2008-06-12, 08:49 | Link #1081 |
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Claymore is closer to seinen to shounen as far as I'm concerned. This is why I was convinced right from the beginning that there's a greater conspiracy.
With that said, Yagi-sensei should try to get things moving. I hate to see Claymore become the next Ah My Goddess.
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But i think saying Teresa was 'dissapointed' because Clare bonked that guy, it's too much. Maybe from Teresa's point of view being raped by that jerk was not really terrible 'cause she was not human anymore and she hasn't any honor to defend. Plus, that pain couldn't be compared with being turned into a monster like the MiB did to her. We're only making speculations, of course... maybe when she got demi-naked in front of the bandits she was really looking for some "fun", or maybe she was so sure that they would "run for the tall grass" that she did it to get them lost. Who knows. Quote:
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2008-06-12, 11:54 | Link #1083 | |
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2008-06-12, 12:43 | Link #1084 |
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She did, he's mentioned in Chapter 3 in the manga and that scene appears in the anime as well. But, I'm gonna admit that I'm not sure how it relates to the whole sex thing.
I'm just tossing my vote in for likely sterile. I thought earlier discussions concluded that Teresa's scars were caused by the process of becoming a Claymore, and who knows how much of her torso they covered, but if the organization did indeed fiddle with the internals, I would assume that they would do something to that to prevent unwanted pregnancies. They are trying to create warriors, after all. Regardless, that doesn't mean they don't have a libido. Sex happens, and if they're as human as they claim then it's only natural. Saying Teresa was disappointed though... I... really can't... yeah, nevermind. It all depends on whether or not Yagi decides it's important to the story for it to earn mention - either as some kind of plot device or just to give the reader a feel for what a character is like and what's important to them. All I can recall offhand is that Riful and Agatha both implied that they do it just to do it. I doubt it has anything to do with awakening, or being a villain. Actually, it has everything to do with being a villain. Clearly, only the villains have sex. I think I'm on to something. Edit: I think I'd like to clarify something, also. This doesn't mean I think they totally run around and woo people. If I were a half-demon, constantly fighting for sanity and conscience I'm pretty sure sex would be the last thing on my mind. Just my two cents. Last edited by whinnifers; 2008-06-12 at 12:50. Reason: Lolclarity |
2008-06-12, 12:53 | Link #1085 | ||
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In fact, the push for robotics is their gamble that robots will replace their old and aging workforce. They just don't have that many young children that can replace the elderly and maintain Japan's standard of living, and unlike the Western nations, Japan can not (or will not) rely on immigration. But that's getting way off topic. Quote:
We all know about the enormous appetites of ABs to feed. And ABs also seem largely inclined to instances of bloodlust as shown in their war against the DoDs where they tried to kill everything in sight until they themselves were destroyed. In fact, ABs are uncontrollable due to their impulses and whims that they themselves can not control. While some ABs like Isley, Riful, and Luciela are largely rational creatures, they no longer feel the need to keep human value norms or empathy because those are secondary to their urges. Much like vampires, ABs are slaves to their own passions. Even though Claymores are lonely, mistreated, and misunderstood, they still fulfill their duty as "supposed" protectors of humanity. Their responsibilities and obligations really leave them no time to have friends or loved ones, or even think about them. I would imagine that around the time a Claymore starts thinking about life outside of the Claymore way would be around the time when she is sent to her death by the Organization. These girls have been harshly trained since early childhood to do one thing and one thing only. Awakening releases them of those obligations and constraints. Last edited by tenken627; 2008-06-12 at 13:44. |
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2008-06-12, 14:48 | Link #1086 |
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@Cyclone: I don't think I spoiled the ending of the elfen lied anime so you should be all right . I think it is more of an issue in the manga, but the manga is quite a bit different and is drawn incredibly poorly. It is almost unbelievable that it is published. Like the first few chapters of Angel Densetsu.
