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Oh, come on now... don't tell me your taking it back after we finally got to agree at some points for the very first time ever . Trust me, don't get offended on this since I am not aiming at anyone but if you consider there situations, Jean's case was more of a reliable fellow warrior whom Clare had saved for her own good to fight Dauf while Raki's role was more of a mentor for Clare whom she saved out of her pure kindness(pity).
Maybe I should leave this topic here since I don't want to get any complaints about defending my fav char... I think it's the first time I ever poked my nose in to anything related to her.
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No no, it's not that I'm taking it back or anything; I still hold it, even though Gooral disagrees....it's just that, in a sense, that position just feels so hollow.
It's true, or at least has alot of sense behind it (the overlapping between Jean and Raki that is), but it just feels so...superficial; like, couldn't do Yagi do something more original? You have to admit: similarities aside, it would feel kind of cheap if that's what it all come down too - that Jean was a 'what-if', if Raki was a Claymore.
Ambiguity as I said, helps and hurts - because we have no choice but to rely on the very minimal presence of Jean in the story but it also lets us use alot of our own imagination to guess her mysteries.
Their's no reason also to drop this subject.....really, it's not like any topic is actually going on at the moment.
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Almost lost you there... can't grasp of what were we talking about, but I guess it's true..
As for Cynthia and Priscilla, I disagree. Cynthia was a well-mannered and optimistic warrior while Priscilla was well-mannered to but also to obssessive in taking the org's tasks as if they where the "Justice". Also note that not always the troublemakers are the ones to be sacrificed, but the intention of sending 24 Claymores to Pieta was to buy some time for Alicia & Beth's completion.
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Look, let me make it plain as possible - do you
need a reason to be a certain type of person? To be a good person, or a bad person?
Some people are just the way they are, and often, it works very good for them - because they just came out said-person. We know Dietrich's honor and loyalty and discovered why when she told us her sad-past.....we got no such thing for Jean - undoubtedly, like all warriors as a whole, she has her own sad past as well, but we
didn't hear about it
So in a way, their's no reason not to assume that her honor, her personality....who she is, maybe isn't because of something that happened to her, but just because that's how she's always been -- she's a good honorable person, just because. There is nothing wrong with that whatsoever.
If you want another comparison, try Ophelia and Roxanne -- Ophelia as far as we can tell, before her own tragedy, was a good person who dearly loved her brother....when Priscilla went own her rampage and ate him, she lost her mind (Post-traumatic stress disorder?); she became the psychotic we love/hate who just can't wait to kill Awakened Beings...
But she turned out that way only because of her tragedy - had that never happened to her, it's very possible that, not only would she remain a normal person, their's a good likelihood she may not even have been a warrior at all.
Roxanne on the other hand, has shown no evidence whatsoever that their is a reason for how she is and, looking around, that seems to be how people prefer....she's evil just because -- she has no trauma, no horror, no skeletons in her closets....she's just plain crazy because that's just how it is.
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As for Cynthia and Priscilla, you aren't getting my comparisons -- point blank, all 4 girls are very positive women who, despite their traumas, have very strong strength-of-heart and are all around good justice-seeking people (hence, my superhero joke
) -- Cynthia was a well-mannered girl like you said, but you have to realize how special that is: She, like all the others, fights for what the Organization appparently stands for -- she isn't a generic cold unsocial warrior, hurt by her past and the stigma normal humans put on her.....she takes it in stride and remains the optimistic bubble of joy that she apparently always was -- when travelling with Claire and Yuma, she notably says that the mission was a success, not because all the Yoma were killed, but because no human was hurt which surprises Claire.
It surprises Claire because most warriors just don't care enough for humans to think about it like that.....it's something Claire quietly muses why she was sent to Pieta in the first place.
As for Priscilla, you're kind of twisting her -- her "obsession" stemmed merely from her youth and inexperience; her beliefs really aren't, as a whole, all that different from the other women I've mentioned; she merely lacked experience and self-confidence....as I mentioned, once she grew up and matured in body, mind and beliefs...she would have realized that her defending of humanity conflicts with the Organization - eventually, it would have come to a point where her interests are not
there interests.
Priscilla is not Dietrich - Dietrich was the one who seemed to love the Org above all (until we found otherwise, so the point is sort of mute anyway); Priscilla's obsession was with humanity, justice, and what is right - her black/white viewpoint stemmed from her own inexperience and belief that the Org had the same notions as her....how very wrong she was -- if anything, that's something else they capitalized on when they sent her to kill Teresa. When Teresa called her off on her flawed mentality, Priscilla went crazy - not so much she was mocking the Organization or anything, but because this "human-killing traitor" (which technically isn't wrong, but it's not like she knew the whole story either) seemingly was mocking her and her own beliefs about justice....that's the thing - beyond making fun of her and her youth (which, admit it....when you were a kid, you didn't like people making fun of you for it), this human-killing monster was mocking her adherence toward justice, as if this traitor knew better then her. Priscilla strongly defended the Organization, not so much because she loved them like Dietrich seemingly did....but because she though their beliefs overlapped with hers - again, she was gravely mistaken.
I mean really....you honestly think she would still support the Organization once she knew that
they were the ones making Yoma? The ancient seemingly-invincible (because at the time, that's what they were before Yagi made it so now humans can kill them) enemy of all mankind? The thing that killed her father, took his form, and wiped out her family?
No, Pieta was the Organization's garbage disposal -- yes, Alicia and Beth had alot to do with it, but it was also primarily an opportunity to get rid of any and all undesirables....whether they knew too much, been around for too long, or for any innane reason they could think of; they were to sent to that death-trap...that's why even people like Cynthia get sent over - you think they care that she's apparently doing a "good job" and loves "protecting" people. Pff, as if they care.
My theory is that Miata was also intended to be their next disposal -- once they discovered Clarice knew about the Ghosts, she plainly knew too much and sent her off to be killed....it was quite a surprise when she didn't die and Miata actually became useful -- I remember getting into a big conversation with Ryus about them sending her off to Rabona, which was another part of their hidden-schemes - in short, they were "treasure" if they survived and succeeded and would become useful to them, "trash" if they died and no real loss on their part....a win-win situation....except if "ghosts from the north" so happened to show up and they allied with them, which is what basically happened
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Roflmao, great, you thought I was a female too?......
why? Is things like emocons or writing "awww"
that much of a difference?
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