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Randrak42 · 2012-12-19, 22:06

Jinbe's weakness isn't all that big really...and what's wrong with him being weaker on land anyway? He's still strong as hell (he matched up with Luffy, though neither was series, in their little quarrel and didn't need surrounding water).

I agree with James that if a logia joins it should be a silly element...I'm not too sure what though (but a puzzle-man actually sounds fun xD)

game2007 · 2012-12-19, 23:34

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I really don't think that is Kaido. Really doesn't match the shadow outline given by Garp long time ago, well since its the time skip that could happen. Or maybe its because Shanks who wields a Sword fought against him, that could be a scar.

Silhouettes in OP aren't always accurated. Big Mom doesn't exactly resemble her silhouette either.

Mateus · 2012-12-19, 23:37

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Wait...why would the next one logically be the Wind logia? I don't doubt it'll show up eventually (biggest theory is that it belongs to Dragon or something) but why will it be the next?

There's so many fun possibilities for Logia (though Paramecia have the most interesting abilities at times), so far the oddest one we've had (canon) was the Swamp Swamp...cause till then it's been pretty generic.

Swamp Swamp is considered earth right? I was going to say maybe Chi Chi/Iwa Iwa be able to make yourself into rock but that would most likely fall under paramecia category. I guess Wind wouldn't be the most logical, I would like to see someone use it in unique ways like how Kizaru uses light and Clown uses Gas. If Dragon does indeed possess the wind wind fruit then we probably won't get to him go all-out with it unless it's against the marines in another war or something. Personally I'd rather it be a villain like Valvalis/Barbariccia who uses wind in interesting ways...anyway back to the topic....

I think CC could accidentally save the island by messing with the heart, assuming that it IS Monet's heart.

ronin myael · 2012-12-20, 05:17

why do people think pink is a sissy color in op-verse? i personally don't like the color but this is oda's world and in his world people like doflamingo who wear feathery pink outfits are badass! i mean seriously, does it make him less of a badass villain because he wears pink? i don't think so! and to answer the question that blackbeard d. kuma posed earlier, i think he's quite powerful. probably not on the yonkou level but he's up there among the top-tier guys in op-verse. he's probably one of the most manipulative and sneakiest villains so far.

Dengar · 2012-12-20, 06:00

Uhhh, wait, the next element is wind? Did we forget that CC is gas?

Mateus · 2012-12-20, 18:19

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Yep, the next element should be liquid. Maybe all the liquids possible without water. You can still be oil or some sort of liquid poison or I dunno...maybe quicksilver, since it's really toxic.

We already had poison (Magellan) and he was a Paramecia

Animizzle · 2012-12-21, 03:51

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In all honesty, Doflamingo has mostly been riding the hype train. None of his feats suggest he's a top tier fighter. And with the way the story is progressing and the more we learn about him, I feel he isn't going to be as strong as some may think.

This. While there is no doubt in my mind that DoFlamingo is strong, I feel his reputation in the New World has equally or more to do with his doings in the underworld, god knows how many secret projects/fruits/weapons and his political influence. He has a sharp mind, that much is clear.

Add to that his power is in the field of mind control (presumably), and I second BDK that he's not a top tier fighter.

articuzwolf · 2012-12-21, 05:38

I think Luffy's resistance against poison had been exploited enough in the last two arcs

no need for more character (enemy or even nakama) with poison attribute for at least for 2-3 arcs forward

cos it's getting dull fast

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Maybe that theory would work if Dofla weren't already an adult around the time Luffy's flashback took place?

More specifically, he would have been 29 years old at that time. So nope, don't think so.

yeah I forgot to consider dofla's age around that timeline

Blackbeard D. Kuma · 2012-12-21, 17:15

Unless Doflamingo gets taken down in a team effort, it makes no sense for him to be a top tier fighter. With the way the story is progressing, it looks like he's going to be the next big bad. And while the strawhats have improved dramatically over the skip, I don't quite think the monster trio have reached top tier status yet (I'd place them in the high-high tier bracket).

That being said, I'd categorize Doflamingo in the range of high-high tier to low-top tier.

marvelB · 2012-12-21, 17:16

Kinda late on this, but as far as my impressions on Dofla's personal strength goes: Yes, I suppose I'd agree that he wouldn't be as powerful as the emperors/admirals, but I do still see him being a major force to be reckoned with, nonetheless. I mean, putting aside his sphere of influence in the underworld, let's not forget that he's the dude who was literally introduced playing around with vice-admirals like puppets. I highly doubt that a pushover would be capable of messing around with top-tier marines in that fashion. Therefore, I'm definitely expecting him to be the first real challenge Luffy will face against in the New World....

ReaperxKingx · 2012-12-21, 17:21

There haven't been a great enemy for the Straw Hats to fight. Even with Monet and Vergo were not good enough in my opinion. Doflamingo sounds like a legitimate opponent to show off the Straw Hats full power for once. I am expecting the Straw Hats' bounty to go up for every member after this arc.

paradox13 · 2012-12-21, 22:24

what if Dragon is Jack? I mean Chapter 432 the name of that chapter was "Jack in the Box" and it was when Dragon was revealed to be Luffys father. I guess you never know with Oda.

Poetic Justice · 2012-12-22, 04:32

His name is already revealed to be monkey d dragon, don't see how that could happen. The jack being referred to is obviously...