I certainly think that AB's are interested in the art of love if Agatha's invitation to Cid and Riful's relationship with Duff is any indication. If only Agatha had approached Cid in her human form he might not have rejected her so badly. If Claymore did have someone with kids I would flip because there are so few manga's that treat their characters as actual humans with the ability to reproduce or to grow into adults. As Cyclone mentioned the usual manga/anime romance themes are lacking (well, not in the anime when Raki tackles Priscilla and Evangelion's his hand onto her breast. I mean seriously...) I am against Teresa being desperate and wanting to be raped/assaulted by a group of bandits. She was disgusted that this was a human she lived to protect. Although her mind changed pretty quick when she saw Clare as another human she lived to protect. Although her initial reaction to the bandits was something else and like nothing I had ever seen which really established Teresa as someone not human. I figure that even with a low birthrate, dozens and dozens of AB's running around for around a century would have produced some offspring by now. Although maybe they have and there is a reason we have not heard about them yet. Maybe they are normal youma, there are complications, maybe they can only have kids with another AB, ... any number of things could explain AB Babies if Yagi wanted to go that way. If AB's do have children then maybe the common practice is to eat them. And that is an awful thought. Sorry.
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2008-06-12, 16:37 | Link #1087 | |
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@ chibamonster - if awakened beings did had the ability to make children, isley would've had many offsprings by now, since he's the oldest claymore in the story so i don't think it's possible. and if they did... the entire claymore world would have been completely over run with awakened beings. |
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2008-06-12, 17:04 | Link #1089 | |
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if i were her, the first thing i'd do is put my mark (hicky) on him so it'll keep all the predators away >.> *looks at helen* |
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2008-06-12, 17:32 | Link #1090 | |
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2008-06-12, 18:42 | Link #1096 | |
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It seemed to me that it was more like a vow of trust and confidence, a way to make Raki feel strong enough in order to survive alone out there, rather than meaning some sort of love bond or anything like a romantic tie between them, or anything like that. And I still think she took Raki under her wing because he lost his family pretty much like she lost her own. Because she was saved by a Claymore from the Youma disguised as her elder brother, which is the very same way how she saved him. And because she was able do for him what Teresa did for her, which is a symbolic, yet beautiful way to honour and keep saying thanks to Teresa for all her love, care and efforts. |
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2008-06-12, 18:47 | Link #1097 | |
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2008-06-12, 18:53 | Link #1098 |
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It's never clear whether Clarice produces milk or not. "Breastfeeding", as well as cradling, is a common way to calm down a child. Chiefly when there is not a pacifier nearby. And the act of breastfeeding does not imply the child is being fed for real.
Besides, taking what Helen says to tease Clare when she notices Raki for the first time, no Claymore will ever be able to produce any milk at all. Of course Helen can't be taken too seriously: either she was referring to Claymores being sterile, OR she was assuming no man on the land would be interested or brave enough to fall in love with a "Silver-Eyed Witch". |
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2008-06-12, 19:09 | Link #1100 |
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Theory 1
From a biological point of view, there's a high probability that claymores (half yoma, half human hybrids) are sterile. For example mules (offspring of a male donkey and a female horse) are almost always sterile. Teresa let the guy have sex with her because she knew she wouldn't get pregnant. But it doesn't mean claymores don't have sexual urges. On the other hand ABs can assume a completely human form (presumably with reproductive organs intact) and thus may be able to reproduce. I think if female ABs have the ability to get pregnant, they should keep their human form during their pregnancy. This prerequisite alone may be the reason why we didn't see any offspring yet. And if they can get pregnant, the father may be either a male AB or a male human. Theory 2 Claymores may have children but it's strictly forbidden by the organization. (A pregnant warrior is no use to them.) Getting pregnant is optional for them after an intercourse. (the same way they get drunk) Teresa let the guy have sex with her because she knew she could prevent getting pregnant. ABs can also have children but we have seen only 2 couples until now. Riful doesn't want to have Dauf's children (she would prefer Isley or Rigardo), and Isley and Priscilla already had one. (the girl on Raki's shoulder) Theory 3 Neither female ABs nor female claymores can get pregnant, their immunity systems kill the embryo as a defense mechanism. The girl on Raki's shoulder is offspring of Isley and a female human. Her mother died after giving birth due to child's yoma blood complications and Isley said he had no interest in the child, so Raki adopted her. |
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