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Drifting Wolf · 2011-06-19, 10:31

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Originally Posted by Mr.Kyon

Best way to describe it is reality bending. Breaking the laws of common sense. The AIM around him bends and twists according to the Vending Machine SS resume on the Index wiki.

Go read the before-last part of SS2. A magician called Ollerus, who is the closest person to have achieved the status Magic God - a being who can bend all natural laws and reaches into the divine - fights Gunha. He gives some interesting insights.

My personal theory is that he is the natural-born scientific equivalent of a Magic God. Ollerus states than the difference between he and Gunha is that one realize what power he wields, the other does not. Ollerus even says that Gunha could beat him if he attained a greater understanding of his abilities.

Ollerus proceeds to curbstomp poor Gunha without even trying, while he was taking Ollerus as a serious opponent and went all out.

I read up on that part but... really? Gunha - an Esper version of the Magic God?

Holy... Then, wouldn't he technically be one of the top 3 most powerful Espers?

Reality bending indeed.

One wonders why Aleister is just ignoring him...

Mr.Kyon · 2011-06-19, 10:48

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Originally Posted by Drifting Wolf

I read up on that part but... really? Gunha - an Esper version of the Magic God?

Holy... Then, wouldn't he technically be one of the top 3 most powerful Espers?

Reality bending indeed.

One wonders why Aleister is just ignoring him...

Just my theory, but considering what Ollerus said about Gunha becoming stronger than him (and the fact that he [Ollerus] is someone that can probably POUND non-angel Accelerator into the ground without too much effort), it's not THAT crazy to believe Mr. Ham can become something completely broken in terms of abilities.

Let's remember that the ranking of the Level 5 don't reflect their actual power, if we are to believe Mugino Shizuri. It represents their usefulness to Academy City and Aleister's plans. The reason Gunha is the seventh is because he might not even fit that classification. Another reason is that he's incomprehensible, so you can't really use the research on him to create something like... Five_OVER in NT1 for example.

Also, to quote the V22 afterword...

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[...]Despite the fact that we’re talking about the Hamazura Faction that’s not on the Science side or the Magic side, the topics coming up are getting close to the core of everything. The so-called "specifically made potential ESPers who can rise to Level 5"... "Dark Matter" is a special exception, so it can’t be verified, but no matter if it’s Accelerator or the "Railgun", apart from being simply biological resources from the industrial point of view, they're simply "delicious", no? The seventh Level 5 who appears in SS2 should be fairly powerful, but why is he only the seventh? Regarding this kind of question, from this point of view, the answer should be more obvious… At first glance, the fifth seems to have little value, but when used in disciplines such as sports and medicine, there'd be great benefits.

Drifting Wolf · 2011-06-19, 10:52

That's true enough. I do know the ranking doesn't reflect their strengths so that's why I was wondering about Gunha. Potential powers or not, Gunha has already proven to be quite a powerhouse.

Though, the Dorm Supervisor certainly didn't seem to be impressed.

Mr.Kyon · 2011-06-19, 11:06

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Originally Posted by Drifting Wolf

That's true enough. I do know the ranking doesn't reflect their strengths so that's why I was wondering about Gunha. Potential powers or not, Gunha has already proven to be quite a powerhouse.

Though, the Dorm Supervisor certainly didn't seem to be impressed.

She's the sixth Level 5.

^Stroke of genius.

Drifting Wolf · 2011-06-19, 11:22

Nah~

What makes the Dorm Supervisor so scary is because she's living proof that a normal person can still make Level 5's wet their pants. ^_^

Tsukino Kage Spectre · 2011-06-20, 06:07

So she's the Batman of the Toaruverse? Using good tactics, excellent combat skills and psychological warfare?

Chaos2Frozen · 2011-06-20, 06:22

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Originally Posted by Tsukino Kage Spectre

So she's the Batman of the Toaruverse? Using good tactics, excellent combat skills and psychological warfare?

Mostly psychological warfare, she hasn't really display any true combat skills in a non-comical scene.

Drifting Wolf · 2011-06-20, 06:46

Lol.

Imagine this:

Spoiler for Small Scene?:

I'm not very good at writing, so they might be a little OOC or something...

@ Chaos2Frozen : In the Side Stories, when she took on Gunha, she forced Gunha to stop fighting because she was able to keep up with his speed. Not to mention she's apparently an even greater fighter than Komaba and Wataru...