Spoiler for p:

marvelB · 2012-12-22, 14:52

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what if Dragon is Jack? I mean Chapter 432 the name of that chapter was "Jack in the Box" and it was when Dragon was revealed to be Luffys father. I guess you never know with Oda.

That's.... kind of a very left-field theory. Anyways, I'm guessing you mean that "Jack" would be Dragon's underworld alias (like Joker for Dofla)? Even so, I very highly doubt that. Plus, the chapter title you brought up wasn't even literally called "Jack-in-the-Box" in Japanese, anyway (it was more like "Surprise Box"). So yeah, I'm thinking that this "Jack" is a new guy altogether.....

Anyways, on to a different subject: This year's Jump Fiesta revealed Caesar's voice actor for the anime adaption of Punk Hazard: Ryusei Nakao, who I believe most folks here will remember as being the voice of DBZ's Freeza! Gotta say that I'm definitely looking forward to hearing him as CC!

Blackbeard D. Kuma · 2012-12-22, 14:58

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Anyways, on to a different subject: This year's Jump Fiesta revealed Caesar's voice actor for the anime adaption of Punk Hazard: Ryusei Nakao, who I believe most folks here will remember him as being the voice of DBZ's Freeza! Gotta say that I'm definitely looking forward to hearing him as CC!

Nice

. Ryusei Nakao is a perfect fit for Ceasar. Now, it's only a matter of time before Norio Wakamoto plays a character in One Piece.

Dengar · 2012-12-23, 17:41

I've been wondering when Nakao was finally going to make his appearance.

Blackbeard D. Kuma · 2012-12-24, 14:36

At the stage event at Jump Festa, Oda mentioned new developments to begin in 2013 with new species involved in the story and someone dangerous on the move (within the next 3-4 chapters). Thanks to @masashiy84 on Twitter for the information.

marvelB · 2012-12-24, 15:14

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At the stage event at Jump Festa, Oda mentioned new developments to begin in 2013 with new species involved in the story and someone dangerous on the move (within the next 3-4 chapters). Thanks to @masashiy84 on Twitter for the information.

Yeah, just read about this, myself. The "someone dangerous" could be referring to Dofla, but I wouldn't rule out the possibility of one of those NW pirates watching the broadcast being the person in question, either (like that "Jack", for instance). As for new species..... maybe it's referring to the Smiles? I mean, we already have one based on a dragon, so maybe CC managed to create a series of Smiles based off all kinds of mythical creatures.....

BTW, in addition to the news of Ryusei Nakao voicing Caesar, it's also been revealed that Kinemon will be voiced by Kenyu Horiuchi (who I'm admittedly not familiar with). The source of the info is here (though the site's in Japanese).

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I've been wondering when Nakao was finally going to make his appearance.

Actually, this isn't his first OP role.... he previously voiced Dr. Indigo in Strong World. But it's still cool to know he has a villain role in the main series proper.

Randrak42 · 2012-12-25, 15:14

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Yeah, just read about this, myself. The "someone dangerous" could be referring to Dofla, but I wouldn't rule out the possibility of one of those NW pirates watching the broadcast being the person in question, either (like that "Jack", for instance). As for new species..... maybe it's referring to the Smiles? I mean, we already have one based on a dragon, so maybe CC managed to create a series of Smiles based off all kinds of mythical creatures....

Personally hoping for Minkmen actually, we still don't know what they are exactly.

Rainbowman · 2012-12-25, 15:24

In addition I hope to see dwarves in this story if the minkmen are not quite short-sized like dwarves or if they happen to be shorter than dwarves whichever comes first.

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Blackbeard D. Kuma Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007	At the stage event at Jump Festa, Oda mentioned new developments to begin in 2013 with new species involved in the story and someone dangerous on the move (within the next 3-4 chapters). Thanks to @masashiy84 on Twitter for the information. __________________ Speed is weight. Have you ever been kicked at the speed of light?

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Randrak42 ANEGO Worshiper Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: By the vending machine, drinking tea.	Jinbe's weakness isn't all that big really...and what's wrong with him being weaker on land anyway? He's still strong as hell (he matched up with Luffy, though neither was series, in their little quarrel and didn't need surrounding water). I agree with James that if a logia joins it should be a silly element...I'm not too sure what though (but a puzzle-man actually sounds fun xD)

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Dengar Kamen Rider Muppeteer Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Unknown Age: 39	Uhhh, wait, the next element is wind? Did we forget that CC is gas?

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marvelB Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2005	Kinda late on this, but as far as my impressions on Dofla's personal strength goes: Yes, I suppose I'd agree that he wouldn't be as powerful as the emperors/admirals, but I do still see him being a major force to be reckoned with, nonetheless. I mean, putting aside his sphere of influence in the underworld, let's not forget that he's the dude who was literally introduced playing around with vice-admirals like puppets. I highly doubt that a pushover would be capable of messing around with top-tier marines in that fashion. Therefore, I'm definitely expecting him to be the first real challenge Luffy will face against in the New World....

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ReaperxKingx Emperor of the Expected Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Florida	There haven't been a great enemy for the Straw Hats to fight. Even with Monet and Vergo were not good enough in my opinion. Doflamingo sounds like a legitimate opponent to show off the Straw Hats full power for once. I am expecting the Straw Hats' bounty to go up for every member after this arc.

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Dengar Kamen Rider Muppeteer Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Unknown Age: 39	I've been wondering when Nakao was finally going to make his appearance.

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