bad. Just the ones that they're putting in the front. Pull them away, for fuck's sake.
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2012-11-09, 22:20 | Link #3035 |
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@Dr. Casey I am late to this thread but I am far from an Obama lover, I am glad the republicans didn't win the presidency but that does not make Obama nor the democrats the "the good guys", I hope that people (I mean real people, not the tea party nor the occupy whatever guys) remind Obama and the democrats what he should do, no republican blockage can endure if the "we the people" (as it says in your constitution, not trying to imply I have double nationality) call for real change now.
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2012-11-09, 22:23 | Link #3036 | ||
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2012-11-09, 22:34 | Link #3037 | ||
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The key point here is that for the most part the debates here are civil and level-headed, with people articulating the reasons for their opinions, instead of other places where it's just mindless bashing on both sides backed up by nothing other than "lolol u suck lololol!!!11!" Sometimes I get the feeling you're just taking this too personally, relax |
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2012-11-09, 22:35 | Link #3038 |
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I used ''might'' not because of my opinion of Romney but because of the 3 main source of news than I use on internet (Associated Press, Reuters and Cyberpresse ( the last one in french but I get there often link to other site), 3 rather credible source ) I barely get any good point for Romney. A wider research than the one I do is more likely to find some but is also much likely to go on place of little credibility or high ''partisanerie'' like FOX news.
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2012-11-09, 22:39 | Link #3040 | |
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Paul Krugman is an optimistic man. A very smart, very civic-minded man, and very bitter at times for the past few years, exhausted from fighting the good fight, but fundamentally optimistic.
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Don't give me that two-sides-are-the-same BS now. No really, remember the BBC poll on the rest of the world? Those people, they're far enough from the mess that they see exactly what's going on and scratch their heads and ask what the hell is up with the Americans and oh my god don't screw it up please we don't want another Bush. Notably, many posters in this thread who object the strongest to Romney and the Republican Party belong in the rest-of-the-world demographic. Mentar, Vallen, etc. On the other hand, you keep posting deleted inflammatory one-liners, if I didn't think you were genuinely frustrated I would have called you out as just a troll, like flying. |
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