Chaos2Frozen · 2011-06-20, 07:03

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Originally Posted by Drifting Wolf

@ Chaos2Frozen : In the Side Stories, when she took on Gunha, she forced Gunha to stop fighting because she was able to keep up with his speed. Not to mention she's apparently an even greater fighter than Komaba and Wataru...

She fought Gunha in SS2? Which chapter?

Drifting Wolf · 2011-06-20, 07:08

I can't remember? It was the fanfare one. She snapped Mikoto's neck and took on Gunha. That was what I read, anyway. O.O

I'll go check.

Drifting Wolf · 2011-06-20, 07:11

Wait, my mistake. She didn't take Gunha on. Gunha was merely frightened off by her 'Aura' or something like that. But she did take out Mikoto before Mikoto could react.

This was in the summary of Toaru Jihanki no Fanfre in the To Aru wiki. My apologies for causing some confusion...

Chaos2Frozen · 2011-06-20, 07:12

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Originally Posted by Drifting Wolf

I can't remember? It was the fanfare one. She snapped Mikoto's neck and took on Gunha. That was what I read, anyway. O.O

I'll go check.

That's the "A certain Vending Machine's proof of existence", it hasn't been translated, and the summary (assuming it's fairly accurate, no offense to the guy) never said anything about her fighting Gunha in a serious match, Gunha back off immediately after seeing her defeat Mikoto in one move.

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Originally Posted by Drifting Wolf

Wait, my mistake. She didn't take Gunha on. Gunha was merely frightened off by her 'Aura' or something like that. But she did take out Mikoto before Mikoto could react.

This was in the summary of Toaru Jihanki no Fanfre in the To Aru wiki. My apologies for causing some confusion...

Yup, and my point stands that she hasn't been in a serious fight before.

Mr.Kyon · 2011-06-20, 07:20

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Originally Posted by Drifting Wolf

Lol.

Imagine this:

Spoiler for Small Scene?:

I'm not very good at writing, so they might be a little OOC or something...

@ Chaos2Frozen : In the Side Stories, when she took on Gunha, she forced Gunha to stop fighting because she was able to keep up with his speed. Not to mention she's apparently an even greater fighter than Komaba and Wataru...

That was hilarious. APPROVED!

Drifting Wolf · 2011-06-20, 07:31

^

Thank You! ^_^

+1 confidence point? Lol.

Nayrael · 2011-06-20, 07:36

It is no small thing to get approval from the Holy Crack Emperor himself.

And just so you know...

Spoiler:

Mr.Kyon · 2011-06-20, 11:34

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Originally Posted by Nayrael

It is no small thing to get approval from the Holy Crack Emperor himself.

And just so you know...

Spoiler:

You're trying to start a meme, aren't you?

Drifting Wolf · 2011-06-20, 11:44

So, 'Mr. Kyon Approves' is for all crack-based stories?

Mr.Kyon · 2011-06-20, 11:47

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Originally Posted by Drifting Wolf

So, 'Mr. Kyon Approves' is for all crack-based stories?

If they are funny, yes. I like my crack go moooood. The cheap stuff gives me da chills.

Nayrael · 2011-06-20, 11:47

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Originally Posted by Mr.Kyon

You're trying to start a meme, aren't you?

It all started with me using that pic to call Wilfriback blasphemer (for insulting Worst-sama) and then found it cool. That was the day that I decided to change my avatar and use this picture now and then as a personal meme ^_^;

Don't worry, I'll get bored of it soon enough :P

ellifeedn · 2011-06-20, 21:29

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Originally Posted by Nayrael

It all started with me using that pic to call Wilfriback blasphemer (for insulting Worst-sama) and then found it cool. That was the day that I decided to change my avatar and use this picture now and then as a personal meme ^_^;

Don't worry, I'll get bored of it soon enough :P

What do you have to say about the Pope pic that Wilfriback posted?

2011-06-20, 06:46	Link #1408
Drifting Wolf Senior Member Join Date: May 2011	Lol. Imagine this: Spoiler for Small Scene?: "What happened to you?" Touma asked curiously as he sat down beside the strongest Level 5, Accelerator. Lying on a hospital bed with his head tilted in a almost comical manner, the strongest Level 5 had an irritated expression as Misaka Worst snickered behind Touma. "Shut up! I don't see why I have to answer to - ARGH! That hurts you stupid - #$^" Accelerator bellowed as Worst punched the cast around his neck hard. "Uh huh," Worst deadpanned, a grin on her face, "You're practically helpless now, ehehehe...." her wiggling hands reached for Accelerator again. "Don't you dare!" Accelerator hissed, his eyes widening fractionally in what Touma noted actually resembled trepidation. So, even the strongest was afraid of something, huh? "Do something, you bastard!" Accelerator quickly switched tactics. "Worst, you can stop now..." Touma tried. "Ah..." Worst paused, giving Touma a plaintive look. "Come on, just a little~" she tried. "No." Touma said firmly. "Pooh. You know you're going to have to make up for this, right?" Worst said, winking at Touma suggestively as she wiggled her hips. "Horny bitch." Accelerator grumbled. "Why do you listen to him!?" "Cause he's cute, unlike some guy with a twisted neck that lost shamefully to another girl~" Worst shot back, sticking her tongue out at him. "He lost to a girl?" Touma said blankly. "Yeah, this lady from Tokiwadai," Worst said, "She was so cool. She slid across the floor faster than I could react and SNAP went this lolicon's neck! And Onee-sama's. Man, that was epic on so many levels! And I hear she's just a Dorm Supervisor!" "Wait," Touma said slowly, "you're telling me that this lady from Tokiwadai defeated HIM," he pointed at the bristling Accelerator, "and Biri Biri at the same time!?" "Yup! And that's not all, she's just a regular human like that loser Hamazura Shaige." Worst added. "That wasn't normal, I'm telling you! She makes Yomikawa look weak!" Accelerator roared indignantly, before his head slumped forward as pain rippled through his body in spades, "I demand a rematch!" "Sore loser~" "I'm not a sore loser, that bitch shall not make a fool out of -" "Bitch?" voice said coolly from the doorway, "Do my ears deceive me by playing tricks on me?" Accelerator froze. Touma stiffened. Worst dropped her arms and whimpered, hiding behind Touma as a spectre of unimaginable horror wafted into the hospital room. "Well, Accelerator?" the Dorm Supervisor repeated, her black aura shrouding her spectacles with a glint of doom. "No, I didn't say anything," Accelerator croaked almost timidly, making Touma's jaw hit the ground with a resounding thud. "My apologies, ma'am." "Good," the Dorm Supervisor said in satisfaction as she left. Touma stared. "Maybe I should get her to train me or something," he said to himself. I'm not very good at writing, so they might be a little OOC or something... @ Chaos2Frozen : In the Side Stories, when she took on Gunha, she forced Gunha to stop fighting because she was able to keep up with his speed. Not to mention she's apparently an even greater fighter than Komaba and Wataru...

2011-06-20, 07:36	Link #1415
Nayrael The Faceless One Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Varaždin, Croatia Age: 33	It is no small thing to get approval from the Holy Crack Emperor himself. And just so you know... Spoiler: __________________

2011-06-19, 10:52	Link #1403
Drifting Wolf Senior Member Join Date: May 2011	That's true enough. I do know the ranking doesn't reflect their strengths so that's why I was wondering about Gunha. Potential powers or not, Gunha has already proven to be quite a powerhouse. Though, the Dorm Supervisor certainly didn't seem to be impressed.

2011-06-19, 11:22	Link #1405
Drifting Wolf Senior Member Join Date: May 2011	Nah~ What makes the Dorm Supervisor so scary is because she's living proof that a normal person can still make Level 5's wet their pants. ^_^

2011-06-20, 06:07	Link #1406
Tsukino Kage Spectre Enraged and Suicidal Join Date: Mar 2008	So she's the Batman of the Toaruverse? Using good tactics, excellent combat skills and psychological warfare?

2011-06-20, 07:08	Link #1410
Drifting Wolf Senior Member Join Date: May 2011	I can't remember? It was the fanfare one. She snapped Mikoto's neck and took on Gunha. That was what I read, anyway. O.O I'll go check.

2011-06-20, 07:11	Link #1411
Drifting Wolf Senior Member Join Date: May 2011	Wait, my mistake. She didn't take Gunha on. Gunha was merely frightened off by her 'Aura' or something like that. But she did take out Mikoto before Mikoto could react. This was in the summary of Toaru Jihanki no Fanfre in the To Aru wiki. My apologies for causing some confusion...

2011-06-20, 07:31	Link #1414
Drifting Wolf Senior Member Join Date: May 2011	^ Thank You! ^_^ +1 confidence point? Lol.

2011-06-20, 11:44	Link #1417
Drifting Wolf Senior Member Join Date: May 2011	So, 'Mr. Kyon Approves' is for all crack-based stories?